Abbey "happens" by creating Creatures in the late game.

I do not want to Transform it.

If I did, Kalitas makes Zombies and the Abbey itself makes Clerics.

So I've played with this deck for about 2 weeks now. Some things I've changed that you can keep in mind. I got rid of the 4 caves, some games I was eating away at my life way to quickly before my opponent would even hit me. I put 4 Evolving Wilds, 2 Forsaken Sanctuary, I got rid of one abbey and one swamp. The wilds helps get delirium for To the Slaughter since you don't have many creatures. I also took out 2 Duress and one anguish for 3 Read the Bones. I was stuck at 1 or no cards and didn't have my draw triggers out, especially against b/w/u. Make sure you go to the restroom before the event. You don't get a break.. Ever

Schmuckey different play groups give different results. My local meta is weird, and that's the one I've kept in mind when building this deck.

I've got no doubt that it needs to be tweaked by others to match their meta/play style.

I played this in a tournament for the first time tonight.

I never ran out of cards in my hand in any of my games. In fact I was often discarding extra cards at the end of my turn.

Apart from one match that went super long, my other matches were the first finished each round.

Life loss was only a problem for me in one match. I am VERY used to playing with Pain lands, though.

I hope that your version was fun for you to play. What were your results? I went 3-1. Detailed Match Report is in the Update.

You totally got screwed in the one you lost. Always Watching only enhances nontoken creatures.

Actually, he might have said that.

It's good for me to keep in mind anyway, so thanks for pointing that out ancientgorillashaman.

He had an Artifact out that was pumping up his Tokens as well. The one that flips.

The games were quite complex at some points.

You definitely got hosed; Always Watching affects nontoken. If he led you to believe it does both he's A) Essentially cheating and B) Exploiting your...I should say....niceness

Part of it was your fault for not being aware of it; so if you run into that again down the road; be aware that Watching does NOT affect token creatures

AgentGreen you didn't read my response that I got that wrong and he didn't say that for Tokens, he used an equipment on them.

It was my first time playing against that card. If you think I'm going to know every card intimately, think again.

I pulled people up on a lot of misplays last night. Nothing to do with me being "nice", everything to do with me being inexperienced in regard to that card.

I think I was typing that and working at the same time. So I didn't catch your response. I apologize.

Having said that I am close on getting what I need to finish this deck, and finding 4 Glimmervoids from my old affinity deck from 10+ years ago should help pay for what I need

Well I can tell you that it played perfectly for me, note for note, so I hope it does as well for you.

My meta isn't hugely competitive, though.

I'm in Tokyo this week so I might take it out for a play. I believe most players are very competitive there.

I'm short a few cards and they won't get here before an SCG event, so I'm going to swap the missing components out with Eldrazi cards.

If you're swapping them for Kalitas you are screwed.

His Lifelink and ability to make Zombies are essential.

Well I have 2 Kalitas; and I'll be stripping down my existing deck to inject the

That begs the question; is the Abby required or "nice to have"

I would say you can play with Blighted Fen instead of the Abbey.

However, if you're playing against a deck which has a lot of removal, Shambling Vent and the Clerics made by the Abbey become very important.

Your Opponent can also kill the Vent, but they can't kill the Abbey unless you flip it, which I never do.

Without any Creatures to help, your only Win Con is Sorin, Grim Nemesis' first and ultimate abilities.

And having a single win con is not a great deckbuilding

I have one Abby; just the one, I'll use that and hope to get a 2nd one.

I'm going to sit down tonight and start assembling the deck; once I get it done I'll throw it here

Gideon over Ob Nix.

Care to give a reason?

Or is it just, "Can is White so must Gideon because stuff"?

25-30 bits of removal and some bombs to win?

Wow you've just broken this game to its most boring components. Why bother playing?

That's not deckbuilding, its boring.

There's no point even writing down what the cards are in the deck, they all do the same thing.

Adrekan; the point of playing Magic is to beat the other guy; doesn't matter how you do it.

So would you say the same thing to Bant Company? Which basically means drop a whole bunch of cheap creatures and overwhelm your opponent

Adrekan that's how Control decks work.

If you don't like that type of deck, don't play it.

There's no need to get persnickety on someone else's deck Comments.

If we all went around to deck lists we don't like playing and complained about them, this place would be a mess.

As for all the cards in the deck doing the same thing, you might need to read them a bit more closely.

The differences are subtle and might not be obvious to some.

Gideon over ob nix because late game you do you not want to be pinnging yourself for a life, also against aggro its much better to keep knocking 2/2 knights

No spacecoyote1313.

Late game Ob Nixilis Reignited is brilliant because it can kill a threat on the way in, and then give significant draw. That way I get more cards in hand to answer threats.

I have Ob Nixilis Reignited, Shambling Vent, and the final ability of Sorin, Grim Nemesis to offset any life lost.

I do take your point about aggro, though, so I'll throw three copies of Gideon in the Sudeboard.

Cool deck, +1 from me. Just out of curiousity, how does it perform against decks with a low creature count (a situation in which you wouldn't need as much removal)?

I played against a deck like this on MTGO and it used Secure the Wastes as well. Made for good chump blockers on in my case a finishing swarm.

Yeah Secure the Wastes works, but so does Sorin's final ability.

plainbrad it is often a weird, grindy match against decks without many Creatures, and can struggle against   Control.

That's why I liked the suggestion of adding Gideon, Ally of Zendikar to the Sideboard. I have yet to test that in a tourney, so we'll see how it goes.

I mistyped before.

I wrote this:

"I have Ob Nixilis Reignited, Shambling Vent, and the final ability of Sorin, Grim Nemesis to offset any life lost."

What I meant to write was this:

"I have Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Shambling Vent, and the final ability of Sorin, Grim Nemesis to offset any life lost."