Sisay has the answers | * Hibernation * | Primer
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Calebthelion says... #3
tyty4ty cause the PWs in selesnya colors are just really bad in cEDH, theyre slow and aside from maybe Garruk Wildspeaker do nothing to progress your game plan.
December 27, 2017 11:11 p.m.
OptimalGreen says... #4
Hoping this deck survives the banlist update ont he 15th. It looks super fun for higher level play.
January 9, 2018 1:25 a.m.
HydraBerzerk says... #5
you could try using Rishkar, Peema Renegade. you can tutor it with Sisay and it helps with mana ramp or just giving your creatures a little extra boost.
January 30, 2018 11:19 p.m.
Oh, my, God! This deck is amazing, the playtest is addicting!
I will give it a try on paper magic for sure! Have most of the list and the rest i'LL substitute with something similar rs
Love it!
PLUS ONE +1
PLUS ULTRA!
March 9, 2018 8:47 a.m.
I am so looking forward to "Kamahl's druidic vow" - A tutorable genesis wave.
March 10, 2018 11:36 p.m.
You must be very excited for Dominaria with all of the new legendary creature cards. Especially Mox Amber seems super awesome!
Anyhows, great decklist! What about Priest of Titania? Great ramp and with a bit of luck you can tap it for 3 or 4 mana.
March 14, 2018 3:46 a.m.
OptimalGreen says... #10
Would the Talisman or the Signet get cut for Mox Amber? I'm thinking Talisman.
March 14, 2018 7:19 p.m.
OptimalGreen says... #11
I'd love to know your thoughts on Shanna, Sisay's Legacy. She's 2cmc and gets +1/+1 for every creature you control and is legendary making her tutorable so when you've got Akroma's Memorial out she seems great.
March 21, 2018 10:08 a.m.
CrimsonWings3689 says... #12
Any thoughts on 'Urza's Ruinous Blast'? A tutorable wrath with Sisay seems invaluable when you're bound to have more stick than anyone else.I had considered 'Kamahl's Druidic Vow' as well, but realized it's a worse (albeit tutorable) Genesis Wave. The key combo pieces/enablers outside of Paradox Engine such as Umbral Mantle, Blasting Station and Thousand-Year Elixir, nevermind the mana rocks/dorks would all get tossed to the GY.
March 28, 2018 10:32 p.m. Edited.
I don't play the competitive end of the spectrum as much with Sisay (more like casual-compet.). But I am excited for 'Kamahl's Druidic Vow' I sometimes have massive mana output but a keystone wincon is removed.... So my meta has recognized that mana production is actually secondary target to removal in a similar deck versus keystone wincon/stax pieces. This card just offers another ridiculously explosive manasink option for when someone instants the Paradox Engine
And again, not really a true competitive card but I am so hyped for Helm of the Host for multiple Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Iona, Shield of Emeria, etc...
I don't think the latter is the strongest concept in THIS Sisay deck, but they are things to think about :)
March 29, 2018 12:09 a.m.
CrimsonWings3689 says... #14
Thoughts on Mox Amber, Board the Weatherlight and Weatherlight from Dominaria?
Mox Amber seems like a good card, but the potential for it to be dead on the first 1-3 turns is an understandable problem. You're currently running all the cheap/optimal 0 drop mana rocks, so I'm curious if this will also make the list.
I think that while Board the Weatherlight leaves something to be desired in light of cards like Enlightened Tutor, Eladamri's Call, and Worldly Tutor. Though for argument's sake, you have 7 lands, 17 creatures, and 16 artifacts that could be hit off of it. 40 possible hits out of 99 isn't terrible odds to get something of value. White doesn't get to dig/scry + draw without artifacts. It would be possible to whiff, but it wouldn't happen very often given the current density of possible hits.
Weatherlight is more of the same from the above mentioned point, it just has the benefit of being repeatable. Likely not competitive enough to make your list, but it's flavorful as all hell though.
April 2, 2018 10:53 p.m. Edited.
CrimsonWings3689 says... #15
I also imagine that Shalai, Voice of Plenty is going to be a near strict upgrade to Sigarda, Heron's Grace?
The -1/-1 and loss of her second ability seems insignificant in light of the 1cmc less, you, all other creatures and PW's you control get hexproof, plus the 4GG to Gavony Township your board is also a useful mana sink. Home run all around for sure.
April 3, 2018 6:54 p.m.
Mox Amber makes the combo faster because you don't have to search for Bow of Nylea (which has 3CMC and can be replaced with a 0CMC).
