Well, it looks like we're still guaranteed two more Slivers we haven't seen yet! Lancer Sliver and First Sliver's Chosen. Lancer sounds like a first strike one maybe? Chosen sounds very interesting based on the name though.

They revealed the full list of cards that will be on those full art tip cards, those two names popped up. :)

Sorry for asking a not MH related question while the hype is going on...but there is a card I'm considering for my deck for a long time now, I'd like to heare your opinion on it.

have you ever considered oder tryed out Carpet of Flowers ?

Ohh and the last 3 SLivers are out. Unfortumately nothing special for EDH imho. I personally will try The first SLiver, Spiteful SPliver and the 2 Boros Slivers in my Deck.

Hey Nephs, just finally got a look at both First Sliver's Chosen and Lancer Sliver. You were spot on with Lancer's ability, but what piqued my interest was Chosen. Exalted among Slivers? With the right build that sounds like it could definitely get out of hand. I'd imagine Brood Sliver and maybe Hive Stirrings could be part of the strategy to quickly increase the amount of Exalted instances on the board. I haven't heard anything about what will be full art though. Do you have a link?

Slayroth, interesting card Carpet of Flowers . I have honestly never heard of it before...but to use it in EDH seems risky - because you have no idea what decks your opponents are bringing to the table. Blue is a popular color though, so there will be at least one player there packing some form of Blue control. I'd recommend combining Carpet of Flowers with something like Stormtide Leviathan or Quicksilver Fountain to really take advantage of it. I think Carpet of Flowers probably belongs in a deck that has Islandwalk and all matters Island as part of it's central theme. There's not enough room in something that is Sliver focused.

I can't find a link of it atm, but the full art things will essentially be there for proxies haha. They're not real cards, so can't be used in tournaments... But they do look really nice! They showed off a coupe of them, Mox Tantalite being one of them. The full front of the card is the art, the back says the card name.

Speaking of the new spoilers, what are your general thoughts on The First Sliver ? I know it will propably not replace the deck as the commander but people are talking about some Food Chain lists for The First Sliver . Would love to hear your thoughts.

Hey The_Raven_Guy, What're my thoughts on The First Sliver ? Well, it's an amazing addition to Slivers as a tribe, and adds a whole new dimension of deck construction by giving a viable cEDH Sliver commander. Specifically, this would be an excellent alternative food chain commander outside of Prossh, Skyraider of Kher and General Tazri . One particular list I'm a fan of is ShaperSavant's Food Chain Sliver cEDH build. I don't think it will ever overshadow Prossh , but it definitely outshines General Tazri as you aren't dependent on an outlet ( Kalastria Healer , Hagra Diabolist , or Halimar Excavator ) to win the game. With First you simply cast your whole deck and win with something...almost anything really. It offers more variety with your wincon selection.

Outside of cEDH, First is just plain fun. With a Sliver tribal deck (such as mine) you can simply flood the board with permanents, and turn a relatively bare battlefield on turn 5 to something that looks like you're on turn 9 or 10. In this deck, First took the slot of Dormant Sliver - who in my opinion is woefully underrated. Going from to isn't quite the best feeling...but in the long run I think is worth the sacrifice.

Another quick question, what’s you take on Intruder Alarm ? See that you donðt love but i personally use it my list as a good accelerant once you get out a Crystalline Sliver and (now) Cloudshredder Sliver and one or two other slivers to basically tutor all the sliver and ccast them.

Thoughts?

Hey LVL_666, what do u think about Smothering Tithe ? I love it in most of my decks that play White and in a pentacolor deck it could be a nice mana tool

Hey ya LVL_666 any thoughts on my deck list?

Slivering Hive

Sorry for taking a little while to respond all, i'll knock out all your questions in one post:

• The_Raven_Guy "what’s your take on Intruder Alarm ?" - good question. My opinion on IA is that it's an excellent card, but with a massive drawback - your opponents can take advantage of it as well. That means you can only play that card when you know your are going to go off, you don't have the luxury of playing it at an earlier point and use it as a means of improving your board state. I prefer to be more shrewd in my dealings with my opponents, and I don't like to play cards that anyone could potentially take advantage of. IA is a good card, and definitely worth inclusion in any combo deck that can take advantage of it - but it doesn't afford you much flexibility in it's use.

