The Queen's Egg

Commander / EDH Mortlocke

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Mortlocke says... #1

  • Name: Delta-117, a few corrections to "Blitz Sliver" - so the name itself seems a little too , let's go with Voidsphere Sliver (void being a reference to Voidslime, and sphere being a reference to a naturally occurring pattern in nature.) The idea of the name is to convey that when this sliver hits the field, it will deny the enemy a resource. A place where their abilities simply won't work. Maybe the flavor text can reflect this.

  • Cost: I want to keep the cost at as opposed to your . This thing's CMC needs to be relatively low to keep it a viable card even outside of a Sliver deck. Think Harmonic Sliver. Making the CMC too high will make this sliver rather lackluster.

  • Power/Toughness: So this is where the card makes concessions for its insane ability. It'll be a 0/1. Basically this card is the epitome of a min-maxed character.

  • Abilities/Rules text: The meat and potatoes: 1. Flash, 2. When you cast this creature, you may counter target spell. 3. You may play Sliver cards as though they had flash, 4. Whenever you cast a Sliver card, you may counter target spell. This card takes some inspiration from Quick Sliver and Harmonic Sliver's abilities, but with more of a control focus.

  • Rarity: This sliver must be nothing short of Mythic rarity, and since it'll likely be one of the poster children for this fictional Sliver set, it'll get the full art promo treatment and everything. I predict this card will join Harmonic Sliver in terms of monetary value as I see this card getting use outside of Sliver decks.

  • Pros/Cons/Balancing: So, I see this card as definitely being a "terror" on the board...a big key threat that needs to be dealt with, immediately. Is it too powerful? Maybe. But the idea is that it's supposed to harken to a time of old when Slivers were designed to be downright oppressive like in Legions...ahh...what a good time to play magic. The last two instances of slivers were just...bad executions in my opinion, but i'm always grateful for slivers. Perhaps a less nasty version of this sliver would be "4. Whenever you cast a Sliver card, you may pay to counter target spell." But personally, I like the "play a sliver, counter a spell." Its about time the slivers acquired their own Jace, the Mind Sculptor level broken card.

So there, that's my dream sliver splayed out. What do you think Delta-117? Too oppressive?

March 9, 2018 10:58 a.m. Edited.

Mortlocke says... #2

After thinking a bit more about it, I think the "4. Whenever you cast a Sliver card, you may pay to counter target spell." is the better way to go. Maybe the original idea is a bit too broken. Let's go with "4. Whenever you cast a Sliver card, you may pay to counter target spell." I think that's balanced. Unfortunately, it won't be as broken as i'd love it to be, but for Voidsphere Sliver to be a fair card (as fair as it can be anyway) it'd need to have a real cost to use it's ability. We'll also make it a 1/1. So basically, this:

Voidsphere Sliver

March 9, 2018 1:38 p.m. Edited.

OP_Sigma says... #3

Hey LVL_666!I'm kinda playing the poor man's version of your deck. Im using the exact same slivers for my tests, there's only Bonesplitter Sliver that I'm not sure aboud. Huge fan of Quick Sliver.

I only own Scrubland and Savannah, plus Im still mising Scalding Tarn and Marsh Flats. Been usingKrosan Verge instead.

I use Growing Rites of Itlimoc instead of Gaea's Cradle.

Memory Lapse instead of Disallow. I really like the 2 mana instead of 3, plus its pretty tempo.

And I'm running Rhystic Study and Land Tax just in case.

Plus, I just bought Vampiric bloodlust deck to have vanilla games. I'll have to playtest Teferi's Protection .

March 10, 2018 3:40 p.m.

DiabeticFire says... #4

OP_Sigma, I also am running a poor man's version of LVL_666's deck. As someone in the same camp, I wanted to bounce some ideas off of you.

I also have found Bonesplitter Sliver to be an underperformer, and have very seriously considered replacing it with Sentinel Sliver. I find that when I am not comboing out (my meta is really low power level, so I try not to do that too often), vigilance is a really helpful keyword to have. What say you?

I have yet to run Growing Rites of Itlimoc in any of my decks. What are your thoughts on it?

I find the flexibility of Disallow to be phenomenal. It is not too expensive and I would highly suggest you try it yourself for a few games.

Is Land Tax good in a five color deck? For that matter, I don't run it my selesnya deck with ~20 basic lands. I feel like you can find something stronger.

I love this deck so much! I'm so upset we don't get more toys in the upcoming set.