Don't think Weatherlight is good enough, but it's a sweet flavor card ;)
April 11, 2018 2:58 a.m.
arvarnargul says... #17
My take on all the cards I think could be relevant to sisay EDH
I think Mox Amber is probably overrated for this deck. If you don't have Mox Opal it's a fine replacement, but I can't see cutting anything specifically for this. I have had too many uses of the abilities of Bow of Nylea to ever remove it and most of the other artifacts are pretty staple to me.
Baird, Steward of Argive is a creature I'm interested in to help with the taxing to try and survive if it takes longer to go off because Sisay becomes a target pretty quickly if she has a slower start.
Blackblade Reforged is a card i think is worth testing since it helps trigger panharmicon and the equip cost will almost always be 3 in this deck, which is reasonable if you ever need to go vultron.
Benalish Marshal doesn't seem like it fits with the deck because triple white is hard to get early enough to matter, but I could be wrong because it's sweet (and goes in my legacy knights/solders deck :p).
Unlike modern where Damping Sphere is overrated, it will be everywhere in EDH and will be the bain of cradles/nythkos everywhere so dealing with this will require some additional considerations.
D'Avenant Trapper seems sweet for the turn you go off. Probably not good enough at the competitive tables though.
Marwyn, the Nurturer might be good due to the fact that most of our mana ramp happens to incidentally be elves. I doubt it works in general, but there is potential for this to get out of hand.
Shalai, Voice of Plenty has a pull against Sigarda, Heron's Grace like said above, but I'm not sure if it's a "strict upgrade" or not. Sometimes that second ability of sigarda matters when you need to block something stupid for a turn.
Shanna, Sisay’s Legacy don't think this card is worth it, the only reason i think it could see play is to help untap with panharmicon.
Urza's Ruinous Blast i think the cost is prohibitive on this guy, but i could be proven wrong.
April 12, 2018 2:14 p.m.
iamthemanateeofdestruction says... #18
So much of this is using too many cards and too much energy to do what it does. I'm guessing you like building it that way so i won't judge you on that :P.
The deck seems nice. You could use some combos that save you like Archangel + Spikefeeder or Worship + Saffi + Sun Titan.
You should also really consider including Defense of the Heart. Of course that card depends on your playgroup, but it's almost always triggered in EDH and it's an easy way to have Kamahl + Elesh on turn 5-6.
April 24, 2018 4:49 a.m.
CrimsonWings3689 says... #19
Thoughts on Thran Temporal Gateway? seems potentially useful in making your legends uncounterable (outside of corner cases and the 5 or 6 cards in the game that can attempt to do anything about it). Bonuses are: it's tutorable, interacts well with Paradox Engine and can give flash to problematic legendary permanents you have available in hand.
Just not sure if it's competitive enough when Planar Bridge wasn't able to make the cut. Thoughts on this being well costed enough by comparison (play + activation)?
April 24, 2018 10:57 p.m.
Any effect that puts a permenant into play without casting it is an issue with this deck as it doesn't synergize with paradox engine, which requires a cast trigger.
May 5, 2018 9:27 p.m.
OptimalGreen says... #21
What do you think of Bountiful Promenade and the other Bond Lands? :v
June 10, 2018 11:13 p.m.
CrimsonWings3689 says... #22
@KR4N1X: I meant that it could serve as a way to get Paradox Engine into play with little fear of interaction (save for the handful of stifle effects). It also has the same benefit for crucial combo pieces at either EOT or in response to spells/abilities, such as flashing in Shalai, Voice of Plenty or Avacyn, Angel of Hope, which you might not want to cast anyway without cards like Dosan the Falling Leaf or Grand Abolisher out to protect your turn
June 23, 2018 3:19 p.m.
@CrimsonWings3689
While yes, this let's you cheat in creatures in response to other actions, it does nothing to untap the dorks and rocks. Most sisay decks are strained for mana until after they get out the lockdown creatures and can then pull out the legendary dorks to win. At the point that mana isnt a problem, neither is counterspells and abilities.
June 23, 2018 3:46 p.m.
New Update A new competitive Dawn... — 23 september 2018 has been posted at the top.
Looking forward to all your comments and suggestions!
Chiberia says... #1
I could have sworn I already upvoted this (Ive seen it before and thought it was very well done)
If you dont mind me asking how do you get the custom categories such as "Ramp?" I cannot figure out how to get them like that
December 10, 2017 2:49 p.m.