• degli, "what do u think about Smothering Tithe ?" - definitely an interesting card, and an excellent mana ramp source for mono-white, and decks that don't have access to mana dorks or green. Within the context of this deck, I wouldn't see much use for Smothering Tithe as it would be disadvantageous to be dependent on opponents to generate me mana - I want my mana at a moment's notice, and under my terms. Again, Smothering Tithe is a great card - but more useful in something that has more stax effects - with cards like Propaganda and No Mercy alongside it.

• dhoby87, "Any thoughts on my deck list?" Give me a little bit of time and i'll leave you a well thought out post on your deck page. For now, i'll toss ya a +1 as a start.

Hi, i recently found your deck and i find it amazing the work you have put into it, am going to use it as a proyect for my next slivers deck. What would be the cards in the list that could be exchanged depending on my meta?

Btw, you can combo Hibernation Sliver , Lavabelly Sliver , and Morophon, the Boundless with any lifelink sliver .p

Hey Daevied, thanks for the compliment and i'm honored that you would use my deck as a basis for your own. I can't wait to see how your preferences and style will guide you toward your ideal vision of the Hive.

What would be the cards in the list that could be exchanged depending on my meta? - Daevied

Tough question. As for the cards that I would recommend are meta-flexible, well...i'll give a few ideas I guess.

• Quick Sliver - Quick is meant to give you additional flexibility when you are playing at a table with alot of interaction. A player with an itch tap finger can be extremely annoying...especially when they see you in the lead, and leave up some of their mana before your turn begins. If you don't have that problem, then you could slot this one out. OR, if you have more than one annoying player you could slot this in for Root Sliver .
• Sliver Overlord - If you have a meta that is cEDH - only, then well...this Sliver as a commander simply won't be able to compete in first place on a consistent basis. My deck as it is built can hang with some of those decks, but it was never intended to run ahead of the pack in that kind of meta. If you want to make a truly "Sliver themed" cEDH deck, then you need to pilot The First Sliver + Food Chain or maybe Sliver Queen Combo.
• Lands - The most expensive part of this deck are the lands. Honestly, you don't need to have Original Duals and Fetches to have a consistent manabase. If you have a slightly more relaxed meta, you could opt for the Mirage Fetchlands. As for duals, you could snatch up the recently reprinted Shocklands. Utility lands like Gaea's Cradle can be swapped out basics (trust me, it's good to have them - especially when someone in your meta decides to run Blood Moon in a 5 color deck...jerk)

Btw, you can combo Hibernation Sliver , Lavabelly Sliver , and Morophon, the Boundless with any lifelink sliver .p - Daevied

I saw a different use for Lavabelly Sliver in the form of Sliver Queen + Lavabelly Sliver + Basal Sliver - Infinite ETBs = Infinite "Drain for 1" effects. Morophon 's aesthetic just didn't vibe with me, and I won't include it in any of my builds - but I do see the combo potential. Honestly, First Sliver's Chosen caught my eye, and i've been curious as to what I could do with it. Any thoughts? Oh, and thanks for commenting on my page, and thanks again for the compliments. Good luck in your build!

Chitinous Approval Ensues

Hi LVL_666, I'd like to test your list ( I think it's one of the best sliver build i've ever seen) but i need to make some budget related swaps. I think I will have to cut:

• Mana Drain
• Wheel of Fortune
• Mox Diamond
• Mana Crypt

What alternatives do you suggest? I would also like to insert:

• Green Sun's Zenith
• Worldly Tutor
• Armageddon

What do you think about these?

Hey degli,

Sorry for taking a bit to respond. Thanks for the words of praise, this deck is my favorite and i'm glad other folks have a positive opinion of the build. In terms of budget, I can definitely understand that some cards seem just pointlessly expensive. Here are some suggestions i'd offer for each of the previously mentioned cards:

• Mana Drain : This one's a bit tricky, as there aren't many counters that offer ramp as well. This is entirely dependent on your meta, but if you're playing in a more casual group you could use: Plasm Capture , Arcane Denial , Mana Leak , or Split Decision . If you're going for something more competitive that'd narrow the list to maybe Force of Negation . I'm sorry if that last one was a bit pricey.
• Wheel of Fortune : Windfall . Unless you want to stick to red, then i'd go with Reforge the Soul .
• Mox Diamond : There are a number of different directions you could go with here - i'd likely pick one of the Talismans printed in Modern Horizons or Mirrodin. Additionally, there are alternative "Balanced" Moxes like Mox Tantalite or Mox Opal that are affordable.
• Mana Crypt : The first thing that came to mind was Prismatic Geoscope - even though they don't exactly compare 1 for 1. Other than that I can't think of any alternate mana rocks that would really fit in this slot.

