Given that you want to be doing things like hardcasting thragtusk, I would suggest 1st of all, drop the draining whelks for another 2 lands. the whelks are hard to cast, and with 22 lands it is not uncommon to miss a third land drop. I would also look to switch out Viridian Emissary for either Rampant Growth or Elvish Mystic, as they don't do much and the others are much more reliable ramp cards. other than those couple things, this seems pretty solid for a u/g mimic vat deck.

First of all, thank you for your comment. :)

I can play my thragtusk often in the 4th turn, because of the viridian emissary. And i can sacrifice it early for bounce or counter, getting a new land. Combining Scry from the temple, card draw from the coiling oracle and the fetch ability of viridian I havent had land problems so far. And compared to the Rampant Growth viridian emissary has a body. But I think adding a playset of Elvish Mystic is a good idea. The elves will add some tempo! Ill try it out as soon as possible! Thanks :)

Up to now the draining whelk has very often proven himself useful. After all its the only way to deal damage, besides thragtusk. And in a Vat its fun as well.

Maybe you have some suggestions on the sideboard? That would be great, because Ive got no idea what could be useful. Or what I should fear!

Thank you for taking a look lordmalphas!

Sorry, i mean i can play draining whelk in the 4th turn, thragtusk as well but yeah, thats nothing suprising..

I would run Sakura-Tribe Elder over viridian emmisiary. I would also run 23 lands, because you need to get your first 5 land drops and preferably the later ones as well, because you will be activating mimic vat often.

I would advise against running creatures that don't have etb or ltb effects. Running value creatures that can interact with mimic vat us the way to go for this deck. If you want more ramp Sylvan Ranger is better.

I also do not think mirror mockery does enough to justify an inclusion. You should run either another creature or even better some creature based removal because as it is now you are prone to being out raced by aggro because you cannot remove their creatures.

My friend runs a green black version of this deck which I think fits better because black let's you run Fleshbag Marauder Shriekmaw Sidisi, Undead Vizier. Black also has some board wipes which help a LOT. Crux of Fate or Damnation

Thank you for taking your time on my deck ojmandias!

I think you are completely right about black, especially about the marauder. But for my first deck I wanted to use the colours I like most.

Because of the board wipe and aggro; up to now I haven't faced any situations where bouncing wasn't enough, but destroying is of course very useful. Maybe it's just my friends but swarming the battlefield happens most of the times with creatures having low toughness. (Profaner of the Dead), the others are bounced by Sidisi's Faithful + multiple Mirror Mockery. For example: With Coiling Oracle I can play the profaner in the 3 turn, exploiting Faithfull, most of the times. On turn 4 I add a Mirror Mockery for annoyance. (And run Simic Charm against removal or to bounce everything up to toughness 5)

Concerning your other suggestions: I don't get the point in switching viridian for Sakura-Tribe Elder. Because I can't sacrifice him for my exploit creatures. I know, in a Vat he can put a lot of lands on the battlefield, but as soon as Ive got my Vat out I want something big imprinted, or something for counter/bounce.

I think the Sylvan Ranger is useful But I thing putting a land on the battlefield is much better than in hand. For increasing tempo. Even if it's an etb, I wouldn't imprint the Sylvan. If he could put a land tapped on the battlefield by entering the battlefield, Sylvan Ranger would be my card of choice, but he can't.I did put another land in!

But I'm new to magic. If you explain why he's more useful Ill maybe understand and can improve my deck and my understanding for magic!

Thanks a lot for taking your time! Im happy you commented!

The last thing: Elvish Mystic doesn't work that good. I dont need more than one green mana most of the time. I can't play him in turn one because more than half of my green lands enter the battlefield tapped, (and buying new lands are expensive) and he has no value in entering or leaving the battlefield. As well sacrificing him hurts... I dont put him in the deck. Anyway, thanks for your input lordmalphas!! It's nice having people coming up with new ideas!