March 10, 2018 5:03 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #5

OP_Sigma, DiabeticFire, always a joy to have you commenting. Bonesplitter Sliver, is...whelming. While it's not the greatest option in the deck, it can be useful sometimes like when you need to beef up your slivers to make yourself a less appealing target or when I've got Mana Echoes in play, and need a one color sliver to try and combo off on to have enough mana to play something else. Honestly, it's on the chopping block for when new slivers are produced. My hope is that we'll see some in the next core set. Sentinel Sliver was in this deck, but I think it was cut to make room for Swan Song. I think I may experiment and swap Bonesplitter Sliver for Sentinel Sliver.

As for Teferi's Protection, I'm currently experimenting with it. I have a revolving card slot between that, Swan Song (which is the current placeholder), and Damnation. I don't know which to really settle on. I think the next list of slivers produced will ultimately decide what i'll go with.

March 11, 2018 5:25 p.m. Edited.

FlamingoBrown says... #6

Great stuff here

March 21, 2018 3:57 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #7

FlamingoBrown, thanks for the compliment and +1. One day i'll surpass the great professor of TolarianCommunityCollege as the highest rated Sliver deck of tapped out. His deck is a great starting point though, as I got some good ideas from his deck.

March 21, 2018 5:28 p.m.

FlamingoBrown says... #8

You are welcome. I love how you explain how stuff works in your deck and keep it updated. Very detailed.

March 22, 2018 6:54 a.m.

FlamingoBrown says... #9

What are your thoughts about Acidic Sliver?

March 22, 2018 9:46 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #10

My thoughts on Acidic Sliver? Well, it's for a 2/2 which is okay, but it's ability is...so so at best. Especially when you have the likes of Necrotic Sliver who is seen as strictly better for a slightly higher cost. Acidic Sliver would be a good sac outlet for the infinite mana/creature Sliver Queen + Mana Echoes combo though. While you won't be able to swing with any of your infinite 1/1's on the turn you create them, you could just sacrifice them all to kill your opponents. In that specific instance, I could see it's usefulness - but it just doesn't have the flexibility to be a worthy addition, at least in my opinion.

What are your thoughts FlamingoBrown? Do you have a rebuttal?

March 22, 2018 10:43 a.m. Edited.

FlamingoBrown says... #11

I agree with you. Acidic Sliver is kinda a one trick pony while you can have a lot more flex with Necrotic Sliver just paying 1 more mana. Thank you for explaining :)

March 22, 2018 11:18 a.m.

k_drake says... #13

Made an account just so i could comment. This deck has became a personal gem for me. It's simple goes with my play style and its 5 colors. It has a swing wide aspect which i perfectly love. Pretty much it can do anything. Only issue is that i don't ever think i will be able to own this deck. The pricing is so insane it makes me cry. D: Any ideas on making it somewhat budget so i can build on it overtime.

April 2, 2018 9:39 p.m.

_Delta_ says... #14

Glad to see your a fan of the wonderous hive also k_drake. I also happen to have a Sliver Overlord deck of my own, although mine is still a lot cheaper. Keep in mind however that LVL_666 has also chosen to bling out this deck nearly entirely, and thus the price you see on here is much more than what it would could actually be with a non-foil, non-masterpiece/expedition version of the decklist.

The first and most obvious things to avoid would be the original duals, (i.e Underground Sea, Volcanic Island, Tropical Island etc...), next you make do without Mana Crypt, Cavern of Souls, Wheel of Fortune, Yawgmoth's Will, and Mana Drain which should bring the deck down by a huge margin.

There's is such a vast amount of lands to choose from that could be suitable early on, including: the vivid cycle (Vivid Crag, Vivid Grove), the tri-lands (Seaside Citadel, Savage Lands, Jungle Shrine, and so on), then there's ones I use to use like Transguild Promenade, Exotic Orchard, Forbidden Orchard, Rupture Spire, Evolving Wilds / Terramorphic Expanse, Ash Barrens (highly recommend), and the panorama cycle (Bant Panorama, Jund Panorama, Esper Panorama, etc).

You can then make use out of the signets, Golgari Signet, Izzet Signet, etc) and perhaps use most of the combinations (prioritize the ones that have green). Anyways I know I have told you a Lot of information to read and consider, and so let me give you a good visual of what a starting point could look like:


A Study In Slivers: Toolkit Sliver Commander

Commander / EDH TolarianCommunityCollege

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This deck by the Professor I do recommend you consider as a base, and from there start as I have done, which was slowly acquire all the slivers (and imo minus the queen, and legion at least at first), I actually was quite fortunate to receive most of the slivers needed for my list from a friend who had their very own Sliver Overlord deck and he sold/traded me eventually most of it as he was getting out of commander. I picked up stuff like Gemhide Sliver, Manaweft Sliver, Necrotic Sliver, Harmonic Sliver, Heart Sliver, Galerider Sliver and Crystalline Sliver if I recall first by cash and standard trades.