Onward to the alternatives:

• Green Sun's Zenith : A solid inclusion for a tutor. A possible alternative would be Finale of Devastation as this can also tutor your graveyard and pump your board for an alternate wincon.
• Worldly Tutor : If you aren't running The First Sliver then I'd suggest you leave this one out. Just run Eladamri's Call .
• Armageddon :Excellent soft lock card for the "alternate win" strategy using a Mana Dork . A solid inclusion.

I think you have some great card choices there. Leave a link to your deck so I can give it some Chitinous Blessings. Thanks for commenting on the page!

Hey degli,

I should've price checked Mox Opal - that was a goof on my part. Just uh...ignore that suggestion.

LVL_666, degli a good alternative to Mana Drain imo, even though it's 5cmc, is Spell Swindle . Gives you mana, like Plasm Capture , but lets you choose when to use it.

Forgot to mention! I have recently replaced Sliver Overlord with The First Sliver as an alternative commander, and personally am loving it. It might not be quite as competitive, because you can't toolbox your way to victory, but it's just a lot more fun to me. My deck, I play a lot of Slivers, it's quite a bit less competitive than LVL_666's is, because my playgroup isn't as cutthroat(except for one of us who just gets ganged up on just about every game lol).

LVL_666, Nephs Thanks a lot for the suggestions! Actually I own a Mox Opal but do you think the list includes enough artifacts to justify the inclusion of this card?

LVL_666, as soon as I'll have some time to write down a list I will post it to you for your blessing ;D

Up to now I'm looking for some slots to run Teferi's Protection and maybe a Ravages of War (my meta is very rampy so I like to run Armageddon and Ravages of War where I can) but I'm not sure on what to cut for them

How has The First Sliver performed? My concern is that it would cascade into something I'd rather not cast at the moment. Also, I keep coming back to Ad Nauseam -like effects and am flirting with running Bolas's Citadel but would want to add Sensei's Divining Top . Between the fetchlands and the Overlord, I spend some time searching, even if I know what I'm grabbing and it slows the game down. Do you worry about durdle time?

Hey gvazdaus,

How has The First Sliver performed? My concern is that it would cascade into something I'd rather not cast at the moment.

Good question. So, there have been a few moments where I cast First and end up with a counterspell or Toxic Deluge . Fortunately there is a "may" clause where I can simply not cast it:

When you cast a spell with Cascade, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card whose converted mana cost is less than the spell's converted mana cost. You may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then put all cards exiled this way that weren't cast on the bottom of your library in a random order. - source

Before First was even printed, my deck was pretty much designed to incorporate it. Top deck manipulation is an important theme in this deck, and therefore I can set up multiple castings during my upkeep or at a moments notice depending on what I have on board. Ad Nauseam effects wouldn't hurt to include, but I think there are better options. Worldly Tutor and Enlightened Tutor are must haves if you are running First , in my opinion. Scroll Rack can set you up for some really great plays if you have in hand what you want to Cascade onto the field - like a Mana Echoes for example.

Durdle Time - yeah...I too am concerned about that. What I try to do is consolidate library shufflings and searching into just one instance. For example: Turn 1, I play a Polluted Delta . I tell my playgroup that I am going to crack it for an Underground Sea and play Vampiric Tutor . I put the tutor into my graveyard, while making the motion on the board that I have tapped the Sea . Once I do that, I pass turn get my cards, shuffle my library and double check to make sure my boardstate is legal. My playgroups appreciate this, and when someone stops to scrutinize or ask questions I welcome it - because I could have easily made a mistake. So yeah, try and consolidate shuffling/interactions with your library into one event - but always check with your playgroup first if that is okay.

Thank you for being the inspiration for me to rebuild my sliver deck after MH Return of the Slivers I run into Supreme Verdict a lot in my meta do you think Ertai's Meddling Is worth running for being able to delay it if Sliver Hivelord i not out yet? I feel its a highly unrated card since it does get around uncounterable spells and can delay other threats and buy you time at minimum 1 turn for 2 mana so 1/3 of a Delay but you get around uncounterable

Yes dude, new Sliver Legion judge promo is on the list to get. Artwork is sooooo good.

Hi! Really love your deck, but... What about Paradox Engine now? Are you going to switch into Intruder Alarm ?

Indeed,it looks like we must find a replacement for Paradox Engine being now gone LVL_666.