The Queen's Egg

Commander / EDH Mortlocke

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cabbagemaster says... #1

I love sliver's and only want to point out a combo you already have. Sliver Queen+Basal Sliver+Gemhide Sliver+Heart Sliver+Sliver Overlord Infinite mana, infinite sliver's. Win.

November 6, 2015 8:13 p.m.

Quicksilver says... #2

you can achieve infinite slivers easier with Basal Sliver + Sliver Queen + Training Grounds .

November 6, 2015 9:43 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #3

Silly Quicksilver, the easiest infinity combo in this deck is Sliver Queen + Mana Echoes.

November 8, 2015 12:19 a.m.

Guminion says... #4

Nice humble brag, but you need to upgrade your landbase to come even close to "Most expensive Sliver deck" A guy at my LGS runs all 10 duals and and fetches, and the decks slivers are foiled out.

November 10, 2015 10:08 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #5

Fair enough Guminion. Fair enough. I'm working on getting at least one! Those original duals are brutally expensive, but a friend of mine who no longer plays (hasn't played in nearly a decade) has some in storage. Just gotta convince him to give em' up.

November 10, 2015 1:44 p.m.

ThisIsBullshit says... #6

Lol if you get lands off him send some to me :D

Cool deck! +1

November 11, 2015 2:23 p.m.

TeraInferno says... #7

Like the Deck. +1

It is similar to a Sliver deck I put together: Slivers: Swarmed by the HivePlease take a look if you can.

For you deck, I would consider running Crucible of Worlds. You are using a decent number of fetch lands that crucible could allow you to reuse as needed. You might want to also take a look at the manabase of my sliver deck. I have not yet had any major issues with mana with it.

Another card to consider would be Purphoros, God of the Forge. With infinite slivers, your combo will kill all opponents in one go. It is also potentially at instant speed, thus avoiding the chance that an opponent can disrupt it as they could via combat damage.

November 17, 2015 2:27 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #9

@ BainbridgeYew thanks for your comments, however I don't intend to lower the cost of the deck through lands. To be frank, I have pretty much all of the cards save a majority of the lands. I decided to opt for the Zendikar duals because they're pretty much the closest thing to a legit Dual Land i'll ever get. Thanks for your suggestions though. Oh, and as for Ancient Ziggurat, It's a great card, but I just don't see it being all that useful as I will need it for a whole lot more.

November 29, 2015 8:36 p.m.

enpc says... #10

So a few things, firstly do you mean "wrath", not "rath"?

Secondly, you'd be much better off running Sliver Queen as your commander over Sliver Overlord. Yes, I know the argument about how you can tutor her up but here's the thing, you run ZERO redundancy on her and only 3 counterspells to protect her. On top of that, you have to waste an entire turn tutoring her. However, if you run her as commander you have the redundancy of being able to recast her.

You're much better off relying on tutors like Demonic Tutor, Wargate, Chord of Calling, Vampiric Tutor, Enlightened Tutor, Bring to Light, etc. To get your combo pieces. It also means you can run cards like Ashnod's Altar,Purphoros, God of the Forge and impact tremors which means you win on the spot.

You need mote ramp. Currently you have next to none which is bad. Nature's Lore, Farseek, Kodama's Reach, Cultivate, Skyshroud Claim, etc which all help you speed up your combo.

You need either more counterspells or to cut them completely. 3 is not enough for them to be reliable. Most control decks run anywhere between 8 and 15. This is done so that the chances of actually having one when you need it is high.

This is a start at least, however there is more tuning than just that that you can do to the deck.

January 26, 2016 2:44 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #11

Thank you for the response enpc. The "Rath" references "The Sliver Lair" where the Sliver Queen once lived. So Rath and Wrath is kind of a double meaning. Anyway, I'm thinking I may go with adding more Counter, and definitely more More mote ramp. Currently there is just Kodama's Reach in there, so I'm thinking of swapping out Root Sliver for a Nature's Lore or Farseek. As for swapping queen for overlord...i'll see how the deck plays currently, then swap the two.

January 26, 2016 9:29 a.m. Edited.

taurbeer says... #12

I have to say this cause you maybe don't know of the card. Wild Pair is AWESOME for sliver decks. Play it.

January 26, 2016 11:21 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #13

So I have some ideas in terms of what I should swap out. Please list suggestions for each section.

