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MrHighscore says... #2
@CharlesMandore Thank you for the feedback.
I never had much success with Humble Defector and Faithless Looting is allready in the deck ;)
Both effects on Outpost Siege seem good for the deck, and Chandra, Pyromaster also seem like a good way to generate some card advantage. I'll see if I can incorporate them into the deck.
Cheers
July 4, 2015 4:52 p.m.
CharlesMandore says... #4
Also Browbeat isn't a great choice because 40 life is plenty for people to just throw away rather than you getting three. There's also Past in Flames
July 4, 2015 10:45 p.m.
MrHighscore says... #5
@CharlesMandore agin, thanks for the constructive input.
I have sharpend the deck a bit with the cards you suggested.
Past in Flames is excellent with all the sorceries and instants in the deck, same goes for Chandra, Pyromaster (though, she'll probably just do +0 most of the time).
I have decided to keep CMC down loosing some of the more mana expensive cards in the process.
Cheers
July 5, 2015 4:28 a.m.
MrHighscore says... #6
Removed Trading Post in favor of Increasing Vengeance.
Removed Thran Dynamo and a Mountain in favor of Commander's Sphere and Mind Stone for a smoother curve and better draw later on.
July 5, 2015 9:58 a.m. Edited.
I love Descent of the Dragons as when you need to reset and attack from a different angle flying 4/4's can give you that.
July 5, 2015 5:46 p.m.
Descent of the Dragons maybe? If anything, it's better than Hellion Eruption.
July 5, 2015 7:33 p.m.
Have you considered Norin the Wary? It could make it so that opponents can't attack or play a spell without 2 damage being dealt to them
July 5, 2015 7:58 p.m.
I love this concept. I have long wished Hostility was legendary for a similar themed deck. Great work!
July 6, 2015 10:58 a.m.
Sorry for the double post, but how about Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs?
July 6, 2015 11:06 a.m.
to much land thats not good enough to make tokens and not enough good goblins
July 6, 2015 1:10 p.m.
MrHighscore says... #16
Thank you for all the suggestions!
@EDH.ghost/SpookyToe: Descent of the Dragons is most certainly better than Hellion Eruption. I'll replace it.
@dbpunk: Norin the Wary is allready in the deck and is mentioned in the deck description.
@gobucks: Hostility seems fun, but I don't think I can fit it's mechanics into this deck :)
I am unsure about Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs. He seems kind of defensive in the deck, but he could work. What would you replace for him?
@cid7707: Firecat Blitz is a great card that scales well. I'll see if I can find a spot for it.
@gwowns: Care to elaborate?
Cheers
July 6, 2015 1:15 p.m. Edited.
MrHighscore says... #17
+1 Descent of the Dragons +1 Kuldotha Rebirth +1 Firecat Blitz +1 Thatcher Revolt
-1 Hellion Eruption -1 Ruination -1 Conjurer's Closet -1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
Considering adding Isochron Scepter as it would work with Dragon Fodder, Krenko's Command, Fork, Wild Guess, Tormenting Voice, Increasing Vengeance, Reverberate and Shattering Pulse. These are fairly good odds considering the filter and draw spells.
July 6, 2015 2:06 p.m.
If you're looking for a good red draw spell, Browbeat is AMAZING. Three cards for 3 mana! Yeah, it's sorcery speed, but they might take 5 damage. Great card.
July 6, 2015 2:45 p.m.
Honestly I missed him when looking at the deck, sorry.
Personally I think Flamerush Rider and some mass token producer could help you. Like I use it and Chancellor of the Forge in my Mardu token deck and it works really well.
July 6, 2015 3:45 p.m.
Slate of Ancestry could be a more reliable card draw engine for you.
Ogre Battledriver will give your tokens extra fangs as they come onto the battlefield.
As will In the Web of War.
Furystoke Giant for a wicked surprise.
I'd add in Barrage of Expendables for another sacrificing outlet to increase your odds of seeing one.
