B/W Warriors (BFZ)

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L0RD0fP3NGU1N5 says... #1

I wouldn't run Obelisk of Urd, it's pretty much a win-more and it's really expensive; having to tap out for a turn just to play it and not do any damage is worse than just hitting their face. I would take them out and put the other Sorin into mainboard, as well as add Athreos, God of Passage to the mainboard, or at least sideboard; but he needs to be in your 75 definitely. His ability to let you keep your guys after a boardwipe or have them take a huge deficit to their life total is amazing and you might even be able to get an attack or two out of him. Return to the Ranks would also be a good sideboard card against the more controlling matchups where the game is stalling and you need that last bit of umph to push for the kill.

January 31, 2015 12:52 a.m.

PhantomWang says... #2

Thanks for the advice. I have a friend who has Athreos so maybe I'll trade him for it lol. I see your point with Obelisk of Urd, but isn't giving every warrior +2/+2 worth it? I didn't see this card as a necessary game winner, so much as something to make the deck relevant late game against a deck with heavy hitters. Also how many Athreos should I run? 2?

January 31, 2015 1:17 a.m.

L0RD0fP3NGU1N5 says... #3

I wouldn't run more than 2 Athreos, and I might even consider him for the sideboard specifically against the Abzan or Sultai decks that want the turn 3 Drown in Sorrow against you. Obelisk of Urd may give everything +2/+2 but it leaves you (almost completely) vulnerable for a turn; which, in standard, is a risk you should likely not take. An example I can think of off hand that applies to your deck specifically would be having 2 Bloodsoaked Champions, a Chief of the Edge, and 3 lands; You have Obelisk in hand, and they are at say, 15 life. You have the option to swing for 9 now, or convoke all of your creatures and tap all of your lands to play Obelisk now, which makes your damage total 14. You lose a turn completely and you take a turn longer to kill them if you choose to play the Obelisk. Of course, there are some situations where Obelisk MAY be better, but it's mainly a win-more card at that point. I would much rather run Return to the Ranks as your mid-late game recovery card.

January 31, 2015 2:15 a.m.

L0RD0fP3NGU1N5 says... #4

Also, I forgot to mention, if you're scared of stalling out against monsters or midrange decks, you need to kill them faster. The whole point of aggro is to kill them before they can go online. If they get to turn 6 and you're staring down against a Courser, Siege Rhino, and Sylvan Caryatids, you've likely already lost; especially since this deck is B/W and there isn't much (if any) direct burn in those colors, so you need to be especially faster than the red decks.

January 31, 2015 2:19 a.m.

PhantomWang says... #5

Okay cool, thx for the advice. I'll swap in two Athreos and two Return to the Ranks and update after the next FNM.

January 31, 2015 3:08 a.m.

3good5me says... #6

Take out the God, and the skirmisher, add in raiders spoils, 1 more hordechief, 1 less bloodsoaked and 1 more woe reaper, use heros downfall and bile blight as removalThe out despise, put in 1 more woe reaper and 1 more blood soaked

February 5, 2015 1:07 a.m.

PhantomWang says... #7

You put your bloodsoaked in, you put your bloodsoaked out, you put your bloodsoaked in and shake it all about.

February 7, 2015 12:49 a.m.

LuPaiPai says... #8

interesting deck +1

February 7, 2015 12:53 a.m.

RacerXen says... #9

you and I are on the same team here man. Making this Deck Competitive for Standard. I think you want to look at the mana base and add in 2 Mana Confluence for more consistency. I've been leaning towards running 4, but that's really painful in this meta. I think Mardu warriors needs to go wide fast, and Mardu Ascendancy does that for the deck. It's a 3 drop and serves as a token generator for the deck as early as turns 3-4. A turn 5 Brutal Hordechief, along with board presence makes it a quick wrap. I've play tested this deck against my own UB and game it rolls it blows it right out of the water. I don't think the deck needs Sorin, it needs to be faster, and in the 4 slot you can just add more threats. How does Seeker of the Way Perform in the deck? We don't have many spells to trigger his Prowess, hence that's why i run run 4 Mardu Woe Reapers.

I'd axe the Aven Skirmisher and go with Mardu Woe Reaper, he's good in this meta and gives the deck much needed life gain.

Here's a link to my own Mardu Deck list:http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/10-02-15-dTB-mardu-warriors/

It would be great to bounce ideas off each other until we arrive at final product ;) +1 from me bro.

February 11, 2015 12:59 p.m.

PhantomWang says... #10

I know how you feel man. WIth Abzan Midrange and Jesai Burn running amok I really want something different that will be able to shut them down quickly. While it may take a while for Sorin to use his Ultimate ability, I think a turn 4 drop that gives my creatures +1/+0 and lifelink until my next turn is worth it. And with the number of creatures I'm able to pump out I should be able to protect him until I can get his emblem. Of course he's kinda worthless against a burn deck so maybe I should add a 4 drop to my sideboard that can replace him.