So sakura tribe elder is a lot better than sylvan ranger for a mimic vat deck. But sylvan ranger is good for when you don't have lands to play. Say turn 3 you have 2 lands played and none in your hand. What would be a better play then, sylvan or sakura? Sylvan will let you immediately use the one land you pulled while sakura will make you wait another turn, so in the end you will be a turn behind. However for mimic vat you can imprint sakura tribe elder and get an extra land every turn that doesn't count towards your land drop so in the late game if you are searching for a specific card you can thin your deck out without having a hand full of lands you are stuck unable to play. You can also choose not to get a land of you don't want to shuffle your library but you need a blocker. But that rarely happens.

in addition, sakura is able to fetch you out a land without needing to block or attack+be blocked. (that said, it is usually popular to block with elder then sacrifice it before combat damage is dealt), and viridian will not let you do that. ranger though is worse than elder if you already have a land in hand or have used a land drop for turn.

Thanks a lot, both of you lordmalphas, ojmandias! I decided to take in the elder, two reasons: First, I like the snake art work, second you are right, it fits better than my viridians. What do you think about mulldrifter? I'm thinking about adding two copies. For draw, as well he fits my Mirror Mockery/Mimic Vat

If you have any ideas to make the deck better (without making it more expensive) feel free to tell me (:

neat deck. With Timbermare in the vat, you can deny them the combat phase every turn as long as you create a copy of it on their turn.+1

Thats the idea (;Thank you, if you like it: i am happy about every upvote!

i am iffy about Essence Flux. It is no good turn 1, and it cant bounce back the tokens. I would put something more reactive, like Vapor Snag, or more ramp, like Elvish Mystic / Birds of Paradise

Eldritch Evolution, though flavorful, isn't fully effective i think. For instance, if you cast it on a Sidisi's faithful, you can only fetch a Drift of Phantasms, which you will prefer in your hand to transmute it....----Just had an epiphany: Trophy Mage. Fetches your mimic vat and can be evolved efficiently.

Nevermind the rest of what i was about to say.

Thats true thanks! I change it tomorrow (:

sorry, i will continue. I thought that could amend Eldritch Evolution, but i am not sure

For example: your t1 sidisi's faithfull can be evolved to a trophy mage, which is good, since it creates a chain that fetches your vat, and into an oracle, which could be useful to ramp, but is a bit of a wager.

your t2 oracle can evolve into a venser, a timbermare or a mystic snake, but since EE is at sorcery speed, your snake's counter would be wasted, you wouldnt be able to tap their creatures at instant speed with the mare, and venser's flash goes to waste aswell.

your t3 newly acquired trophy mage (replace the phantasms for her) could evolve into a thrugtusk or a mulldrifter just fine. no problem here.

t4 creatures onwards can do whatever they want.

What i am trying to say is that although it works, there will be occassions where you wont get the maximum out of a card, or you will find some restriction to your strategy.

Just my feelings.

Essence flux comes handy often, hink about the combo with Mulldrifter! 4 cards and the creature for 4mana!! I think thats really strong. As well it protects from exile removal! And if a mystic is on the field i can counter for 1 mana

Thats true, i judt realy like the card :D and think about the sideboard cards. I have 4 3drops that i have access to

I check your suggestions tomorrow, i don't play that often, judt occasionaly with friends, so i need some time to playtest the ideas

didn't look at sideboard, lol.

ok, hope it helps.

kept playtesting. essence flux and eldritch evolution performed well.

So the change i think is definitvely a must-have is the Trophy Mage au lieu de Drift of Phantasms. maybe keep some on the SB in case you are facing a deck with flyers. But other than that, the mage is better.

on a side note, Echoing Truth and Rapid Hybridization are good cheap blue removal spells, the latter maintaining the whole "evolution" flavor of the deck.

It's funny how our decks contain very similar cards but play out so differently. I would be glad if you took a look at my deck: Eternal Displaceness (finite combo flicker).

thanks for your comment, i checked it out, nice deck (:

Nice idea. I'd consider Sakura-Tribe Elder for ramp and a nice imprint, Damping Matrix, Bottle Gnomes, Cloudstone Curio, Culling Scales, Filigree Familiar and Lifecrafter's Bestiary all deserve a look. I'd feel a lot more confident with some stallier smaller creatures mainboard, but your meta might support this. I'd honestly move Obstinate Baloth maindeck or perhaps run some manadorks. Good luck!

Thanks for the ideas, i like the the Bottle Gnomes!

I used to play Sakura-Tribe Elder, right now i use elvish mystic instead, he has no synergy with the vat, but he is great for ramp.

By the way, i should update the deck !