July 7, 2015 7:16 a.m.
MrHighscore says... #21
Thank you for the suggestions!
@SpookyToe I don't think Browbeat is good in EDH, for the reason previously stated by CharlesMandore
@dbpunk I have considered dash cards, but I don't think they are good enough, compared to just throwing out a bunch of tokens. Especially Flamerush Rider is a bit of a gamble, as he may have to die to produce a single token. Regarding Chancellor of the Forge I think he is a bit situational, as I'm not guaranteed a bunch of tokens. I I were to add a 7 drop (i do have a couple with X in the casting cost) I would probably choose Pentavus or add Warstorm Surge.
@Pal00ka you are right - Slate of Ancestry is a must. I've added it to the deck.
I see you point on buffing my goblins. Instead of adding the +2/+0 temporary bonus guys, I've added a Goblin King and a Goblin Chieftain.
Adding a sac outlet would be great for the deck. Currently I'm torn between your suggestion or Tooth and Claw, that is a bit slower, but provide for additional etb triggers instead.
Cheers
+1 Goblin King, +1 Goblin Chieftain, +1Slate of Ancestry, +1 Sensei's Divining Top, +1 Isochron Scepter, +1 Madblind Mountain, +1 Siege-Gang Commander, +1 Emrakul's Hatcher
-1 Anger, -1 Faithless Looting, -1 Elemental Mastery, -1 Vandalblast, -1 Hammer of Purphoros, -1 Stranglehold, -1Skirk Prospector, -1 Burning Earth
July 8, 2015 9:20 a.m.
Skittering Invasion is decent value for you, since it "only costs 2 mana".
Rally the Horde can also end up being a one shot.
July 8, 2015 11:22 a.m.
ComradeJim270 says... #23
Know what's funny? Mana Geyser and Reiterate. When you have Grinning Ignus or Guttersnipe it's even better. Or maybe you could throw in a Goblinslide, which is something I'm experimenting with and synergizes well with your commander.
July 9, 2015 2:44 a.m.
MrHighscore says... #24
Thanks for the interesting suggestions.
@Lhurgyof: I think the inital cost on Skittering Invasion is too much for what it does. Rally the Horde on the other hand seems very interesting, though a bit random: It could result in anything in the triangle of zero creatures, loose the game, or a bunch of creatures. I'll give it some consideration.
@ComradeJim270: Mana Geyser seems insanely good in EDH - I'll try and find a spot for it.
Reiterate I'm not sure about. If we disregard the buyback cost, it's still , so it does not have a lot of targets that makes it worth a slot (5: Hellion Eruption, Descent of the Dragons, Goblin Rally, Mogg Infestation, and Empty the Warrens), and then it still requrires 7 - 9 mana to pull it off. If we take buyback into account that is 10 - 12 mana. On the other hand, it could be useful with 7 - 9 mana in play, and a hand with only Reiterate and a 1-3 CMC sorcery (of which there are 9 without ).
The Mana Geyser + Reiterate combo (11 mana) seems a bit unlikely, but could be insane fuel for an spell. on the other hand most spells where >= 8 will be pretty good on their own. Am I missing something?
Goblinslide could be an excellent addition to the deck. I think I'll put it in instead of Goblin Rabblemaster as I don't want my goblins to suicide.
Cheers
July 9, 2015 10:56 a.m.
ComradeJim270 says... #25
It does require 11 mana to pull off, but I don't think that's entirely out of reach. However you're right that it likely doesn't have enough targets here. The main way I'd use it in an aggressive deck like this is to get past a stalled-out board. But ideally that's not something that will happen with this list
Mainly though, I just thought it was something to be aware of. Goblinslide and Mana Geyser will pull their weight even without it.
CharlesMandore says... #1
Red doesn't have pure draw. You'll get stuff like Faithless Looting or Humble Defector. You could do Outpost Siege or Chandra, Pyromaster, but red doesn't have pure draw.
July 4, 2015 2:39 p.m.