[cEDH Primer] To Infinity & Beyond
Commander / EDH
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Inventors fair isn’t needed. There’s more than enough better ways to get an artifact. Took it out of urza for that reason.
August 8, 2019 11:30 a.m.
maybe drop misdirection for intuition and maybe drop tez for personal tutor?
August 8, 2019 12:51 p.m.
I would drop reshape before dropping Tez and misdirection is fow vs fow
August 8, 2019 8:03 p.m.
This is cEDH territory for sure. What holds Elsha backs most is the cmc, but your deck is packed with the best artifact ramp out there. T3 Elsha looks routine. +1 vote here cause this looks scary.
No Helm of Awakening ? Ya know the ol' top combo works like a charm.
I wonder what your meta is like. This deck is heavy on countering like whoa but, is on light interaction beyond that. If it works, it works, just curious.
August 8, 2019 9 p.m.
Flash_Andretti says... #7
redace10 we will for sure get that cmc down buddy. The goal is ultimately below 1.8. Elsha is looking to be the best Jeskai we've ever seen, she's for sure as resilient as Urza and is looking to be hard to stop. We'll keep this list updated.
jmessy17 here is the server https://discord.gg/RDJnaM
August 8, 2019 11:36 p.m.
Flash_Andretti says... #8
jmessy17 new server link, the other one is shutting down. https://discord.gg/s4HEp9
August 9, 2019 1:11 p.m.
jmessy17, we don’t run helm because it’s honestly a dead draw unless ur going off and it still reduces opponents spells by 1 as well. We have cloud key in to reduce tops cost. It’s actually the route we want to take to draw the deck and win.
August 9, 2019 4:52 p.m.
shadowmage says... #12
it is a actually a crime against humanity to not run Etherium Sculptor or Helm of Awakening in this deck
August 15, 2019 4:06 p.m.
Flash_Andretti says... #13
shadowmage I have nothing against running Helm of Awakening , i'm just not over the fact it is not asymmetrical is all and that's on me, then again 2 cmc > 3 cmc. None of the builds with Proteus Staff though are running Etherium Sculptor , since it goes against the strategy of staff.
August 15, 2019 8:31 p.m.
shadowmage says... #14
Sir_Flash yea that makes sense. Helm is a card I usually only play in decks on the turn I'm going to go off or win.
August 15, 2019 8:38 p.m.
It says midrange, and I can get behind that, but I still think running B2B is not optimal here. With seven basics and no way to break parity, playing a 3CMC enchantment that hurts you as much as others is not what the deck wants to be doing.
I know a lot of cEDH decks have been dropping Swords to Plowshares (or Pongify ), but I actually like it here since being creatureless means you won't have a board state and you won't be able to police the table. Sometimes you need to be able to kill problematic hatebears that managed to slip through the counterspells.
August 16, 2019 6:25 p.m.
Flash_Andretti says... #16
muse99 you make a ton of sense but do remember we can bounce our own stuff as well. Would you think Blood Moon would be better suited than B2B, also yeah a ton of builds have been dropping StP lately. I'm just not as big on it as i used to be. But this is all still in testing so I won't say it will not be in this build again. I just need to make sure it is the right call is all.
August 17, 2019 12:16 a.m.
Nothing to say about the deck except it LITERALLY scared the shit out of me when the song came out of nowhere. Remind me not to huff and puff the devils lettuce while looking at this.
Deck seems solid, +1
August 17, 2019 1:47 a.m.
Flash_Andretti says... #18
muse99 so talked to one of my buddies about the point you made and will make the change (damn you logic). I appreciate the advice.
Profet93 thank you buddy.
August 17, 2019 4:58 a.m. Edited.
No problem, glad to be able to contribute as I love how this list is shaping up. By the way, have you been goldfishing? How is that working out?
August 17, 2019 6:25 a.m.
Flash_Andretti says... #20
I definitely have and its been a blast. My favorite line to go into is Double Scepter for sure. The only thing me and a buddy were wondering is if we need Dragon Tempest in order to give the birds haste when we infinite with swan song.
August 17, 2019 11:37 a.m.
Sir_Flash if ran nexus u would just cyc rift narset wheel and take another turn
August 17, 2019 11:52 p.m.
So your main win condition is Swan Song loops, yeah? Other than turning sideways with a prowess'd Elsha, is there any other backup plan?
August 23, 2019 2:08 a.m.
Flash_Andretti says... #23
enpc you have time twister loops and Rolling Earthquake as well.
August 23, 2019 1:27 p.m.
But Rolling Earthquake relies on you having more life than all your opponents though and Timetwister loops still need a card to act as pay off, such as Swan Song . Please don't get me wrong, I really like the list, I'm just trying to figure out the redundancy in the deck's win conditions.
August 23, 2019 9:23 p.m.
how do you win with scepter + swan song now? Scepter doesn't get untapped
Shmekles says... #1
I definitely think we need to slot in intuition and personal tutor. Both provide a line to staff.
August 8, 2019 11:28 a.m.