FadingLight says... #2
Oloro_Magic i just dont like snapcaster mage in the match up if im being honest
August 10, 2017 5:27 p.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #3
Snapcaster Mage is a great card but be wary as a Rest in Peace won't stop them from playing it as a beater, it stops them from recurring discard effects and things of the like so that is where Rest in Peace is valuable. Besides you want Rest in Peace for Reanimator, Dredge, and Vengevine matchups so it's a great card to have.
August 10, 2017 5:31 p.m.
FadingLight says... #4
Oloro_Magic Okay thank you, i'll put cards i might put in the sideboard in the maybeboard for now
August 10, 2017 5:35 p.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #5
I think you immediately want Blood Moon in the side, tron and non-basic heavy decks are very popular nowadays. (2-3 copies to be exact)
August 10, 2017 5:37 p.m.
FadingLight says... #6
Oloro_Magic alright besides Angel of Jubilation my sideboard is ready
August 10, 2017 5:43 p.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #7
I honestly wouldn't play Torpor Orb, it hurts you too much, I would play another Blood Moon or Card: stony silence
August 10, 2017 5:48 p.m.
FadingLight says... #8
Oloro_Magic Did you playtest this further, I did. But not at full strength. I just tested key cards
August 13, 2017 3:47 p.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #9
Got to test against affinity went 0-2, though I mainly chalk it up to the fact I didn't draw artifact hate, with hindsight I would have sided more aggressively. Wednesday I should be able to test it against a whole bunch of decks including Seismic Swans (its a really weird combo deck), so that night I'll leave a full report, but yeah only against affinity and the loss was my fault as I was an idiot sideboarding.
August 13, 2017 3:53 p.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #11
Okay so second round of testing is officially complete and well, it didn't quite go as planned, sometimes it was my fault others it was pure bad luck, and sometimes it was just a bad matchup. Needless to say here is my full report.
- vs. Affinity 2-1
Game 1 affinity had to mull to 4 and never really did recover from that as affinity is one of those decks that just doesn't mulligan well. Game two an Etched Champion was able to beat down enough that a Blinkmoth Nexus equipped with a Cranial Plating could swing in for lethal. Game 3 was kinda crazy and one of the better games of magic I have probably ever played. I was on the play and dropped Champion of the Parish on turn one, a good start, affinity responded by playing Darksteel Citadel, Ornithopter, Memnite, Mox Opal, and Steel Overseer, with Arcbound Ravager in hand as I learned for turn two (literally an insane hand for affinity). I was ready to concede when I topdecked Card: stony silence turning off all of affinity's field and they were never able to remove the enchantment, I beat down until they were dead as they didn't draw into non-artifacts.
- vs. U/R Gifts Storm 0-2
Not much to say here, storm is good, in both games I was a turn away from swinging for lethal when storm combo'd off and killed me with Grapeshot, in hindsight I should have probably mulled until I got to removal to deal with Baral, Chief of Compliance, and then delayed them but I don't think it would have made too much of a difference, the deck is certainly fast enough to beat Storm before it combos off I just didn't get that opportunity.
- vs. U/W Control 0-2
Game one I lost to well timed removal, I played well enough around the counters but the removal was overwhelming and eventually became too much for me to recover. Game two opponent drew every Celestial Colonnade and beat down with those while also seeming to draw into every counter and removal spell (I had Cavern of Souls which helped but that didn't stop the removal), I didn't stand a chance as they just countered Eerie Interlude.
- vs. Burn 1-2
These games were close, game one we both got each other down pretty low, opponent topdecked a burn spell and was able to also drop Monastery Swiftspear I lost to the prowess. Game two I won thanks to the most unlikely source Blood Moon. I know it's weird, I had sided a couple in to turn off Lightning Helix and Boros Charm late game for my opponent, it ended up with them having only uncastables in hand and I won on Champion of the Parish beats, who would have thought Blood Moon would do so much work. Game three again was close I lost to a Shrine of Burning Rage having not expected to see it which was an oversight on my part.
- vs. G/R Vengevine 0-2
I was skeptical about the Vengevine deck, I thought maybe it was just a fluke, I was wrong the deck was insanely good, both games they dropped two Vengevine turn 2 and I had no answer, it wasn't close this deck was way too fast as I was always on the defensive and the pure volume of creatures it played meant my removal was useless, I have to test more against this deck with my other decks and yours and try to figure out a consistent way to beat it.
- vs. 42 Land Swan Hunt 0-2
Swan Hunt had near perfect hands both games, game one they were able to combo off turn 4 (the earliest they can) and won on the spot (I got them to 9 life this game so the deck did well just can't beat the combo once it is assembled). Game 2 was a bit upsetting, I had them at 1 life when they Treasure Hunted into a Swans of Bryn Argoll and combo'd off the next turn. This matchup is easily winnable but opponent just had a great hand and better luck.
Other Comments
The mana base still feels a bit clunky which hurt me in some games, I would cut the filter lands as good as they are as they can't be played turn one really and add some more plains as that would make Blood Moon less painful.
I also found myself mulliganing a lot, I think the deck needs another solid two-drop I'll look around on gatherer and see what I can find and then test it out. Overall the deck itself did fine I just punted a few too many times and got some bad hands.
August 17, 2017 11:15 a.m.
FadingLight says... #12
Oloro_Magic Sorry friend, life kinda kicked me around for a bit. Anything new for this deck? Did you find another two drop? I fell in love with Glory-Bound Initiate
August 28, 2017 12:32 a.m.
FadingLight says... #13
as well as Harsh Mentor, Hanweir Militia Captain Flip, and God-Favored General
August 28, 2017 12:34 a.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #14
The two-drop I was leaning towards was Selfless Spirit but I am far from making a conclusion. Selfless Spirit is a relavant beater, has evasion, and can save the team, so that is what I was thinking.
August 28, 2017 7:44 a.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #16
Yeah that or Avacyn as they are high on the curve. I would lean more towards Avacyn seeing how this is an agro list and Bladehold is still relevant then.
September 2, 2017 3:27 p.m.
FadingLight says... #17
Oloro_Magic What's this "casual competitive" bar im seeing?
September 13, 2017 1:26 a.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #18
Well I think it is still a bit broken but essentially the point of the bar is that it rates the deck on a scale determining its competitiveness. With that said, the bar is still new and isn't perfect as it weighs certain cards much to heavily (fetches and shocks).
September 13, 2017 7:36 a.m.
FadingLight says... #19
Oloro_Magic Hey friend, sorry to bother you again. Do you mind looking at this deck again?
June 7, 2018 1:19 a.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #20
Sure, I have work to do so it may take a little while to get back but I'm more than happy to.
June 7, 2018 6:18 p.m.
FadingLight says... #21
Oloro_Magic Thanks! I appreciate it. I'm having trouble with the cards in my maybe board and main board :D
June 7, 2018 11:31 p.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #22
Hey! Just wanted to let you know I havent forgot about this, I've been swamped at work (people out sick and I have to cover shifts) so I havent had much time, sorry for the wait I'll have a chance hopefully late tonight or tomorrow afternoon.
June 10, 2018 11:12 a.m.
FadingLight says... #23
Oloro_Magic it’s fine! I really hope things get easier for you!
Oloro_Magic says... #1
Honestly the best way to side against shadow is to have removal which you do, Shadow is fast, you have to outpace it. Additionally you could remove the first shadow and then Surgical Extraction but that is a little painful. Rest in Peace is a nice card for the Grixis matchup but it doesn't win you the game just to make that clear.
August 10, 2017 5:23 p.m.