In the Lab of the Mad Scientists

Commander / EDH* Ziembski

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WUBRG97 says... #1

Looooove this deck, +1 from here :D

I have build my own EDH Chaos deck, i used Jhoira of the Ghitu as my commander, wished i had seen the potential in this commander and the support you have found for it, might swap them out and rebuild it because i agree with you 100% that it gets boring without a win condition :)

I have some cards in my mind that could go with this decks card draw-burn theme :)

Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind: Has both the burn and the card draw going for it.

Curiosity/Ophidian Eye: You do not have a lot of creatures, so this might not be the best extra card draw, but it could go infinite with Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind.

Heartless Hidetsugu: Kinda fun making everyone lose half their life, and with either Dictate of the Twin Gods or Furnace of Rath it might kill some people.

And lastly, do you know some combos and/or win conditions that can be used in a chaos deck with Jhoira of the Ghitu as the commander, or just general combos? :)

August 21, 2017 5:04 p.m.

Ziembski says... #2

Thanks for upvoting and suggestions.

Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind might be added to maybeboard, however Im afraid that in multiplayer games he will be underwhelimng.

Curiosity and Ophidian Eye as You said, will not benefit me as much as I would like to due to lack of creatures.

Hidetsugu end games too often, which means I wont include him.

Jhoira of the Ghitu also was the commander here at the beginning,but I found that hardcasting chaos stuff is faster than suspending. Also, a lot of players expect Jhoira to drop boardwipes and Fatties and are instantly targetting me.

As I said, for Jhoira it is typical to drop boardwipes and big fatties like Eldrazi Titans at once. But for chaos... I dont really know. Best thing is that suspending goes throught Possibility Storm untouched.

August 22, 2017 9:40 a.m.

maxon says... #3

WOW talk about chaos! This deck would be so fun to have in a game. +1 from me. I'm definitely only sprinkling in chaos compared to this. I like the look of Goblin Bomb. How has that been working out for you?

August 24, 2017 3:26 p.m.

Ziembski says... #4

Thanks for the upvote maxon!

For Goblin Bomb, it is working fun, but not really as I expected. Players are actually really scared of it and often start targeting me as soon as it hit the board. Others are removing it asap but sometimes it sticks the board and it gets politicial about who shouldn't I bomb. But it is a lot of fun, pushing Chance Encounter forward.

August 25, 2017 4:09 a.m.

maxon says... #5

Oh wow. I wasn't expecting it would draw hate. One goblin runs by with a bomb and everyone freaks out. Haha I still love the flavor though, I will probably end picking one up.

August 25, 2017 5:36 p.m.

WUBRG97 says... #6

I am in the middle of rebuilding my own EDH Chaos deck replacing Jhoira of the Ghitu with Arjun, the Shifting Flame just as you did. My new chaos deck will draw a lot of inspiration from this build. Have to say i have fallen in love with this chaos build of yours wished i had seen it before building the one i have now.

But now that i am retooling the deck, i find some cards that have done some good work and thought i would list them.

Faithless Looting: Might work pretty well in this deck, it lets you draw cards and filter your selection and you can cast it later from your graveyard when you might need a trigger from Arjun, the Shifting Flame

Curse of Verbosity & Curse of Opulence: As the chaos player i often am the target for "Not making the game fun" the curses can help by giving people rewards for attacking other ones than you. The ramp is always nice in commander, also for us with our expensive hard cast cards. The blue gives card draw which will refill our hand and make a larger draw amount occur when triggering Arjun, the Shifting Flame.

Furnace of Rath: Same as Dictate of the Twin Gods 1 less mana, but no flash, just a suggestion.

Pandemonium: A pretty fun enter the battlefield trigger for every creature.

Sands of Time: Dont know how many tap abilities you have in this deck. But this card is one i really love for people always considering every tap they make during their turns.

Fatespinner: Sadly only works on our opponents, but honestly we will almost always skip combat in our turns anyway. Another fun card, can see why it wont fit but sadly its really fun.

Silent Arbiter: Good way to keep yourself alive if becoming the target, and good way to see some swarm decks becoming completely shut down. Silent Arbiter is a decent blocker itself with the 5 toughness which can keep you safe.

Illicit Auction: I think the auction cards are really fun.

Price of Glory: In my old deck there were almost no instant speed cards, there is a good amount in here so this might be a nonbo, but still worth mentioning.

Meekstone: This might be really good in this deck, you only have 7 creatures and only 3 with power greater than 2. And non of those creatures need to be untapped.

Confusion in the Ranks: Another exchange control of special types of cards.

Riptide Laboratory: This is good protection for wizards for board wipes or things like it, this effect is only protection for your commander, but it is a pretty important piece so it might be worth to consider.

Pendrell Mists: A good way to slow down your opponents big army of creatures. You will have a low amount of creatures, making it cheap for you to keep them around.

Mana Breach: Not sure how this will work, haven't really got to playtest it, but seems pretty fun.

Fevered Visions: There seem to be a little card draw theme, maybe this will be there as a small win condition or just a way to help with giving out damage.

September 2, 2017 11:46 a.m.

WUBRG97 says... #7

Ooh, Guttersnipe might be another fun include.

September 2, 2017 11:52 a.m.

WUBRG97 says... #8

And again Frenetic Sliver, could be a good blocker you might then exile and add a coin flip to the collection.

September 2, 2017 11:56 a.m.

Ziembski says... #9

Thanks Odysseus_97 for suggestions!

Faithless Looting doesnt seem to add much to the deck. I might add some draw cards, but probably in form of enchantments rather than spells.

