Don't forget the 6 drop CMC, as well as Dosan and Grand Abolisher to choose.... I think Prowling Serpopard is far superior

Dragonlord Dromoka is superior. The 6 CMC is nothing for this deck, just look at the ramp. Plus Dromoka can put in work on the battlefield while the others really cannot and Dromoka is easily searchable with Sisay. Dosan is not bad but prevents you from interacting on other peoples turns

The strength of 2-3 CMC repetition of anti-counters & play on your own turn creatures reaches beyond CMC & beater strengths. Those other creatures can be played prior to Sisay... It's a pretty hard pill to swallow to wait for 6 Mana & Dromoka if all you really need is something to keep your linchpin creatures & tactics from getting broken up. Make no mistake; Dromoka rules, but a lot of your combos or winning tactics often should already be in the works before a 6drop Dromoka. Drawing a 2-3 cost counter negation & playing it early can make for some fantastically wasted hands for blue-heavy opponents.

Agreed Gleeock

Grahamatica.... I respectfully disagree. When you are reliably winning on turn 3-5, Dromoka is indeed too expensive to be the kickstart to the win combo.

Dromoka or anything that allows you to have free reign on the next turn is usually destroyed or exiled before you can implement the win condition. And I know I rarely can get 10+ mana by turn 3 or so... therefore Dosan played and then Paradox/Umbral etc is a winner.

Dromoka is ok if you do not have an absolute brutal ultra-competitive meta and can expect the game to last 8 turns+.... but for an ultra-competitive Sisay against tier 1 decks... Dosan, Prowling Serpaprod and Grand abolisher just rule.

+420 upvotes, blaze it.

By which I mean, set your deck on fire and smoke it. Gotta use that cardboard crack.

Hey what do you think of the new card Hour of Promise? I know it's 5 mana and all, and that there exists cheaper such cards like Expedition Map and Sylvan Scrying, but it finds you afterall 2 of Any land and puts them onto the field.

I don't know if you would have a use for this here, as maybe it's not the best choice in this clearly finely tuned deck of yours with this being possibly too weak, but I just thought I would mention it anyways so that it was on your radar.

Huge deck overhaul based on the latest sets and interactions. As soon as I get my facts straight I will post an update which explains all changes. Deck description is outdated as well and will be adjusted asap.

Thanks for your patience!

I would add a lot of the lower cost legends I'm play sisay as well but I'm playing the storm version consistent wins before turn 4 I would add Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter, Rhys the Redeemed, Oath of Nissa, Isamaru, Hound of Konda, Saffi Eriksdotter, Oath of Ajani, Melira, Sylvok Outcast, most of the creatures are humans with low cmc so you can abuse both Paradox Engine and Sigarda, Heron's Grace with the mana rocks/dorks you have and the engine you can pretty much tutor your deck as soon as sisay can tap

Seems good; I just added a heap of low CMC manadorks to mine - I prefer 2 CMC or lower so that the dork is either useful as a dork or for dropping Sisay early

Have to question the inclusion of Priest of Titania in a non-elf deck. You have only 8 elves including the Priest, and only 3 of them are easily tutorable and obviously the Priest isn't one of them. But if that's your preference, then I highly recommend the inclusion of Seeker of Skybreak for obvious multiple options and reasons.

I am not sure why you took out Umbral Mantle. And having Aetherflux Reservoir a 4 drop CMC that is not an outright wincon is a bit baffling. Now if you had left in the Mantle and added Crovax, Ascendant Hero then I could understand, but I feel it's just not strong enough for the lofty standards your deck has set.

The same with your inclusion of Heroes' Podium it just seems out of place.

I can see you are going for a more Stax feel, and I too have contemplated and worked with that mechanic..... I just found it; lacking. Not decisive enough and weakens your presence when it is invariably dealt with. But that's just personal preference, and is also based on not knowing your meta, while comparing it to mine ;)

I understand you are trying to reduce the CMC costs, but to what detriment? I have a CMC cost just 0.04 higher than yours but feel my Competitive Sisay deck is far more robust and has more options than yours..... but hey my friend.... just my opinion.

