bradyofportdetroit says... #2
If you want them to discard I would suggest Sire Of Insanity great card to stop control and ESPER&BANT
June 5, 2013 1:16 p.m.
I have a Chandra Ablaze and right now I have her in this deck because I haven't acquired Liliana Vess yet but I was definitely thinking of keeping her in here.
I also have Browbeat and other red cards that may deal direct damage.
June 5, 2013 1:18 p.m.
MadCheddah says... #4
my advice is not to use Browbeat in any deck, but feel free to learn why yourself...
The Rack mby? and if you use Liliana's Caress (im personaly not a big fan) i would add 1 Burning Inquiry as a finisher....
June 5, 2013 2:34 p.m.
I really want to add Burning Inquiry somewhere but I don't know where. How about two Browbeat and two Burning Inquiry ?
I was thinking of getting rid of Shrieking Affliction for The Rack since they cost the same and The Rack may still end up doing damage when my opponent has more than one card in his hand.
June 5, 2013 2:40 p.m.
brycecream says... #6
Hellfire Mongrel maybe. Bloodchief Ascension if you can add in more early game burn (Bump in the Night could work really well here). Hymn to Tourach for early random discard. Dream Salvage , because nothing is better than drawing all the cards you just made someone discard. lastly and imo pretty darn important here would be Sangromancer , to make you last long enough to win, plus the added rudeness when you empty someone's hand.
I have a similar deck in grixis colors, Bolas' Caress, which ya might take a peek at.
June 5, 2013 3:49 p.m.
brycecream says... #7
also consider Spike Jester for early advantage. especially if you decide to put in the Bloodchief Ascension
June 5, 2013 3:52 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #8
Burning Inquiry is good but don't run more than one, it's a dead card most games that just fs up your hand composition. When you want it tutor for it with Liliana once you get a couple copies.
The argument against Browbeat (and most cards that let your opponents choose) is it doesn't get you the response you want at the time. The nice thing is, if Shrieking Affliction and your discard enchantments are doing their job they'll be at a low enough life total that paying 5 wont be an option. Or you could always make them draw three to force a discard.
You'll also need something like Slagstorm to deal with the things that do hit the board although you have a fair number of blockers and Nyxathid gets big fast.
June 5, 2013 4:18 p.m.
Okay, as of now I substituted in three Sangromancer , but I still need to try to make room for two or three Bloodchief Ascension and three Spike Jester but I am not sure which cards I should remove. There's also the issue of having two Liliana Vess in here as well. Thanks for all the help guys!
June 6, 2013 1:16 a.m.
Actually I already have two Liliana Vess in here, so I would like to try and get Dream Salvage in here along with the other cards I mentioned, which should I replace?
June 6, 2013 1:19 a.m.
I'm taking Megrim instead because Liliana's Caress doesn't work with Chandra's Spitfire
July 8, 2013 4:15 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #13
What do you think of Surgical Extraction and Shrieking Affliction ? I know you're running The Rack already...
July 8, 2013 4:28 p.m.
Both of those look great, I like cards like Surgical Extraction where I can exile cards from my opponent's library, and I'm thinking of adding in a few Lavaborn Muse instead of Shrieking Affliction but if that's no good I'll definitely give Shrieking Affliction a try.
July 8, 2013 4:47 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #15
Lavaborn Muse is nice. Have you seen Hellfire Mongrel ? You don't want too much redundancy but it does serve its purpose here.
July 8, 2013 4:52 p.m.
I believe I do have one of those, I'll add it in and see how it plays out.
July 9, 2013 12:23 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #17
Can you have a look at my deck Robust Harvest and tell me what you think? It's an aggressive suicide black style burn/discard deck. It's having identity issues.
July 9, 2013 12:54 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #18
As far as going standard...what are your thoughts on Shimian Specter
?
July 9, 2013 1:37 p.m.
I think it's a great card. The effect happens whenever combat damage is dealt and it is a flying creature so that will hopefully happen often. The big downside to it is that it's only a 2/2 for 4 mana and I would probably switch it with Guul Draz Specter . In a Modern deck I believe it's more suitable on the sideboard so you can use it if you know you're going up against someone who loves to use cards to draw more cards or play more lands, or throw artifacts and enchantments on the field.
July 9, 2013 1:56 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #20
Yeah, stuff like Lingering Souls create a problem for it but the effect is so strong that I want to make it work somehow. Pretty much every playable removal kills it but...since when is dies to removal a viable argument
July 9, 2013 2:05 p.m.
And if you run 4 of them you can keep them in play especially if you manage to get more than one on the battlefield along with strong creatures so they'll block those instead so they don't take heavier damage. It works well the other way around also.
July 9, 2013 2:14 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #22
It's true, especially with something like Lord of the Void cutting hunks off the top of their library. I had contemplated monoblack Heartless using those cards, Bloodgift Demon and other things to tear the opponent apart. I've never consciously built mono colored deck before...could be intriguing. Discard and exile.
July 9, 2013 5:51 p.m.
For a modern deck, you really don't want your curve to go above 4 unless it provides instant advantage. Want me to show you what I would do to tweak it?
July 15, 2013 3:49 p.m.
What is the curve you're talking about? And sure, I'm still making tweaks.
July 15, 2013 3:52 p.m.
Mana curve. You don't want anything above 4 mana.
So you want RB discard?
MindAblaze says... #1
Chandra Ablaze is, from my experience playing this style of deck, a bomb. She throws extra Blightning s and irrelevant creatures at your opponent's head, and her -2 can win you the game with Megrim or Lili's Caress.
Now she may not be as strong for you since you're not running any direct damage spells other than Blightning but it's something to consider. What do you think?
Also, have you tried/thought about Browbeat ? There's almost no time where they make a decision that's bad for you. By the time you're out of cards (or..tricky...they're out of cards) them paying five life isn't such a bad thing.
June 5, 2013 1:09 p.m.