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bradanuva says... #1

This is beautiful.

May 5, 2016 4:49 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #2

Honestly, there's not much I can say here that hasn't been said :) This is an extremely competitive and well-tuned deck, and Sisay is a tutor for the best cards in the game. I think I've already given this a +1 (if not, I've now rectified this mistake).

In terms of small tweaks, I might consider dropping something (perhaps Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger) for either Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (playing green stasis is backbreaking, and the mana doubling is just a bonus when you can tutor for some huge legend) or Kozilek, the Great Distortion (you have a legend at basically every mana cost, and he turns Sisay into "T: Counter target spell.").

I might also consider adding Wheel of Sun and Moon into the sideboard. It's good when cast on yourself (recycles dead legends so Sisay can find them again), and an amazing piece of tech against any graveyard-based deck (like any of mine). I got screwed over by it recently and discovered how nasty it can be.

May 20, 2016 3:30 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #3

Is there a reason you don't run Life from the Loam? I think you are pretty well set up to use it well here. I guess it could be pretty slow though.

May 20, 2016 3:59 p.m.

Boscogn says... #4

Awesome! What about Harrow?

May 21, 2016 6:02 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #5

Have you considered Champion's Helm, Magewright's Stone, or Concordant Crossroads? I've been considering that this deck is relatively dependent upon the draw power afforded by your commander to find answers and protection.

You're playing a lot of hexproof already, but C'sH is one more just in case. MW'sS gives you an extra copy of Thousand-Year Elixir, giving you double tutors each turn. And finally, CC lets you activate your commander immediately to find protection (especially Sigarda!v2).

You might also find a place for the three in-color Wishes, since you're building a sideboard already. They let you acquire non-legendary "answer" cards pretty easily.

I'm running out of suggestions to post on your deck, haha.

May 27, 2016 9:20 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #6

Love it

June 4, 2016 11:20 a.m.

PartyJ says... #7

Hi acbooster, thanks for your suggestion of adding Aura Shards. I once had it in my mainboard. But I hardly used it. But now that my meta could have some serious enchamtments powers residing in the decks I might add it to my sideboard for future matchups.

Added your suggestion

June 6, 2016 6:40 p.m.

PartyJ says... #8

Hi crydra, how is your deck running lately? Had some good matchups and interesting card interactions lately which surprised you?

I recently had a Scapeshift in my opening hand. As you might expect I tutored for Titania, Protector of Argoth the moment I got the chance. The look on my opponents face was priceless... inserts evil grinn

Your suggestion is understandable, but the sole reason I put this much ramp in the deck is to bring Sisay out as much games as possible before turn 4. Cryptolith Rite will do this only if I hit a 1 mana guy that isnt here for the mana, like Mother of Runes. Lategame I do not need the ramp and I do want my creatues to tap to attack or do their 'funny' trick they taught from Richard Garfield xD

June 6, 2016 6:53 p.m.

PartyJ says... #9

Thank you for your vote and checking the captain here Dragonman39

Keep coming back for more to follow :-)

June 6, 2016 6:54 p.m.

PartyJ says... #10

Hi Jantun, nice to hear you adore the captain as well :-)

Your suggestion of using Yomiji, Who Bars the Way is one that is more at home in a less aggressive build for Sisay. I choose to play her aggresively and ferocious. Where Yomiji is more at home in a control/toolbox based build. I want to go for the throat asap and do not wish to let it drag that long that I need such an effect. The high cmc cards in this deck should be wincons on their own for me to tutor them.

Yeva, Nature's Herald I gave it a shot, but it wasn't well suited in my current build. I tried and felt other options proved more vital. It's only 100 cards. Gheez, even with 100 you still keep crunching on what to replace... and the maybeboard still has some nice options left :)

June 6, 2016 7:04 p.m.

PartyJ says... #11

Hi Pyromancer999,

Karametra, God of Harvests is indeed a very interesting ramp card. But not for the early game. And this is where I wish to accelerate as fast as I can. By the time I could cast Karametra I want to pick another options for this cmc.

I always intend to go full aggro with her; this ship will outrun the 'Black Pearl' for sure

June 6, 2016 7:09 p.m.

PartyJ says... #12

enpc & strife65 : what to add to all this :) There are several humans in the deck to benefit from with Cavern of Souls, but if Sisay was a Buccaneer, then I would shout 'BUCCANEER' when the cave enters the battlefield xD

For now this cave is in hibernation until control crawls out of his cave in my meta...'

June 6, 2016 7:21 p.m.

PartyJ says... #13

Spread the love bradanuva

We could never have enough.... Her leadership forged the Weatherlight's finest crew.

June 6, 2016 7:23 p.m.

enpc says... #14

On the whole the logic seems good. I have to say though, personally I'm not much of a fan of Aura Shards. Yes, I know it's good. But in my experience atal east, I find it brings far too much hate. And most of the time you only really want to blow up one or two things anyway.

June 6, 2016 7:30 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #15

Honestly, I feel that your question re:Vorinclex is more complex than just a yes-no answer: it reflects a fundamental question about how you want your deck to function.

The issue of it drawing too much attention to you is legitimate, but honestly I think you're already in that position if you have your commander out and enough mana to hardcast him. Everyone assumes you're probably playing the hard-hitting legends (Eldrazi and Praetors), so there's an implicit threat whether or not you cast him. As long as you choose a good time to cast him (ie, whenever your opponents are mostly tapped out), he'll also protect himself pretty well - so I wouldn't overly worry about being the archenemy of the table.