Will be fun to see how this new incarnation pans out :)

Alrighty, let's talk turkey (sorry about the lateness of htis reply btw).

So personally, I think you're going in too many directions. It means that you get less slots dedicated to each stratgey, making them weaker overall. I also think it's silly to try and build a casual route for the deck. If you do want to play this deck in a more casual setting, you're better off just changing your play style rather than diluting the deck.

Knowing the deck's history, I think that the best build for you is storm/infinite mana combo still. Especially with the printing of the new 6 CMC legendary Stoneforge Mystic, now Sisay has a direct line to all of her combo pieces. That coupled with all of the low CMC mana dorks, I think that the Aetherflux Reservoir storm package integrates very nicely with the Selvala, Heart of the Wilds + Umbral Mantle infinite mana into Kamahl, Fist of Krosa combo. All the dorks give you spells for Aetherflux and they also provide bodies to swing with under Kamahl. You could easily add a few toolbox cards like Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite to still get some of that silver bullet hate on but for the most part, I think that a more aggresive combo build fits here.

Let me know your thoughts on my take on it all - I think offering much more than this right now would just muddy the direction of hte deck. Also, tagging Wurmlover regarding Sisay builds.

Perhaps try adding in Living Plane for the combo with Elesh Norn? I know it can't be tutored with Sisay but it's much cheaper and ultimately devastating to the entire board for 4 mana instead of the 6 with Kamahl (keeping him in is good though)

I second jiminy_macca, Living Plane is a great combo piece and provides some decent protection from boardwipes as almost no one wants to be blowing their own lands.

Personally I'm not really feeling any love for Crovax, Ascendant Hero. He just feels like a dead card except of one niche combo. And what's more than that, outside of combo he kills all your own dorks.

If you're primarily using Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre as a reshuffler, I still say that Kozilek, Butcher of Truth is a better engine. Plus it's card advantage and you can get the same kind of loops going using Aetherflux Reservoir, Miren, the Moaning Well and Voyaging Satyr (yes, I get that it's more cards, but overall less dead cards). That or find a slot for Cloudstone Curio which I think will do more work overall.

I have also been eyeing off Scryb Ranger as a potential Sisay piece. Seems really strong.

I'm not sure why so many people prefer Living Plane + Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, In terms of CMC/mana saved + smash activated abilities (bye-bye Breya) I use Linvala, Keeper of Silence instead of Elesh.... Make no mistake I also use Elesh in my deck & sometimes as the 2nd 1/2 of that combo, but generally only a select few strategy or ramp artifacts can deal with that linvala + plane combo once it is out.

+1. I do not really know what to suggest. It looks well. +1!

Umezawa's Jitte

With the new Legendary rule for planeswalkers, are there any G/W/GW Planewalkers you'll be adding to this deck since you can now tutor them out?

Did that errata actually happen?

Yes

It seems that all planeswalkers (past and present) get the legendary type added. For cEdh purposes in an aggro/storm deck like this one it has little to no impact. The combo lines that are already available to us do not improve of become faster because of planeswalker options. Perhaps Garruk Wildspeaker could be interesting, but it would not speed up the wincons we currently run. Stax builds might benefit from it more. If your meta asks for mass removal, which in cEDH is usually too slow, then Elspeth, Sun's Champion could be of help. But again, this is not something cEdh builds should desire.

@PartyJ I agree with the PWs not really being of use in this. The only one I can see being useful is Karn Liberated to swap out for Mangara of Corondor since it would be a reuseable effect instead of one-and-done. Besides, Karn adds to the Weatherlight Crew flavor!

The Bow of Nylea + Blasting Station combo is definitely strong but I am curious why you chose this option vs Crovax, Ascendant Hero + Aetherflux Reservoir combo when you also run Rest in Peace (which will potentially shut down Bow-Station). Would like to hear your reasons regarding this change.

You have one other combo line in the deck that you haven't mentioned - Paradox Engine + Selvala, Explorer Returned + Green Sun's Zenith.

Once you have drawn all the cards in your deck, yo ucan continually play GSZ, failing to find, which untaps Selvala and gives you a card to draw. This combo lets you deck out your opponents.

@enpc This combo was already mentioned. See above primer under "Finishing Lines".