As for CMDR2017 curses, I might try them in the future, at least the blue one. They are fun but Im not really into curses in this deck.

Furnace of Rath was replaced by Dictate due to flash. I like using it as surprise doubler, even when Im not directly involved in damage. Doubling damage also often means that Im losing faster.

Pandemonium isnt really helping me and there is always someone in my local meta that have token deck. Too risky.

Sands of Time - I was considering it. Gonna try it out for sure in the future.

Fatespinner / Meekstone / Price of Glory / Pendrell Mists and any other stax card - I dont want to go this path. While people mostly like chaos, noone likes stax and it will make me targeted I guess. At least I wont use such cards for now.

As for Silent Arbiter - I prefer Smoke much more cuz its cheaper and is enchantment. Im keeping it my "sideboard", probably going to use it from time to time.

Confusion in the Ranks it is really asymetrical for token decks. Ends with them having all better creatures.

Riptide Laboratory is expensive but might add it to bounce Arjun when needed.

Mana Breach was included in first version of this deck but it doesnt really do much.

Fevered Visions might be added as additional draw.

Guttersnipe wont really work since I dont go storm way and am not casting many spells. Typicall Arjun deck would surely use it, but its not that deck.

Frenetic Sliver may be not bad but still not worth excluding any other card that there already is in here.

Feel free to comment and ask about help with building Your deck.

September 2, 2017 1:26 p.m.

MrBronson says... #10

I REALLY ENJOY THIS DECK SO MUCH FUN CRAZED PHYSICIST IS MY ARJUN. MY MOST FAVORITE THING ABOUT THIS COMMANDER IS HOW WE GET TO PLAY THE WHOLE DECK NOT JUST TUTOR FOR SPECIAL CARDS EVERYONE ALWAYS SEES. MY FAVORITE DECKS ARE CHAOS THEMED.

September 6, 2017 8:19 p.m.

Wurmlover says... #11

Who hurt you? What horrendous traumatic life event triggered the creation of this abomination?

September 7, 2017 8:54 p.m.

Ziembski says... #12

I was born like this, Wurmlover!

Or actually it might be that guy who was Threatening my first commander deck with Kumano, Master Yamabushi as commander.

September 8, 2017 4:02 a.m.

Nice choice in music, In the Hall of the Mountain King suits this deck quite well.

September 8, 2017 4:15 a.m.

Rabid_Wombat says... #14

Upvoted! If only Burning Cinder Fury of Crimson Chaos Fire was edh legal!! :D

September 11, 2017 8:01 a.m.

Alicefoxx says... #15

This gave me AIDS.

September 12, 2017 4:14 a.m.

Ziembski says... #16

vikkifoxx and its only beginning!

I'm planning to switch to Ludevic&Smasher combo, which means is avaiable and definetly adding random discard and pain draw effects!

Just prepare for Schizophrenia...

September 12, 2017 4:26 a.m.

Rabid_Wombat says... #17

OMG with those random discard and pain draw effects added to this deck I fear for your safety....do you really hate MTG players or what? Lolz ;)

September 12, 2017 4:30 a.m.

Ziembski says... #18

It happens when... SCIENCE GONE WRONG!

But in terms of discards, I wanna keep with additional draw, also including Fevered Visions.

September 12, 2017 4:35 a.m. Edited.

Alicefoxx says... #19

Ziembski I would honestly throw my deck, deckbox, binder, dice bag, token box and playmat at your head for playing this deck.

May Avacyn have mercy on your blackened soul.

September 12, 2017 4:39 a.m.

Ziembski says... #20

vikkifoxx just make sure you don't hit YOURSELF with those!

September 12, 2017 4:41 a.m.

Jebanator says... #21

Seems fun.

September 13, 2017 11:12 a.m.

Jebanator says... #22

If allowed you should run Goblin Bookie

September 13, 2017 11:18 a.m.

Ziembski says... #23

Jebanator thanks for commenting, however I want this to be still completly legal and want to keep it low on creatures.

September 13, 2017 11:26 a.m.

raffess says... #24

Hey bro, awesome deck.

My two cents in the base of mana. I hope it helps =)

Land (40)1x Akoum Refuge1x Bloodfell Caves1x City of Brass1x Command Tower1x Crumbling Necropolis1x Darkwater Catacombs1x Dimir Aqueduct1x Dismal Backwater1x Dragonskull Summit1x Drowned Catacomb1x Evolving Wilds1x Exotic Orchard1x Forbidden Orchard1x Grand Coliseum1x Grixis Panorama1x Island1x Izzet Boilerworks1x Jwar Isle Refuge1x Lavaclaw Reaches1x Mana Confluence2x Mountain1x Rakdos Carnarium1x Shadowblood Ridge1x Shivan Reef1x Sulfur Falls1x Sulfurous Springs1x Swamp1x Swiftwater Cliffs1x Tarnished Citadel1x Temple of Deceit1x Temple of Epiphany1x Temple of Malice1x Terramorphic Expanse1x Underground River1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth1x Vivid Crag1x Vivid Creek1x Vivid Marsh1x Wandering Fumarole

September 13, 2017 4:07 p.m.

Ziembski says... #25

Thanks raffess, I will definitely keep those in mind, however few of those lands are quite pricey and it will take time until I get those.

Also, aren't Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse and Grixis Panorama just too much of fetch lands for only 4 bascis? Wilds and Expanse are dead cards if I were to draw them and basics.

September 13, 2017 5:44 p.m.

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