PhyrexianAssimilator says... #2
Luckily, other than Delver, there aren't really any pure flying decks in standard at the moment (though and Lingering Souls tokens fly, and those two cards constitute a sizable chunk of the meta game.
The best thing to do about a flying weakness in my opinion is Corrosive Gale. Two or three in the sideboard should do the trick.
May 18, 2012 12:45 p.m.
I am thinking of swapping the increasing devotions for Timely Reinforcements. I am thinking of removing the law keepers and the trackers as well. But I am not sure what o replace them with. Angelic Destiny, Hero of Bladehold, and Green Sun's Zenith all seem like they would do well here swords of winning and awesomeness and cavern of souls would be good too but their price tags are a bit steep... Not yet certain what else to change but i am definitely working on it.
May 19, 2012 3 a.m.
PhyrexianAssimilator says... #4
If you can afford or Champion of Lambholt is interesting. Sword of War and Peace is also a very, very powerful card for these kinds of decks. If you can get your hands on some copies I would definitely run them.
As for switching Increasing Devotion for Timely Reinforcements, the later can really screw you against control. It has no place in the mainboard. I will recommend Gather the Townsfolk, because it makes human tokens, snugly fits into your curve, and allows for powerful plays with Champion of the Parish.
May 19, 2012 3:45 p.m.
What about life gain? Is there any good cards that would fit for that? And what about the fact that many of these cards have a cmc 4 (way more than what I would swap out), should I swap out for some mana ramp like Avacyn's Pilgrim or Birds of Paradise?
May 19, 2012 4:41 p.m.
What about Birthing Pods and some Strangleroot Geists to tutor up some Champion of Lambholt s?
May 19, 2012 5:38 p.m.
Ok new test version is up for review what do you all think?
May 19, 2012 8:42 p.m.
boston-boy says... #8
put champion of the parish and avacyn pilgrim to 4 of's and then add in some fiend hunters for control, maybe 4 depending on how bad you need to get rid of their creatures. look at mine if you want block constructed w/g
May 19, 2012 9:05 p.m.
Angelic Wall doesn't look like it's where you want to be, it does nothing in standard, I'd suggest cutting those.
Also, running 4 Champion of the Parish makes it more likely that you'll get it out on turn 1, you might want to do that, and Gather the Townsfolk looks like it could do awesome things for you, I'd run 4 of that as well.
If you need to keep off opponents' creatures, Fiend Hunter is nice, and Thalia, Guardian of Thraben does nice things against other decks, and blocks many things.
It might not even be entirely wrong to have Day of Judgment or Terminus in the sideboard.
May 19, 2012 9:05 p.m.
The angelic walls were champ last night, protecting me from both flying spirits and Stromkirk Nobles with an Angel of Jubilation out they don't even die to thunderbolts...
May 19, 2012 9:28 p.m.
PhyrexianAssimilator says... #11
Yes, if you play the 4cmc angel in addition to the puny wall he becomes invulnerable to... the all powerful (until they get a sword on it), flying tokens (until they get a sword on it), and Stromkirk Nobles, but it doesn't even kill them in return. Listen to Fibbe's advice. This card has no place in your deck.
Instead, you want cards that keep the pressure on the opponents and hope that you put them on the defensive. All of Fibbe's comment is spot on when it comes to this. I can't stress enough how powerful Thalia, Guardian of Thraben and Fiend Hunter are when forcing your opponent on the defensive, especially Thalia.
Also, about your question concerning life gain. This is another Angelic Wall situation. Life gain is irrelevant because [i]it's not going to win you the game[i]. I know this feels like saying Doom Blade is irrelevant or Birds of Paradise is irrelevant, because they don't win the game, but in reality that's not always true; sometimes killing that creature or that extra mana [i]does[i] win you the game. Life gain never does this. At best, it only prolongs loss. The only exception to this is with cards like Felidar Sovereign, that make it so life gain can win you the game. Unfortunately, none of these cards are in standard.
I think you already decided against the Birthing Pod plan. Just in case you haven't, it is a very bad idea. Birthing Pod is not a card you throw into a deck to tutor for a creature. It is a deck that warrants a whole deck built around it, and it would simply make your play clunky.
