I kind of agree with Delta-117. It really just depends on how much countermagic you want vs removal. If you get to pull off Cyclonic Rift with the overload (and really, in commander, when shouldn't you?), with the hoard of slivers you run, that would be a game-ender for at least one opponent. I think you should go with the Rift.

Okay, another question - should I swap out Mutavault for Volrath's Stronghold?

Yeah I think it has more usefulness, the capability to bring back a multitude of useful cards beats out having a a creature I think. However maybe there could be room for both still, but I'm not too sure of what would have to be taken out to do that.

Since you brought up Volrath's Stronghold, that reminded me of the card Wheel of Sun and Moon which I suggest you consider using here if you can find room. If your slivers die they rather go to the bottom of your graveyard where they can be easily tutored for again by your commander.

I just happened to think of this card because you mentioned Volrath's Stronghold and all which is of course a way to recur things from the graveyard and this I think would be a good addition here either in place of that land or in addition to it.

Delta-117 Wheel of Sun and Moon is an interesting card but I have the option of using Pulmonic Sliver for that. Sure, WoSaM is cheaper cmc wise, it's not tutorable and kind of one dimensional serving as ONLY a form of graveyard recursion for creatures. All of the recursion in this deck is multipurpose - allowing me to return multiple creatures at once, or letting me play anything I want in my graveyard. Volrath's Stronghold is interesting because it's also a manasource, but i'm only considering it. I think i'll get it later on down the road. For now, i'm going to start working on the deck page for Moskstraumen my new Yidris deck. Check it out when you get a chance. It's still in it's rough stages though.

Dude... this deck is amazing... im realy jealous.

And how on earth did you create this deck page??

Lucky_Dutch, thanks for the compliment. It took me a -long- time, favors, and lots of ebay deals to get this monstrosity assembled. Also, my fiancee (will be wife come this Sunday!) got me the most amazing deck box- refer to "the queen's egg". How'd I create this deck page? CSS. So, it's kind of an unofficial "feature" of the site. Basically the great ones who run this will tolerate us customizing our deck pages if we do it responsibly. If you want to do it, you have to:

1. Not do things half-assed. You will make mistakes, just make sure you're willing to spend the time to fix them.
2. Read over the directions thoroughly.
3. Ask questions. There's a coding forum.

If you're willing to do those three things, then customizing a deck page would be for you.

Congrats on youre engagement!!

The next thing is to upgrade the mana base of my deck.I whas thinking to add more fetch but i'm not sure thats the way to go..

Why you arent playing Thorncaster Sliver? its works really well with Venom Sliver.

Hey Pozo2212,

So Thorncaster Sliver came across my radar sometime ago, and my reasons for not including are thus - for a 2/2 that can deal potentially 3 points of damage in a given turn is lackluster. Terrible. Not worth the mana. Additionally, there are plenty of other slivers that cost (in varying colors) that are just plain better - Brood Sliver the Legendary Slivers and Synapse Sliver just to name a few. It's synergy with Venom Sliver is nice and all, but that's the only card let alone sliver it'd have any actual synergy with. To make it more viable, i'd have to include Toxin Sliver as well, but i'd prefer to keep my current line up. tl:dr - it's CMC is too high for what good it actually does.

What about Vizier of the Manegerie, volrathz's stronghold, descendants path, and why u removed scroll Rack?

• Vizier of the Menagerie is not a sliver, and therefore does not belong in the hive.

• Volrath's Stronghold, I am considering. I do need additional graveyard recursion outside of Yawgmoth's Will and Patriarch's Bidding. What land do you think I should swap out for it? I'm considering swapping out Mutavault, but removing it would be removing another Sliver.

• Descendants' Path I considered, but ultimately deemed it unnecessary. This deck is pretty fast, and once Paradox Engine hits the field, I can end up playing every single sliver in my library if I have enough slivers in play.

• Why did I remove Scroll Rack? It's not removed. I simply upgraded to the masterpiece version of it. It's under Legacy Catalysts.

Question, do you know how to tag cards? If not, please check out this page for help. It makes it easier on the reader when they can just hover their mouse of the card, as opposed to having to look it up. Thanks!

Yeah I know how to tag,sry for that...Volrath's Stronghold: I think u should add it for Mutavault. The hate for the hive is too damm high.

About Paradox Engine its fcking awsome but you cant relay only that. Seedborn Muse isnt a sliver too, Thats why I play the Vizier of the Menagerie, has great sinergy with Descendants' Path and Sensei's Divining Top also if u add the Volrath's Stronghold has another sinergy

Pls check out my Sliver deck list, http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/slivers-time/ it would be great that you can feedback me! Thnx in adv!

Pozo2212, i'll gladly help you out with your deck. BTW, you can link your deck by using:

[[deck:slivers-time]]

If you changed the name of your deck, it'll always have the original name you gave it And if you were to advertise your deck, then use:

[[deck-large:slivers-time]]

Ixalan has been leaked somewhat, and now there's actually been more cards spoiled for September's set than there has been for the one less than 2 weeks away...

Found this card you might like. It's a rare enchantment that costs 2.

"As Arcane Adaptation enters the battlefield, choose a creature type.

Creatures you control are the chosen type in addition to their other types. The same is true for creature spells you control and creature cards you own that arent on the battlefield."

This means if you wanted you could use something like Seedborn Muse which is now actually tutorable if you wanted to.

