LiveForChaos agreed. But I'm not that worried about the creature itself, just about its potential to one-shot people. 8/8-or-so creatures aren't THAT threatening unless they have evasion or can be pumped so large to trample over everything, and with shroud both of those are hard.

Slight wording changes, I suppose, but it's fair enough. But if you're going to make it conditional, I'd just stick with Hexproof. Adding Shroud makes it too disadvantaged imho

Whoops, sorry UpsetYoMama, that was meant to be for LiveForChaos.

Sorry, my b

Why did you change it to 1/1?

+8/+8 can stay. 2/1 can stay.

It would take at least three hits anyway, and the part-time shroud throws off being able to give it the tools to two shot.

It's fine, just needs to be taken out otherwise he never dies.

LiveForChaos: I doubt it, since the original card just proliferated twice per turn.

If he was making this card into a triple Vorel effect, it is so unbelievably broken that I will not play with it in the same universe as me.

NoviceMagician My original draft had nonlegendary but I was typing at 12:00 XD. SO is it approved. also, is there a way to make Goblin Game work? Like we all type a number in chat or something

Here's (hopefully) the last Progenitor of the Unreal

Here's also my updated commander for wording purposes

@ninjaman16782, yeah, the commander is fine so far. As for Goglin Games, I don't really know. If you guys can figure it out then you are welcome to use it, but if no one can figure a way out then it would just be best to avoid using it.

@SirFowler, thanks, you get a pat on the head from senpai. ~pats you on the head~ Can I ask why you decided to change the art?

@LiveForChaos, it does need to be fixed. Presently, it can triple the loyalty counters on every planeswalkers he has in just one turn. Allowing him to get their ultimate right when they hit the field.

@NoviceMagician Well, I just felt like this art captured the card's flavor better as a whole. A spirit who has been consumed by blackness from the Abyss, but still manages to pull the spirits from the darkness to help with his deeds. I did like the other art, but I just went with this one instead. Do you think I should change it back?

I think it's fine. Both of the arts looked cool. Up to you. :)

CCCA and Status Update incoming.

@Daedalus19876, Magicrafter, 6tennis, JA14732, canterlotguardian, Trockenmatt, KalvinHobbez, SirFowler, The_Dragonmaster, Maringam, Casey4321, UpsetYoMama, LiveForChaos, VampireArmy, ninjaman16782, and Raze999.

Status Update.

A few questions for you all.

;)

I almost forgot;

@canterlotguardian, you need to change the wording in your commander to include "for each type of counters" so that it isn't a 3x Vorel.

Are dice rolls supported by untap? How about coin flips? If dice are and coins are not could we say something like 1,3,5 are heads, and 2,4,6 are tails?

Oh, forgot again:

@JA14732, your commander needs to have shroud instead of hexproof. And it needs to be part-time, so when you have at least 10 basics or more, it loses shroud. The buff amount is up to you to decide.

I don't know if dice rolls are supported by untap.in.

Why u ask?

Random number generators are a thing and I assume they shall be used for all random effects. If they don't have native support, NoviceMagician as the dungeon master can do them since he is impartial.

Yeah, I'll be spectating the matches, so I could just do them IRL, and post the results on chat.

@ninjaman16782 The ? mark is how you roll/flip a coin on untap.

Because I want to run a lot of cards that do coin flips and if it doesn't do dice I can't see how else to make that work. If there is no way to do coin flips then I can scrap that idea, although I might need to rethink my commander then

Thanks SirFowler! Also, how do I make my commander as a card on tapped out?

I could always flip coins and roll dice IRL for you ninja. I won't lie about the roll/flip, as Daedalus said, I'm impartial who wins this.

First, upload the image to imgur, then take the direct link that imgur gives you. The on the deck list on untap, there is a section for alternate cards. Type the card name in there and add a right after the name, then put the direct link from imgur after the name, like this: CARDNAMEIMAGEURL'

After that, it'll generate a code. Then you put the card in the section that says "starts in play" with the code after. Then you'll have an alternate commander.