February 11, 2015 2:27 p.m.

Azure124 says... #11

in this list i wouldn't play any lands that enter tapped, you want to play something on turn one always. i would cut athreos and raider's spoils and despise in favor of 4 thoughtsieze, two more battle brawlers and one more bloodsoaked champion, i would play 4 chief of the scale in favor of the seekers and the sorin. that would be my ideal list but with budget concerns you could play the 1/1 for b with dash for 1b that when it attacks the opponent loses one or solider of the pantheon

February 17, 2015 10:04 a.m.

PhantomWang says... #12

Mardu Shadowspear is definitely a card I've been considering adding to the deck. As for the Thoughseize, that would run me about $70 to add 4 to the deck and that's simply something I cannot justify spending which is why I'm running the budget Despise. I'll make the rest of the tweaks you talked about though and see how that goes.

February 17, 2015 11:27 a.m.

Rocknj06 says... #13

Keep in mind that the investment of Thoughtseize will hold up and give you value later down the line as it is a Modern staple. In time the price will rise and it is good in any deck running black. But I do understand budget thing as I am under a budget myself, and if I had the extra money to spend, I would get myself a couple of Thoughtseize for my modern token deck.

February 20, 2015 12:01 a.m.

Hjaltrohir says... #14

Maybe you should mainboard Chief of the Scale as it gives all you guys a welcome boost.

February 20, 2015 2:16 a.m.

PhantomWang says... #15

I've considered mainboarding Chief of the Scale, but I feel he slows down the deck and should only be brought in against token decks.

February 20, 2015 10:37 a.m.

kendalmac417 says... #16

I'd recommend replacing your Mana Confluence with another mana source, such as Temple of Silence. With your deck, you wont need that many different colors.

February 20, 2015 11:16 a.m.

PhantomWang says... #17

I had Temple of SIlence in the deck, but removed it because tapped lands slow the deck down.

February 20, 2015 11:45 a.m.

DragoKdb says... #18

My buddies dek is posted on my profile. He goes 3-1 regularly at FNM

February 20, 2015 3:51 p.m.

DragoKdb says... #19

dump the sign in blood and return to the ranks. to slow. Aven skirmisher should be in the deck as well.

February 20, 2015 3:53 p.m.

doriboncore says... #20

I would lose Return to the Ranks as its to expensive and run Athreos, God of Passage instead.

check out my warrior tribal at


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February 20, 2015 9 p.m.

PhantomWang says... #21

I might be willing to sideboard Athreos, but as far as I'm concerned he has no business being in the mainboard. I agree Return to the Ranks is expensive, but it's a late game card. It's to be used at the end of the game, in case the game stalls, to bring all my creatures back for one last push to victory. I feel that has much more value than an easily removable enchantment which gives the opponent a choice.

February 20, 2015 11:12 p.m.

allenpents says... #22

good day sir, maybe you want to see this flyin' fella Aven Skirmisher

February 21, 2015 12:14 p.m.

PhantomWang says... #23

I had Aven Skirmisher in the deck, but was told to replace him with Mardu Woe Reaper. I think I've reached the point in this deck where any advice I get is just going to conflict with previous advice and end up swapping cards back and forth lol.

February 21, 2015 12:17 p.m.

Valkys says... #24

Check out:http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/orzhov-warrior-control/

My take on BW Warriors, Scooped me a 2nd on FRF Gameday, Only deck that could beat it was sultai midrange

February 23, 2015 5:40 p.m.

nodice says... #25

...and my version here: B/W WarriorsI find mine is very effective (still undefeated) and suits my desire to play with a lot of tempo and early pressure. the real gems are the main board "bad on paper, incredible in game" enchantments, Crippling Blight and Oppressive Rays. Banishing Light is a must have, the most integral part of my deck. Those 8 enchantments add up to more than the sum of the parts when you drop an Athreos, God of Passage on the board. Don't underestimate the importance of a sideboard as that is what sets a nice idea apart from a competitive deck. I run a variety of removal/disruption options to better fit each anticipated opponent. Thoughtseize is important against control decks! Also Erebos, God of the Dead is devastating to decks that try to stabilize with life gain. The best part of the gods is they can come on line in a stalled board and start swinging for the fences.

I noticed above you felt that advice is taking you back and forth, that is totally true, because all of these suggestions may or may not work because of changing variables like the other cards in the deck or the current meta, or maybe the "mini meta" in your LGS. Look at them more as options and trust your feel for what plays well together, but the more informed you are about the other options out there, the better you will be able to perceive what might work for your deck. They aren't strictly good or bad per say, just different options... Except for Mardu Woe-Reaper, he is a must have!

February 24, 2015 3:26 a.m.

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