As it is, your deck is not running the most powerful cards it could be. That is, your card choice is not optimized. This is evident in the fact that you play cards like Angel of Jubilation, Angelic Wall and Elspeth Tirel. I will repeat what Fibbe said and suggest a fourth Champion of the Parish and, once again, Gather the Townsfolk. The interaction with this card, the champions, and even just a sword is awesome.
tl;dr: -4 Angel of Jubilation, -3 Angelic Wall, -3 Elspeth Tirel, +4 Gather the Townsfolk, +1 Champion of the Parish, +3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, +2 Fiend Hunter.
May 20, 2012 2:49 a.m.
Ok made the suggested changes and added Corrosive Gale and Wild Defiance for flying and burn decks respectively into the side board. What do you think now?
May 20, 2012 11:54 a.m.
Would 3 Grand Abolishers be better than the 3 Thalia, Guardian of Thrabens?
May 21, 2012 2:52 a.m.
PhyrexianAssimilator says... #14
No. Every deck casts non-creature spells while not every deck is casting a lot of instants. , so you can have something to dodge board wipes mainboard. He may not be amazing when he's transformed, but he can still hold a sword.
Also, the all non-creature sideboard could be a problem (unless you board out thalia, which I can't really see doing except against maybe zombies and the mirror). Try replacing Naturalize with Leonin Relic-Warder and Wild Defiance with Faith's Shield (still a non-creature, but its only 1 cost, 2 with thalia, rather than the potential 4 for wild defiance). Last note about the sideboard: drop an Oblivion Ring for a Ratchet Bomb. The bomb is great against tokens.
One final note, very nice play-by-play! It was concise and informative, and let me get a feel for your meta (2 red decks and only one control! What!). Though we only saw three decks, so I suppose that isn't definitive evidence. I'm sorry to hear that your record was 0-4, but with the new tweaks I'm sure you'll be much better positioned for the next FNM.
May 21, 2012 2:18 p.m.
I was looking at some similarly thought out decks an I was wondering what you guys think of Revenge of the Hunted as a kind of removal/buff. It could be used to make all of my creatures unblockable if played on Champion of Lambholt or if she isn't out yet played on a a bigger or double striking creature (thank you Silverblade Paladin and could wipe the other side of the board of a decent sized chunk of it's chump blockers and tokens.
May 22, 2012 10:32 a.m.
PhyrexianAssimilator says... #16
I think Revenge of the Hunted definitely has some potential. The main thing that turns me off about it is the 6 CC. In a deck that doesn't manipulate variance to get miracles as much as possible, you're basically only ever going to cast it for 6. Right off the bat, I feel like it's too pricey for a deck like yours that is trying to get out quick (also, with thalia, it can potentially cost 7). If all of this doesn't dissuade you from using the card, then I would test it. Maybe in the side board. A good testing session can be more helpful than advice from others, sometimes.
May 22, 2012 6:35 p.m.
So how do I choose which spells to swap out when I use the sideboard?
May 28, 2012 9:30 p.m.
i have a very similar deck if you want to check it out and get any ideas http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/what-a-champ/
May 29, 2012 11:12 p.m.
Added 2x Gavony Township s for times when my mana isn't doing anything and it is always good for a little extra buff with the token creatures. I only put in 2 to avoid messing with my mana curve. I am considering swapping some Birds of Paradise in, but am it certain what to remove for them to go in.
June 4, 2012 2:27 a.m.
Swapped a Champion of the Parish and a Gather the Townsfolk out for the 2 more fiend hunters. Then I swapped 3 card:Green Sun's Zenith for 3 card:Faith's Shield. Lastly I am testing a swap out of Revenge of the Hunted instead of Gather the Townsfolk as a versatile win condition.
June 9, 2012 10:03 a.m.
TheMadSwagger says... #21
Check out my deck You No Block (Please Comment)
I'm doing the same thing but mono green. I might change to G/W though. I would use Champion of the Parish though.
I am really dying to make this competetive. Get back to me and let's put our heads together on this please.
Ayleron says... #1
I am getting pretty nervous about my ability to stop a flying deck...
May 17, 2012 12:21 a.m.