Bosh, Community Golem (Tapped Out Builds the Deck)
Commander / EDH*
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HorrorAvengers says... #2
I think koth warrents staying, as even with only 1 or 2 mountains out he's very much worth it. Draco can go though.
July 17, 2014 7:28 p.m.
falcondiesel says... #3
A big fattie in the deck is okay if you use it as Tomahawk-Bang suggests, but you're going to want some kind of artifact based recursion in order to put this back together if it falls apart. I suggest Scarecrone or something similar for that purpose. There are so many other great targets for Bosh to sac, though, you have to remember that even if you get Draco out, he's just a 9/9 flyer, while there may be heavier hitters in the artifact creature category for less CMC, Collossus of Akros for instance. The Collossus isn't even legendary, you can cast it cheap due to affinity, make copies of it if you so please, spend the mana you saved from affinity on that monstrosity cost, and sac a 20/20 to Bosh. or two 20/20s if you went Prototype Portal as HorrorAvengers threw out there. Heck, with a Mirror Gallery you could copy and paste multiple Bosh's and sac them to each other. Anyway, next.
July 17, 2014 11 p.m.
falcondiesel Bosh deals damage with CMC, which is the only reason for Draco to stick around, but a pretty damaging reason if you can recur and re-fling him enough times. Otherwise, with only one basic land type, the big guy is hard to keep around, but if there can be some consistency to playing and throwing him in the same turn he might be worthwhile.
July 17, 2014 11:08 p.m.
falcondiesel says... #5
Then focus on getting him in your hand and getting affinity guys out as fast as possible. Or dump him in the grave and Scarecrone . Might need him more than once. I still recommend hitting with power as well with Electropotence . Fling for days.
July 17, 2014 11:23 p.m.
HorrorAvengers says... #6
I doubt it but just to double check, you can't sac draco to bosh's effect before you have to pay the upkeep trigger, don't you? As fa as I know you don't get priority until after it resolves, but if I'm wrong, it'd be worth keeping. Otherwise... eh, it seems like it's too expensive.
Also, have the on death cantrip artifacts been considered? Stuff like Ichor Wellspring ?
July 18, 2014 12:02 a.m.
I believe you could sac Draco in response to the upkeep trigger since you've already untapped, although there's always cheating him in and having the spare mana to throw him same turn.
July 18, 2014 12:13 a.m.
I agree with all cuts except maybe Koth, depends on how many mountains are added I would say. Also the 0cmc creatures Memnite and Ornithopter I don't think they are good enough for a commander deck, you can probably do some cool tricks with them but on their own I wouldn't say they are good enough to stay.
July 18, 2014 3:14 a.m.
HorrorAvengers says... #9
Agreed with leyden, the 0cmcs just... Without the tinker-on-legs-commander, they're just overly mediocre
July 18, 2014 3:36 a.m.
I feel like there's to many beefy things, and not enough lands...
July 18, 2014 1:47 p.m.
Smith_and_Tonic says... #12
NoahsArk that's part of what the community should be looking to fix. I know the lands and nonlands are unbalanced but people continued to suggest only nonland cards and ones that were high CMC. The final deck will have 36 land and 63 nonland cards in the board.
July 19, 2014 11:24 a.m.
TheFanatic says... #13
Grim Lavamancer seems weak in EDH, and is a nonbo with your graveyard interactions. Ichor Wellspring seems like a better choice, as it has more synergy with the deck. Memnite and Ornithopter really don't do anything here and should be cut for basic lands.
July 19, 2014 11:34 a.m.
HorrorAvengers says... #14
cards that should be cut; Ornithopter, Memnite, the deck has 2 thran dynamos so cut 1, Paradise mantle seems eh, springleaf drum is better but even that is underwhelming, Bludgeon Brawl, and shrapnel blast
Cards I would personally cut; Crucible of Worlds. Wasteland and stripmine are fine I guess for my liking, but when I start looping them it's not fun to play with or against, even if it is effective. But that's my opinion.
July 19, 2014 2:04 p.m.
HorrorAvengers says... #15
Also, I recognize it is a paper deck, but if you already have it or are willing to drop that much money on a card, Mishra's Workshop is kiiiiiinda bustedasallhell.
July 19, 2014 2:07 p.m.
HorrorAvengers says... #16
nvm, it's already in there, I thought that was a factory. My bad
July 19, 2014 2:08 p.m.
Countertop says... #17
Goblin Charbelcher is nice in decks that are meant to utilize it, but in edh its kinda just a cute little thing that deals perhaps 5 damage at most? I would drop it in favor of more land (23 is waaaaaay little)
Myr Galvanizer is also nice, but you dont actually run that many myrs, and untapping them doesn't accomplish that much imo
Mirrorworks sounds really nice in theory, but its more of a win-more card, and I've rarely used it's effect while it was in my deck
you have 2 Thran Dynamo s
Grim Lavamancer seems kind of weak in a deck where everything is bigger than x/2, it works as a finisher in modern where everyone has 20 life, but chipping away at 40 life is a lot tougher
while Crucible of Worlds is nice, it draws a lot of hate, and tends to get destroyed really quickly, as everyone assumes you're going to Strip Mine everything
i would drop all of those for either basics, or utility lands that I cannot think of off the top of my head...
but you should have at least 36 lands imo? Anyone else want to comment on the amount of lands they think there should be?
July 19, 2014 2:45 p.m.
bcornett24 says... #18
I agree Grim Lavamancer definitely needs cut, as you don't want to use the ability with your graveyard.
Myr Galvanizer also needs cut as he does nothing for your deck.
July 19, 2014 3:27 p.m.
Hey, thanks for the idea, I think I will do the same thing with my Sen Triplets Deck. Also: Add Urabrask the Hidden, so you will always be at least a turn ahead.
July 20, 2014 7:16 p.m.
Tomahawk-Bang says... #21
I agree on the land count of at least 36. With a general that costs 8 mana to cast I'd even consider to up the land count to 38 or 39, depending on the amount of ramp you will have in the deck.
July 29, 2014 5:44 p.m.
Isnt it illegal to have any red cards as bosh is colorless?
July 31, 2014 12:12 p.m.
HorrorAvengers says... #23
No, Bosh's red mana symbol in his text box adds red to his color identity.
July 31, 2014 12:25 p.m.
Smith_and_Tonic says... #24
@magiceli The color identity of a card is any color mana symbol found in its text box or cost (this does not count reminder text). Since Bosh, Iron Golem is colorless with an ability that takes red mana to activate, his color identity is Red.
July 31, 2014 3:10 p.m.
Traveler247 says... #25
I'm going to recommend that you clear the comments section and go into a new phase of building the deck. You've got a solid list of cards, but some need to be cut and replaced with lands. For now, I'd just add however many mountains you need to get there and put the deck temporarily over 99 cards (whether it says 99 or not you still need to cut), then see if you can run a poll over which cards should be cut. Then cut the top x cards where x is the number of cards you need to cut.
Smith_and_Tonic says... #1
Alright, I see people agree on the Gauntlet of Might cut! My wallet thanks you very much! I see that Arcbound Lancer has come up twice, is it good enough for a 7 mana 4/4 first strike with modular or are their better cards out there? Or should it be just cut all together?
Tomahawk-Bang also brought up Draco and Koth of the Hammer . What are other user's thoughts on these two cards?
July 17, 2014 2:25 p.m.