Codeboy3423 says... #2
Arsene I indeed thought of this but Fiend Hunter would only exile Target creature while Oblivion Ring does not.
Yes that adds another human for my Champion of the Parish and Champion of Lambholt to use...but I cant seem to figure which cards to remove to add it in to the Main deck and not Sideboard. Otherwise it just comes down to personal prefference as both are very good cards to use.
October 11, 2012 10:55 p.m.
i would use Rancor over Growing Ranks cuz your not populating big things i understand that your Champion of Lambholt gets bigger from your populate but i would rather get in with more dmg just me maybe but all in all your stuff looks sick =P +1 from me check out my Rhox "Rocks" deck i would love some veiws/suggestions =P its just started playtesting as i have now aquired most of the cards i want in it and just need to do some tweaking on the sideboard b4 i post it up
October 12, 2012 2:47 a.m.
Codeboy3423 says... #4
jbers713 yeah this is always the rough part on decks what to improve with out lossing its effectivness on what I made it to do..
Maby I should switch out Fencing Ace with Rancor on my side board that way I'll still have access to it.
Or try that infinite life combo by adding a 3rd Fiend Hunter onto the sideboard and board it in to use with card:Trostani, Selesnya's Voice if need be. (Honestly that combo is soo broken lol.)
October 13, 2012 3:13 p.m.
imaginarypuppets says... #5
I'd consider sideboarding a few Sigarda, Host of Herons , they're fantastic against control.
October 14, 2012 4:51 p.m.
Unicorn_porn says... #6
not rating rooborn defences i would prefere Bonds of Faith myself (they are a must for human surely?)
October 14, 2012 5:04 p.m.
Codeboy3423 says... #7
imaginarypuppets yes Sigarda, Host of Herons would look like a good choice at first glance due to its ability to not sacrifice creatures but its not really at all for this deck as it puts no contribution for what im trying to do with this deck.
Unicorn_porn getting rid of Rootborn Defenses for Bonds of Faith is not a good move at all as it would help cripple on what im trying to accomplish.
Bonds of Faith truly belongs in a honest to goodness Human Deck and As you can see im not running all humans in here there are Centuars, Elementals, Soldiers even a Dryad..Just so everyone no knows Soldiers are not considered human unless it says its a human.
October 14, 2012 5:45 p.m.
i like the infinite life combo but in all honesty unless your running 4 Fiend Hunter the likely hood of it hitting is questionable and then if your not planing for it to be the loop you need to use your flickers to change there targets i do like were your going and im glad your taking consideration for rancor as getting dmg in is a big problem for my Rhox "Rocks" deck other than Armada Wurm i am trying to squeeze room for rancor in my build as we speak so keep up the good work and keep pluggin in them numbers
October 14, 2012 11:09 p.m.
lol, Sigarda, Host of Herons is good because it's a 5/5 flier, has HEXPROOF, and has some other shitty ability, i play control and sigarda just kills me, i have to waste a Supreme Verdict on one creature, imaginarypuppets is right, its insane, i might main board it. i would also try to even out your cards and make good cards (Silverblade Paladin , card:Avacyn's Pilgrim, o-ring Call of the Conclave and Gather the Townsfolk ) 4 of, while taking out your bad cards (Growing Ranks , Sundering Growth , Precinct Captain and Wayfaring Temple )
October 15, 2012 5:07 p.m.
Codeboy3423 says... #11
theonyc What your describing is to have me get rid of what makes this deck tic and turning it into just a humans deck with an endgame flyer.
I see your suggestion and it will make a great human deck but thats NOT what I had intended to make this deck do.
What I want to do is have my champions grow huge due to populate and if that cant be done I will still have a BIG freaking army to use that would populate each turn.
While I appreciate your opinion I dont appreciate suggestions that would turn it into something compleately different.
I am asking for suggestions that would help make this deck better and thrive from what its intended to do.
October 15, 2012 10:41 p.m.
i actually don't think that what i said would turn it human (or it isn't supposed to), Sundering Growth is mostly a side board card, other then o-ring/sphere, how many artifacts or enchantments are commonly played? it will mostly be a dead draw. Wayfaring Temple doesn't have trample and can be easily cock blocked, and in standard, Precinct Captain is just meh, he's not to strong, doesn't do that much and can be Pillar of Flame d or Izzet Charm ed away. Growing Ranks costs to much mana for too little effect. Call of the Conclave is both good at aggro and token/populate. i think you should play populate effects, just not bad/slow ones
October 15, 2012 11:09 p.m.
