Combo? Where We're Going, We Don't Need Combo

Commander / EDH Coinman1863

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Coinman1863 says... #1

PartyJ, I've been testing torment in my online lists to see how it's been going and so for it's been good at a finisher/near finisher. I took out grim tutor for it in my online lists. But otherwise, nothing else has really caught my eye.

September 4, 2017 10:23 a.m.

xLouDx says... #2

Hi i was hoping you could highlight a few wincons for the deck (some of the guys i played didnt want to concede) and is there any good replacement for nethervoid and Chains of Mephistopheles

September 22, 2017 noon

Coinman1863 says... #3

xLouDx There are two main ways to win. One is with staxing them out, so having Possessed Portal on the board for as long as possible is an example here and win with beats from there. The other is Squirrelcraft, so Earthcraft and Squirrel Nest make a kik-jiki like combo to make infinite creatures.

To answer you other question, there really isn't a replacement for them. So, I'd go with Night's Whisper for the card draw and Mind Slash for the utility.

Hope this helps!

September 22, 2017 3:40 p.m.

Lin00b says... #4

what are your usual target for chord of calling?

also, how effective is fleshbag marauder? given the large graveyard, murderous cut may be better?

September 25, 2017 12:44 p.m.

xLouDx says... #5

Lin00b i guess u are like ur name suggest. a noob. but no hate, each player vs single target? hello? sac > destroy???

September 26, 2017 8:12 a.m.

Coinman1863 says... #6

The bigger issue is not single target, it's my Naus/Bob curve can't take another 5 cmc card.

September 26, 2017 12:15 p.m.

You have 9 mana dorks, why would you play cursed totem?

October 12, 2017 8:09 a.m.

Coinman1863 says... #8

BattousaiYngwie The reason is we don't need those dorks to function for the deck to work. Also many other decks leverage their dorks a lot more heavily than ours making this card more potent against others than against us.

October 31, 2017 2:38 p.m.

Lin00b says... #9

xLouDx for a "no hate" comment it sure sounds condescending. sure, its multi-target and its sac effect, but its also untargeted, and will more often than not miss your intended target

Coinman1863 fair point that Murderous Cut cmc makes it a painful flip to bob effects. but still there are cards like Go for the Throat, Slaughter Pact, Putrefy, etc that is low cmc yet deliver that surgical removal.

I'm also curious about your chord of calling target. what do you usually tutor out? how is chord performing for you?

November 11, 2017 10:44 a.m.

Bezter says... #10

Liliana's Caress could be good, get the most value from the discards. Shrieking Affliction is a bit hard to get off but possibly worth it.

Strionic Resonator would definitely be worth it. Copy the discard trigger from Nath, make someone discard two cards or have two people discard a card. You get 2 Elf tokens either way!

December 3, 2017 11:16 a.m.

Ender666666 says... #11

Beautiful Commander alter.... is it by Kevin Altered?

January 24, 2018 5:42 p.m.

Coinman1863 says... #12

Ender666666 Yep it is!

January 24, 2018 11:38 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #13

Sweet. His stuff is so good

January 24, 2018 11:54 p.m.

Folize says... #14

Where can I contact the artist that did your alter? I would love something similar. Currently getting this awesome list together. Would you recommend a replacement for nether void? I currently don't own that one :/

February 13, 2018 10:24 p.m.

Coinman1863 says... #15

Folize, if you look up Kevin Altered on facebook you can contact him through his facebook page. I assume that's the one you meant instead of all the other ones I have.

February 14, 2018 10:44 a.m.

ShaDoWz_6677 says... #16

@Coinman1863 How do you feel about Gate to Phyrexia? I was considering using it in my Nath Stax. I wanted to get your opinion of the card. We can then chain it into Volrath's Stronghold to get said creature back off the sac outlet.

February 15, 2018 11:50 p.m.

SurpriZe says... #17

Hi Coinman1863, great deck! I'm really enjoying it so far. What do you think of replacing something with Awakening Zone/Reassembling Skeleton/Bloodghast? Or do you believe there are enough ways to produce bodies as it is?

February 25, 2018 11:09 a.m.

Manalito says... #18

Hi Coinman! Why are you not playing Leyline of the Void? Maybe because of your meta?

March 16, 2018 2:01 a.m.

Coinman1863 says... #19

Well, Lets get started.

SurpriZe, That more or less is excessive as only having a body exclusively as a creature meant for sacrificing feels really bad overall. The cards should be doing more than that anyway at least in a cEDH setting.

Manalito, partly because of the meta and partly because there isn't space for anything that fat. If you wanted a similar effect, Grafdigger's Cage would be better in the slot due to the CMC. Otherwise, many of the other stax pieces cover how the GY decks can win, they just don't hit the GY itself.

Hope this all helps!

March 23, 2018 11:03 p.m.

Manalito says... #20

Hi Coinman, yes it does! Thanks!

March 24, 2018 8:26 p.m.

Just curious, why aren't you running a Crucible of Worlds? Wouldn't that be useful in this build, or do you consider it a dead card?

March 26, 2018 4:32 a.m.

PartyJ says... #22

What is your stance on Arena of the Ancients?

I added it to my build for testing purposes lately. But so far I didn't see it into action. Perhaps its a metacall?

March 26, 2018 5:17 a.m.

Over-Khan says... #23

What are your thoughts on Damping Sphere that will be printed in Dominaria?

March 26, 2018 6:49 p.m.

Winther says... #24

I gotta say I like this. I like it a lot. Im curious why you dont run cards like Smokestack though? Dosnt fit the theme? Or does it go against what you're attempting to set up?

Oh, and +1 for sure for the primer you wrote. Great job!

April 10, 2018 3:32 p.m.

Is this deck mainly good in singles or multiplayer?

April 19, 2018 2:37 a.m.

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