Content I'm strongly considering adding Nature's Lore in for Fellwar Stone. Vampiric Tutor is an awesome-awesome card. However, it's monetarily very very pricey. I'm do have at least one card I can trade for it, but I have to prioritize on what would be a better fit for the deck: Vampiric Tutor or Cryptic Command? I'm probably only going to get one of these, and I need to make sure it's going to be the right fit. Vampiric Tutor will help big time with the speed of my combo, but it won't really protect anything. Cryptic will help protect my permanents, and has utility but at a very expensive (mana wise) cost. Could someone offer me a suggestion on this?
I'm trying to keep the overall cost of my spells down, so rarely will I go over the 2 mana range for counters. The only big and expensive counter i'm looking at is Cryptic Command. The card itself is expensive, but I do have some cards I can trade to bring the price down. Besides that, the cost.... That's brutal keeping open that much mana, but the utility is pretty awesome. I'm iffy on if I want to keep it in. If anyone has a comment on that, i'd be grateful. The following counterspells: Remand, Rebuff the Wicked, Hindering Light. I feel are a better choice simply because they are cheaper (both in price and casting cost). But ultimately i'm looking to get the best counterspells for the deck, price be damned. Last, but not least I found a Voidslime in my binder. It's a great counterspell, but it's kind of pricey in the the casting cost. I feel somewhat hesitant on including it. I want to keep my casting costs down, but the primary colors of the deck are .
So cards like Wild Pair are great, but they don't fit what i'm trying to do with this deck. Sure, the aggro possibilities are there, but they are the backup plan. If I had to put in Wild Pair, i'd swap out Coat of Arms. Honestly, I don't think Wild Pair is as good because it's more expensive mana wise, and my primary concern is to try and keep down mana costs. Maybe i'm wrong? But etherway, thanks for the suggestion taurbeer. I do know of the spell, I have two copies of it.
January 26, 2016 12:05 p.m.

enpc says... #14

In a 5 colour deck you don't want to be running Cryptic Command. Hell, most 3 colour decks don't run it due to the saturated cost.

If you're looking at running defensive counterspells, then Arcane Denial, Flusterstorm, Dispel and Swan Song are what you want to run.

I would cut AEther Vial as your costs are too varied in the deck. It works in formats where all your creatures cost either 2 or 3 but you cant guarantee that here. And tutoring by cmc seems bad. Also, I would cut Coat of Arms for Green Sun's Zenith. Realistically you shouldn't be playing coat until the turn you're swinging for lethal and at that point GSZ will do the same work in tutoring for Sliver Legion. But GSZ does work early game too.

January 26, 2016 4:41 p.m.

PookandPie says... #15

Intruder Alarm? It and Overlord basically let you tutor and cast every single Sliver in your library. Alarm is so incredibly explosive that I'd run it over Urza's Incubator basically any day.

What you need are 5 Slivers total, two of which should be Sliver Overlord and Manaweft Sliver or Gemhide Sliver. Pay 3 to tutor out a Sliver with haste (if you have an open mana from any non-Sliver source available after casting Intruder Alarm, you require only 4 Slivers), namely Heart Sliver, and cast it. Then, proceed to cast every single Sliver in the library from mana costs 1 and 2 up. At the end of this, they should be getting something in the range of +35/+35 with multiple forms of evasion, indestructible, vigilance, double strike, shroud, etc., so you could probably swing one or two at each opponent to end the game, or, since you'd obviously control Sliver Queen, you can just make tokens until they're septillion/septillion in power/toughness, giving you another great card to combo with Sliver Queen (and Gemhide/Manaweft Sliver).

Intruder Alarm makes for an extremely difficult to stop combo piece, especially if you control Quick and Hibernation Sliver, so I strongly recommend it to anyone making a Sliver Overlord Commander deck. I'm hoping I at least made a case for it over the slot of Urza's Incubator, anyway.

January 27, 2016 3:11 a.m.

bullet6756 says... #16

This is why I love Sliver decks

January 27, 2016 4:02 p.m.

Ender02 says... #18

Door of Destinies is a slower, but nicer (in my opinion) version of Coat of Arms If you want to be really silly, you could run both, but the Door only benefits you, while CoA will help everyone at the table who is running any sort of tribal/themed deck.

February 17, 2016 5:42 p.m.

Mythwind says... #20

Good deck! +1 for you. I also suffer from early game risk... Its easy to stop the swarm when there are only a few slivers in play and no way to block flyers...

May 1, 2016 6:51 p.m.

MonoGreenKing says... #21

Dude, that deck box looks amazing!

May 6, 2016 9:26 a.m.

MonoGreenKing says... #22

If we ever meet I would love to play against this deck.

May 12, 2016 10:25 a.m.

_Delta_ says... #23

This deck looks great. Might you be able to give some feedback whenever possible on my own deck?

I'm trying to make it better before I eventually get around to buying some of the more costly stuff. My goal is to get the last of the slivers I need next. This includes Queen and Legion, along with magma.

Sliver Overlord EDH

June 4, 2016 10:37 p.m.

thomasno02 says... #24

Take that double lifelink, and add Plague Sliver. Combine that with Brood Sliver to double your creature count every turn. Finish this combo off with Synapse Sliver to draw, draw, draw

I would like it if you came and gave me suggestions too :)

Sliver madness

June 15, 2016 3 a.m.

PookandPie says... #25

Brood Sliver and Plague Sliver are a complete nonbo: Brood Sliver specifies combat damage, and Plague Sliver doesn't deal combat damage with its ability so there's no doubling of the creature count on your upkeeps.

June 15, 2016 3:08 a.m.

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