That being said, I myself would not play Vorinclex, regardless of the strategic advantages. This may just be because of my personal philosophy in EDH, but I dislike casting him for the same reason I dislike Stasis: he slows down the game and prevents your opponents from doing anything without actually winning the game himself (at least, not for at least several miserable turn cycles). He's the kind of card that gives everyone a bad taste in their mouth if the goal was to sit down and have a fun game of magic.

Personally, I'd do what most competitive decks do and leave him in the sideboard. You can switch him in if a playgroup starts pulling out competitive decks, but I'd leave him out in general. IMO :)

June 8, 2016 7:40 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #16

Also, have you considered Tamiyo's Journal? I mean, it's slow, but I can't think of any other legendary card that is an unconditional tutor. You could stick in Briarbridge Patrol for some Standard-flavored shenanigans?

Probably a bad idea but hey no harm in voicing it.

June 8, 2016 8:50 p.m.

enpc says... #17

Daedalus19876: You're pretty on the mark with Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, IMO. Not becuase he's not fun but more becasue he doesn't actually do much for the deck. At 8 mana, cards should be making a big impact (see Avacyn, Angel of Hope) and Vorinclex sadly doesn't do enough. Not to mention the ramp benefit he provides is less than impressive considering the most expensive cards in the deck only cost two more mana.

Vorinclex has a home in some Sisay builds me thinketh, but not in this kind of battlecruiser build.

June 8, 2016 9:13 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #18

enpc: Yeah, in my experience I've found he delays the opponent from winning but doesn't actually win the game for YOU, and I expect more for that much mana. He's really nasty if you can cheat him in early, though (such as reanimation).

June 8, 2016 9:22 p.m. Edited.

PartyJ says... #19

Daedalus19876 : Thank you so much for your thoughtful comments.

You perfectly pointed out the cons for playing Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger. It's defenitely sideboard material for my build. I was doubting and struggling about the decision and when you and enpc both agree on what I was doubting about, then I will be sure to leave it as it is now :)

Kozilek, the Great Distortion is a nice trick I could pull off with Sisay, but likewise as Vorinclex does in a way, I don't want to be that guy that does everything others do as well in my meta. I think I keep the focus on playing aggressively as possible and remain the aggressor instead of the controller. Ill leave the typical blue actions to my blue meta guy. In the end I will only play reactivly with this eldrazi.... Let them react on me :)

Wheel of Sun and Moon is indeed a pretty neat card for my sideboard. Especially since we play alot of 1 vs 1 lately. So I dont have to worry about multiple graveyards. And the graveyard gets abused more these days here.

Champion's Helm : As you already noticed it's a pretty tuned Sisay build. I don't see a reason to add another efect like this, Since I can tutor protection with Sisay (Sigardev2). And if I do add it, I wont have a clue what to swap it for.

Magewright's Stone : I think it is too narrow when Sisay isnt around for some unfortunate reason :)

Concordant Crossroads : It crossed my mind when I was develloping another EDH deck recently. I will add it to my maybeboard for a next session. I don't want to skip it yet, but I am struggling what to take out for it. After all, it also counts as ramp, since it helps my rampers tap earlier. Tough choices.

Tamiyo's Journal and Briarbridge Patrol are too slow for my strategy. By the time I have 3 counters on it I want to get it done already.

Thanks again for the valuable comments!

June 9, 2016 4:28 a.m.

PartyJ says... #20

Nice suggestion illumfolly. Gladly my meta does not play land destruction alot and I do not have many sac lands yet myself. And if I can tutor up my Crucible of Worlds then I feel pretty rammed xD

Thanks for your suggestion! I will keep it in mind when I notice an increasing urge based upon my ever changing meta.

June 9, 2016 4:46 a.m.

PartyJ says... #21

Most of the ramp cards I selected for my build are carefully selected for getting Sisay out at least a turn sooner. So I avoid a rampcard with a cmc of 3 or higher, unless its really powerful. I think the 'weakest' ramp is still better than Harrow.

Thanks for the suggestion Boscogn

and I love it to KailDaemon. It can be devastating for your opponents xD

June 9, 2016 5:04 a.m. Edited.

PartyJ says... #22

After many playtests I felt that I want to change two cards in my deck; Skyshroud Claim and Drownyard Temple

Sky is an excellent ramp card, but it felt pretty lacking in my opening hand for my strategy. I want all ramp cards I could get in my opening hand to help get my commander out at least a turn sooner. Sky does not do this on its own. A replacement for this card could be Mind Stone. It gives ramp and a card draw lategame and I can get it back with Sun Titan for more carddraw.

Drownyard is just subpar compared to what it could be doing for Titania. I recieved good inspiration from Esteria about the usefulness of this card: Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. I do not have all the fetches I want yet, but someday they will arrive. So far it has 5+ targets and I can find it when needed.

Am I missing any ramp card(s) that are better and bring Sisay out a turn sooner?

Tagging enpc and Daedalus19876 for their extensive experience :)

June 12, 2016 8:44 a.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #23

I'm curious - why would you want to play an Urborg here? I feel like any other legendary land would be better.

June 12, 2016 9:24 a.m.

PartyJ says... #24

Urborg fixes Ancient Tomb, Gaea's Cradle and all fetches so that I don't have to sac them right away. Knowing that I want the 2 missing fetches as well and perhaps even an Maze of Ith if I get my hands on one.

June 12, 2016 10:19 a.m.

PartyJ says... #25

I would prefer a Wasteland to add, but I do not have a copy yet :( Our box did not have one

June 12, 2016 10:57 a.m. Edited.

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