Clout of the Spellheart Drake

Modern* Nef

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Nef says... #1

If I use two mana to kill rhino I have to use two spells making it 2 for 1 and not 1 for 1 although my creatures may be big enough for rhino now that I think of it.

April 1, 2015 8:19 p.m.

pumpkinwavy says... #2

I'd suggest cutting Keranos, God of Storms for Izzet Charms. And maybe some Think Twices to cast at the end of their turn.

April 1, 2015 11:03 p.m.

Nef says... #3

Think Twice is good but it's still a lot of investment and lowers the power of Spellheart Chimera. If I was running Young Pyromancer I would run think twice for sure. Keranos is very powerful so I'd like to keep it if I can.

April 1, 2015 11:08 p.m.

Dr_Jay says... #4

Frostburn Weird is just... bad. There is no purpose to use it. Try a previous suggestion, or just add in 2 Monastery Swiftspears.

April 2, 2015 7:50 a.m.

Dr_Jay says... #5

PS Quicken is useless mainboard with no sorceries.

April 2, 2015 7:51 a.m.

Nef says... #6

I use it to get easy devotion. And it's useful with Clout of the Dominus I also have 10 sorcery spells mainboarded

April 2, 2015 7:54 a.m.

pumpkinwavy says... #7

The best part about Think Twice is that you can save mama for a counterspell and if they don't cast anything, then you Think Twice. I also maintain that Izzet Charm is amazing. It can even fuel your Spellheart Chimera.

April 2, 2015 8:03 a.m.

Nef says... #8

I run Quicken to take advantage of my card draw spells. I am still considering Izzet Charm. I need to do some play testing when I get the deck

April 2, 2015 8:06 a.m.

love how unique this deck is. Even though people are telling you to change it to pretty much a standard delver deck, I would vote against it. You also seem to have enough devotion to run Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx

April 2, 2015 1:06 p.m.

Nef says... #10

@firesoftheforest17 - Thank you so much for the compliment :3 I will probably skip on nyxos because I don't really need that much mana. If I was running any X spells I would consider it. Drawing the shrine early would slow down this deck more than it is worth it. Thank you for the suggestion :D

April 2, 2015 1:09 p.m.

Kre says... #11

I think I would suggest Nivix Cyclops over Riverfall Mimic. His defender is deceptive. Plus he can be an unexpected killer when defending. Play a couple instants and he's suddenly a 7/4 defender. Or, after they've tapped themselves out of attackers, pop a couple instances and put him up to 7/4 again and swing hard. Once your opponent knows what he can do, he'll always be wary of attacking you in fear of making him a monster that'll kill his attackers, or hurt his life pretty good.

April 2, 2015 3:02 p.m.

pumpkinwavy says... #12

I like the changes you made to this deck a lot! Young Pyromancer would still be amazing in this deck, even if you don't put any other delver cards in. He doesn't work as much with Clout of the Dominus though.

April 2, 2015 4:28 p.m.

Nef says... #13

Young Pyromancer will always be a good card for instant/sorcery spells. I just don't like him too much in this shell. I may make a similar deck to this one without Clout of the Dominus in it and go the route with Young Pyromancer.

April 2, 2015 4:54 p.m.

Nef says... #14

I take Riverfall Mimic because it becomes unblockable and only costs 2 mana.

April 2, 2015 4:55 p.m.

Blizzicane says... #15

Hmmm I want to make suggestions but all of them are going to lean the deck to UR Delver (unless your ok with that) which this deck shell seems to fit the best. XP

April 4, 2015 6:03 p.m.

pumpkinwavy says... #16

Idk if Pyroclasm is right for this deck. Small creatures are easy to deal with for this deck,its the bigger ones that are a challenge.

April 4, 2015 6:41 p.m.

Nef says... #17

Blizzicane - Yah I don't really want to go the delver route.. it's so darn mainstream.
pumpkinwavy - Tokens are a big thing where I am right now. That's the reason for the inclusion.