Then I got a few things like a Chromatic Lantern, Merciless Eviction, Heartstone, and Training Grounds for more additions. Eventually I started with getting the shocks and fetches (the khans fetches are cheaper) again the cheaper ones like Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothills, Temple Garden, Overgrown Tomb, Hallowed Fountain, and worked my way up having more than half of them (I'm currently only missing 3 fetches and 3 shocklands).

I got my Sliver Queen and Sliver Legion from the same friend who took apart his sliver list (it's unfortunate he sold it's entire manabase and then just kept the slivers before I even met him at my lgs though), after I had all the rest of the creatures and up until that point I focused more on an aggro/voltron strategy. I bought him some very pricey modern staples (2x Chalice of the Void before there reprint and traded an Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger for these 2 slivers and to nearly finish a whole deck to play for modern :)

You can then later like i'm soon about to do myself soon I think, start to buy things like a Mana Crypt, Mana Drain, Demonic Tutor, Wheel of Fortune, etc to make the deck more competitive.To give you an idea where i'm at, here's my decklist (I'm missing 16 cards in all from it) also that's cheaper than what you see here:


Sliver Overlord EDH

Commander / EDH* Delta-117

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I did not exactly plan on writing essentially a book on this for you lol, and so I apoligize. In summary start by acquiring if you don't already own any these above suggested lands, and start acquiring all the slivers you can, I recommend get ones like Sliver Hivelord, Diffusion Sliver and or Crystalline Sliver, Blur Sliver, Gemhide Sliver + Manaweft Sliver, Bonescythe Sliver, Syphon Sliver, Heart Sliver, Harmonic Sliver, Galerider Sliver + Winged Sliver, and others like Predatory Sliver, Sinew Sliver, Muscle Sliver all of which are pretty cheap. Then you will want Chromatic Lantern, plenty of signets, Darksteel Ingot, Commander's Sphere, Fellwar Stone, maybe the newly reprinted Coalition Relic which is a bit cheaper now. Then start upgrading the manabase(Mana Confluence, City of Brass, Unclaimed Territory, Sliver Hive, Ancient Ziggurat are all a good start. Then go with maybe getting the filterlands which thankfully have been reprinted and are now a lot cheaper,(Flooded Grove, Twilight Mire,...) and the shocks/fetches prioritizing the ones for green like Breeding Pool, Overgrown Tomb, Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothills because you will want green I would say more than any of your colours to cast stuff like Manaweft Sliver + Gemhide Sliver, Kodama's Reach/Rampant Growth/Cultivate etc. Once you have most if not all of the slivers and the mana base then you can go back to refining the deck with medium to high end upgrades like Mana Crypt, Volrath's Stronghold, Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Pact of Negation, and such. Personally in my case i'm refraining from the original duels for budget reasons myself as I can't ever see myself getting enough use out of them to make them worth it fully. Anyways I hope this gives you lots to think about!

(Final note), consider Spirit of Resistance at least initially if you think you can either protect it with counterspells or in a meta where enchantment removal won't be an issue :)

April 2, 2018 11:06 p.m.

_Delta_ says... #15

Well that is lame, I typed out another 9+ lines and I go to "preview your comment" and it asked me to sign back in... In summary k_drake I was saying I meant to add that you should early on acquire a Paradox Engine which i'm sure you can figure out why if you look at your commander + Gemhide Sliver / Manaweft Sliver / Cryptolith Rite(buy this one in addition to the slivers for redundancy due to lacking many tutors, among other cards) And Heart Sliver / Blur Sliver.

Also acquire Cascading Cataracts. Let me know if you have any other questions and i'm sure I or someone else can give you help. But additionally consider checking the website edhrec.com if your not already familiar for average sliver decklists.

April 2, 2018 11:28 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #16

k_drake, sorry about taking so long to respond to you! That was an awesome compliment, thank you. As you can tell I spent way too much time building this deck page, and way too much money building this deck :P In truth, I got lucky with most of these cards...then I basically dipped my pinky toe into the creepy creepy world of MTG: Finance and Investment. Only enough to get the masterpieces I wanted at a sane price. Delta-117 was absolutely right in his advice and assessment of the true cost of this deck. You really don't have to pay that much to build a deck based off of this model, as the majority of the cost is really the manabase. However, please allow me to add my two cents- here are some alternative land choices that have alot of synergy and are a fraction of the cost:

  • The Mirage Fetchlands: Honestly, these are the 2nd best fetchlands in all of MtG. With these you can find Basics, but at the same time you can find any of the Non-basic lands with a land "type".