This deck is awesome, Im using this deck as my main deck. Im really interested. But maybe you would consider some card like:Diffusion Sliver

Virulent Sliver

Root Sliver

Darkheart Sliver

Frenetic Sliver

Delta-117, thanks for keeping me in the loop regarding spoilers. Arcane Adaptation has my curiosity, but it's synergy (at least to me) seems too niche to be useful in this deck. If this deck incorporated alot of non-slivers, then I could see a potential use for it. Additionally, Vanquisher's Banner also has my curiosity. It reminds me of Coat of Arms. Arcane Adaptation is not a must include, but it is interesting.

But what has my attention is the announcement of a return to Dominaria, the current home to Slivers according to MTG lore. That guarantees we will be getting more of our favorite hive-minded tribe come 2018. If they reveal any Sliver Planeswalker(s) I'll be getting two of each, in foil. Who am I kidding? I'll likely acquire all the slivers from that set in foil as well.

Pypoh, welcome to the hive. Thanks for commenting on the page, and thanks for the compliments. So you're interested in building your own Queen's Egg, hm? Well are you building a paper copy, or on MTGO? If you're building a paper copy, then I'll give you some advice - try your best to get involved with an MTG community, and try and buy cards directly from individuals. Maybe see if you can perhaps help with odd jobs and etc to get a discount on some cards? That helped me out some. Additionally, check out the Hivestone > Other Information > Building this Deck section. It'll give you an idea for how much some of the more expensive lands costs. Try and get your deck for less than what I paid!

In regards to Diffusion Sliver, it used to be in this deck, but the problem was that if someone wanted to remove a sliver, then they could easily pay the extra . Due to the nature of the format...mana is kind of a non-issue in EDH/Commander. So in closing - Diffusion Sliver's ability is moot, because the opponent can easily pay the tax that protects your slivers. As for your other card suggestions:

• Virulent Sliver - Having to attack your opponent with 10 individual instances of Poison is difficult, and ultimately kind of pointless. If you're going to hit your opponent 10 times, then they should be dead shortly before then. It's an interesting back up plan though, and I could see a reason for it's inclusion- but definitely not a primary wincon strategy.

• Root Sliver - Depends HIGHLY upon your group's meta. If you have a EDH player who is just counter-happy, then Root is definitely a must include. I personally don't encounter too many counter heavy decks, so I'd prefer to rely on Cavern of Souls

• Darkheart Sliver - Also was in this deck once, it's a decent creature, and a good response to a boardwipe. The primary use I found for it was an additional sac outlet for Dormant Sliver. I'd consider it's ability a bit too niche to be useful in more than one situation.

• Frenetic Sliver - This one was also once apart of the hive. Uhm...it's kind of in the same slot as Darkheart Sliver in that it's primary use was a response to boardwipe events. However, it's ability can be useful when a sliver is going to die...and you have no options for regeneration. Basically when blocking or attacking with a sliver you'd use Frenetic's ability right before it enters the graveyard - you could potentially save the sliver and maintain board presence. Unfortunately it's ability is inherently inconsistent, but interesting nonetheless. I wouldn't include it however, given that there are so many options for regeneration.

Sorry that response got a little long, but yeah. A pleasure hearing from you both.

Yeah I figured it might be a bit too niche, but I just thought I would point it out as well so it was on your radar.

I also heard of that return to Dominaria, it will be the next set after the later set Rivals of Ixalan (January 19) so that means its in April on the 27th. I was never around for the first time to this plane as I had only started at Theros, but i'm definitely excited at the hope of possible slivers again. By the time Dominaria is around my current standard deck will have rotated in it's entirety and so maybe I can finally have a chance at playing some slivers in standard too!

(Only started playing standard with BFZ so I missed the slivers in the core sets 2014-2015).

im working on my own sliver deck, i really like slivers lots of fun. but i was wandering what Paradox Engine is used for. its really high on up edhrec as well.

3InchMeatMonster, welcome to the hive. I'd be glad to answer your question. I just want to start off saying that Paradox Engine is incredibly good for Slivers because when combined with Gemhide Sliver/Manaweft Sliver + Heart Sliver you can effectively play your entire deck and end the game. Here's a play by play of a game ending scenario:

Turn 4 -

tl:dr - with Paradox Engine+Manaweft Sliver+Heart Sliver you play all your slivers, draw alot of cards, and kill everything.

oh shit thats a good combo. i will have to pick up a Paradox Engine then. thanks for the extremely informative answer

I don't think it has been mentioned yet, but Intruder Alarm has a similar effect to Paradox Engine.

jplvette, welcome to the hive. Thank you for visiting the page. To answer your question, yes Intruder Alarm has been mentioned before. My conclusion regarding the card has not changed - It has far too much potential to backfire to be considered useful. Cards like Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Stonybrook Schoolmaster, and Lullmage Mentor (just to name a few) are all lurking out there in EDH. Since the card can be taken advantage of by anyone at the table I could unknowingly enable someone else's wincon. Therefore, the card is just invalid in my eyes. But for more, (and less ) I can keep that potentially game ending effect all to myself - enter Paradox Engine.

tl:dr - Intruder Alarm can easily backfire and lose me the game automatically. It's not worth it.

Ruffigan, I took your comments into account. Just wish you posted them on my deckpage. I changed the .navbar-fixed-top transparency (only made it slightly transparent) -enough so that the reader can easily differentiate between the comments section and the words themselves. I also took things one step further and lowered the brightness of all the words in the comment section, so that they'd be easier on the eyes. What do you think?

It feels like a bit of a shame that the deck has little room for growth. At least in my opinion. When it plays, it plays like a well oiled machine. All I do at this point is watch each new set for any cards that could help enhance or add to the deck. I'm hoping Ixalan or Commander 2017 will yield something worthwhile.