Codeboy3423 says... #13
theonyc I understand about Sundering growth being mostly a sideboard card so I side boarded it with card:Druid's Deliverance That way there is a guarante populate..
As for Precinct Captain the point is for him to make tokens not be the really strong guy All I need is for him to do is make 1 token then I populate that one token to feed Champion of Lambholt and grow my token army.
As for Growing Ranks Thats why I only put 2 in there if it was any less I be running 4 of them and 4 Call of the Conclave which could easily turn just ONE of them into 16 3/3 centuars in one turn upkeep.
As for Wayfaring Temple it cant be blocked if Champion of Lambholt comes out before him.
October 15, 2012 11:55 p.m.
as we have been talking about Precinct Captain he has his ups and downs and when he is given Rancor he can do some things early alot of ppl underestimate how annoying first strike is until there losing trades due to the ability ya he can be burnt but that is having him get burnt not something else so all in all he can be considered underrated but in the right situation and meta he can be a entertaining 2 drop the biggest thing i have agesnt the lil captain is that he is two white to cast and having 2 Growing Ranks isnt a bad thing as he isnt relying on it to build up his army if it were me i would attempt to get another card:Trostani, Selesnya's Voice or 2 as i like her other ability and she will be delt with as soon as u show her pretty 3 faces but thats what were here for brainstorming and getting good and bad feedback it all helps when trying to build a good deck
sry for the wall of text i just kinda went on a rambling rant
NEWAYZ check out Rhox "Rocks"
October 16, 2012 12:03 a.m.
imaginarypuppets says... #16
Its your deck and all, but adding or even just siding Sigarda, Host of Herons won't change your overall strategy of tokens, it'll just help smash control. What happens if either of your champions get killed? Control decks will see them as huge targets and will get rid of them asap. However since they can't target sigarda, you make sure that even if your champions get killed you still have a way to finish your opponent off.
October 17, 2012 6:15 p.m.
Shadowhand says... #17
Not sure what Loxodon Smiter is doing in there, as you will be casting your Champion of Lambholt or Wayfaring Temple for your 3-drop. I'd replace them with 2x Restoration Angel to help pump both Champions.
October 18, 2012 3:48 p.m.
Shadowhand says... #18
I'd also consider going -1 each on card:Druid's Deliverance and Rootborn Defenses and +2 Selesnya Charm . You gain some good abilities to fill holes in your deck (trample, large creature removal, and another token generator, though it's not human). If it were me, I'd probably drop DD all together (only prevent's combat damage dealt to you, not creatures) and go -1 Rootborn Defenses and +4 Selesnya Charm.
October 18, 2012 3:57 p.m.
Codeboy3423 says... #19
Shadowhand It's a 3 cost non-counterable 4/4 creature that does help pump Champion of Lambholt or did you misread her ability?
I personally dont want to add too many 4 cost creature in here, Yes Restoration Angel is a very good card but it seems to work its full potential work in human flicker decks than mine.
October 18, 2012 3:58 p.m.
Codeboy3423 says... #20
Shadowhand I almost for got about Selesnya Charm ..I'm definately gonna consider that thanks.
October 18, 2012 4 p.m.
Shadowhand says... #21
I didn't misread Champion, I was just saying that you already had five 3-drop cards you would play before Smiter. If you're worried about countering or discard, move it to your SB to use against control decks.
And I don't see how your deck couldn't benefit from Restoration Angel . You only have 1 other 4-drop creature, and your 2 Growing Ranks . You have 11 possible targets for the flicker that would benefit both of your champions, plus it has flash, which makes it a great blocker. It would be my choice over Smiter, but this is your deck. If there is a lot of blue or black control in your metagame, then Smiter might make better sense. :)
October 18, 2012 4:59 p.m.
Codeboy3423 says... #22
Shadowhand Yes there is a good handful of Blueblack and (cough)delver(cough) decks in my metagame.
October 18, 2012 5:40 p.m.
Codeboy3423 says... #23
Be sure to check out my other deck Rakdos Swift Aggro. That one probobly needs alot more tuning than this one
October 19, 2012 2:57 p.m.
Codeboy3423 says... #24
So far FNM wise im proud of this deck..though turns out I did misread on how populate works but it's still very good in the end ,Especially when Wayfaring Temple went 9/9 Doublestrike when paired with Silverblade Paladin .
October 20, 2012 3:31 p.m.
how did you think it worked? i knew a guy who thought you populated each token he controlled, and another one who thought he put a token of a creature into play, what did you think?
Arsene says... #1
Consider Fiend Hunter instead of, or in addition to, Oblivion Ring since you're going human anyway.
October 11, 2012 10:43 p.m.