  • Shock Lands: Probably the most expensive option for typed lands outside of Original Duals. These average at about $10.00 to $20.00.

  • Battle Lands: These are probably the most affordable of the typed lands, running between $3.50 and $6.00 bucks. In addition to these you must run basics, but yeah...these are at a great price point. Even better is that if you're feeling spendy, you can get an expedition for about $20 to $30 on average each. There is one big drawback here though, the cycle isn't complete.

  • Dual Colored Cycling Lands: So, these are not quite as great as the previously mentioned as they will always come in tapped no matter what. The only real boon here is that you can cycle them. These are also at a pretty decent price point as well, averaging at about $2.50 or more each due to them still being in standard. If you have some already, then include them. If not, I wouldn't go out my way to acquire any of these. Unfortunately, these are also an incomplete cycle.

Those are all the lands I could name off the top of my head. Delta-117, did I miss anything? As for other parts and pieces, i'll give some more consideration to those, and write on them later. Hope this helps!

April 5, 2018 4:31 p.m. Edited.

Mortlocke says... #17

Additional note k_drake, for my prices I went with ebay. Sure, a lot of people tend to steer clear of the place, but if you know what to look for in card quality then it's easy to spot the fakes. However, places like Card Kingdom, TCGPlayer, and Cardshark are viable options as well. Even better, you don't have to worry (as much) about cards being fake. They have more robust systems in place to prevent fakes from being sold in the first place.

April 5, 2018 4:44 p.m.

k_drake says... #18

Thanks for all the feedback. I will most definitely will try to build a sliver deck. I have been playing it on xmage and absolutely love it. I haven't mastered much except for summoning every monster in my deck with a billion tokens but I know it can do so much more. I will easily take your advice as magic can quite literally steal away all your money.

April 8, 2018 11:35 a.m.

How do you protect against board wipe and i am guessing if something like merciless eviction happens its gg?

April 29, 2018 1:08 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #20

Hey DarkSteelDemon, thanks for commenting on the page. You reminded me to actually keep this thing updated. So if a boardwipe even were to occur, I have both counterspells and Sliver Hivelord. Giving me a grand total of 7 individual cards that can help me out in that regard. Now, if a simple boardwipe were to go through, then I have 3 recursion options built in, specifically: Patriarch's Bidding, Yawgmoth's Will, and Volrath's Stronghold. BUT, what if someone were to play Merciless Eviction naming creatures? The only option in the deck is to not let it happen by using the counterspells in the deck. That would limit me to just 6 individual cards.

Now that Dominaria is out, what options do you think would be good for this deck?

April 29, 2018 10:28 a.m.

_Delta_ says... #21

Im not sure I see anything you would want for this deck with Dominaria LVL_666. Theres Helm of the Host but thats a lot of mana to cast and equip to anything, besides that theres Gilded Lotus, Blackblade Reforged which could make Sliver Overlord even stronger I guess but Im not sure if thats worth an inclusion here just for that one reason. Then the only other thing I see is Damping Sphere? Im not fully sure of what sees play in your meta but this could be useful perhaps?

If only Shalai, Voice of Plenty was a sliver though :(

April 29, 2018 10:40 a.m.

_Delta_ says... #22

However it should be noted Damping Sphere could however maybe affect your deck too if you were to try anything that included Paradox Engine, along with your commander, Gemhide Sliver/Manaweft Sliver to Tutor and repeatedly search up and play more Slivers?

April 29, 2018 10:43 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #23

"If only Shalai, Voice of Plenty was a sliver though :("

Indeed, Delta-117. Indeed. Despite what you listed I did see some potential in Dominaria for interesting inclusions. I do have some thoughts on what Dominaria may hold for this deck, and have been meaning to make a post about it, expect to see something shortly.

April 29, 2018 1:23 p.m.

_Delta_ says... #24

After looking at the whole set this time rather than just off memory, the only other cards I thought of were Primevals' Glorious Rebirth (only viable targets though are sliver queen and legion though?), Fall of the Thran, and Phyrexian Scriptures.

April 29, 2018 2:06 p.m.

One good suggestion i have from Dominaria would be Song of Freyalise

April 29, 2018 3:41 p.m.

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