April 4, 2015 7:44 p.m.

pumpkinwavy says... #18

OK. But you still might want a side deck Roast for the hordes of five toughness dudes Siege Rhino, tasigur, anything else... And Pyroclasm is really good vs Lingering Souls, which is really important.

April 4, 2015 7:54 p.m.

Nef says... #19

Ya I may side Roast. Still not sure.

April 4, 2015 8:25 p.m.

shelldell says... #20

Hi Nef, interesting deck.

Could you tell me a bit more about your experiences with Keranos? When I look at the deck I see Keranos, a 5 drop, in a 21 land deck with relatively few permanents.. so it seems like you wouldn't see him at all until turn 7-8+, and most likely just as an enchantment, by which point the Chimera might already be buff enough to be the wincon..? Or not really? If we're working with 21 land I'd be tempted to just cap the curve at 3 or 4 CMC and use 2-3x Riverfall Mimics to go more aggro. Would you elaborate on how frequently you end up playing Keranos, on what turn vs how many turns matches usually run, how often he's actually available as a creature, the difference he makes in matches etc etc? Whatever info you'd care to share is helpful as I'm looking at crafting a similar deck. Thank you!

April 6, 2015 5:15 p.m.

Nef says... #21

@shelldell - Hello!
First things first; Keranos is amazing. With the amount of card draw we have with Serum Visions, Gitaxian Probe, and Remand I almost always get 5 lands turn 5. Remember that hybrid mana costs give two devotion. So Frostburn Weird gives 4. Clout of the Dominus gives two. 4+2=6 and then keranos gives two himself so right there he's a creature.
His impact on the game is huge. Providing either extra card draw (this also helps prevent getting a dead draw by letting us dig deeper if we get a land) or bolting every turn is insane. With the amount of control I can have he can often be the only thing on the field and wear down the opponent. Matches with this deck tend to go on for a long time. But they can be quick too. It all depends on the matchup. If they run very light control the game is pretty easy and we can get out an early Spellheart Chimera and beat their face in. If they run control we have to hold back until we know we can get out Spellheart Chimera with a Clout of the Dominus without any risks of counterspells or instant kill spells. With that being said, Keranos can be taken out and the deck could still work. He isn't essential but he makes the deck much better in my opinion.

April 6, 2015 7:50 p.m.

shelldell says... #22

Ah, fair point about the land draw. However, are you sure about the hybrid devotion?

Here is a judge blog from February 6th 2014 which very clearly walks through hybrid devotion, and if you follow the example there then Frostburn Weird gives 2, not 4, and Clout of the Dominus gives 1, not 2. Their hybrid costs are useful because they can counts towards either a Red, Blue, or Red & Blue devotion check, but it doesn't actually generate more devotion. Other discussions about this I've found have ended up at the same conclusion.

Can you link a more recent official ruling that supports the double dipping for devotion? Heh, I'd love for that to be accurate but I haven't found anything to support that.

With that in mind would you still leave him in? It sounds like yes?

April 6, 2015 8:38 p.m.

shelldell says... #23

(Frostburn Weird & Clout of the Dominus + Spellheart Chimera & Keranos, God of Storms all together would "creature-ify" Keranos, though!)

April 6, 2015 8:46 p.m.

Nef says... #24

I see a lot of controversy about the hybrid mana rule. I'm just trying to find legit rulings xD It seems your source is the best. I will do some more researching.

April 6, 2015 8:48 p.m.

Blizzicane says... #25

shelldell you are correct about the devotion rulings. From Gatherer: Your devotion to two colors is equal to the number of mana symbols that are the first color, the second color, or both colors among the mana costs of permanents you control. Specifically, a hybrid mana symbol counts only once toward your devotion to its two colors. For example, if the only nonland permanents you control are Pharika, God of Affliction and Golgari Guildmage (whose mana cost is B/GB/G), your devotion to black and green is four.

April 6, 2015 8:51 p.m.

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