The Queen's Egg

Commander / EDH Mortlocke

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TheEDHLegacy says... #1

Why Dorment Sliver from what i can tell you don't have a lot of sac outlits to get rid of him

January 7, 2017 10:46 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #2

TheEDHLegacy, Dormant Sliver is incredibly powerful, and can easily get out of hand due to how quickly Slivers can populate a battlefield. As for sacrifice outlets, the deck has 3 Slivers that could remove Dormant from play - Basal Sliver, Hibernation Sliver, and Necrotic Sliver. If I was desperate to get rid of Dormant Sliver, and needed to attack that turn then I could use some of the deck's built in targeted removal - Vindicate or Anguished Unmaking. In total, that gives me 5 options of removing Dormant if need be (3 of which are tutor-able).

January 8, 2017 7:40 a.m.

TheEDHLegacy says... #3

Wow, never actually thought of it that way, ill put him in for sure now, I really want to go all out for my sliver edh deck considering how annoyingly awesome and hated they are.

January 9, 2017 7:28 p.m.

EKEZ950 says... #4

Just was thinking a Lotus Petal could work in this deck, sliver love <3

January 12, 2017 12:35 a.m.

Metallic Mimic get it while it's cheap

January 15, 2017 10:37 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #6

Its_Johnny_Bravo, all I can think of is...

Man, i'm pretty!

However, Metallic Mimic has been suggested before and after careful consideration it just serves as a "Poor Sliver's Muscle Sliver". Let me explain - the "other creatures get an additional +1/+1" ability is just too slow, and only good early game. Sure, it's great that it boosts base power and toughness, but the problem is that it doesn't help slivers already out on the field. Additionally, it's not really tutorable outside of Enlightened Tutor, which would be better put to use for fetching a Mana Crypt or Scroll Rack. Honestly, I think Metallic Mimic would be better off in a Breya, Etherium Shaper style deck. Thanks for the suggestion, though. I think I will actually get the card anyway but not for slivers.

January 16, 2017 3:16 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #7

EKEZ950 Thank you for the suggestion, the hive is pleased. Lotus Petal is a great little card, giving you that much needed mana to get your combo off maybe 1 turn faster. The problem with it however is that it's not re-usable. In the EDH format, I think cards like Lotus Petal don't really fit. I think other mana rocks like Mana Crypt or Sol Ring would be better choices. Thank you for the suggestion, though.

January 16, 2017 3:21 p.m.

EKEZ950 says... #8

LVL_666 oh ya derp forgot EDH format used to playing legacy lol, I love Sol Ring but unfortunately it's not legacy legal, I cri, I should start playing EDH lol :)

January 27, 2017 5:53 a.m.

thegigibeast says... #9

Have you tested Paradox Engine in this deck yet? It can be amazing with Manaweft Sliver and Gemhide Sliver, and with your commander you straight up get all the slivers from your deck on the battlefield... getting your combos on and going for the win

February 16, 2017 5:43 p.m.

DVLuca says... #10

I dont know (but I think yes) if never tried Hunter Sliver with Venom Sliver, it would be realy good at eliminate treating creatures your opponent may have or simply to clean the board. Realy good build +1 for me!!

February 18, 2017 10:12 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #11

thegigibeast: Paradox engine definitely piqued my interest, and after a bit of brief experimentation I came to the conclusion that if I were to include it, it'd replace Synapse Sliver. This is my thought process:

Pro: Is tutorable via Commander

Pro: It's effect stacks, and applies to all other slivers in play.

Con: requires mana

Con: is a 3/3 for

Con: requires combat damage to be dealt for effect ability to trigger

Pro: has great synergy with Gemhide/Manaweft Sliver and all Mana rocks.

Pro: costs only

Con: Is only tutorable via Enlightened Tutor or Vampiric Tutor (within this deck, anyway).

Con: has limited viability when Gemhide/Manaweft Sliver is not in play.

Honestly, i'm still mulling things over because both cards are great but I can't think of what card to swap Paradox Engine in for. What do you think thegigibeast? Which card wins out between the two?

February 20, 2017 4:47 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #12

DVLuca, the problem with Hunter Sliver + Venom Sliver - cool combo where can target a single enemy creature and deathtouch it goodnight, but the problem is that the sliver engaging the provoke will likely die in the process. That's why I'd prefer Striking Sliver over Hunter. Thanks for the suggestion though!

February 20, 2017 4:52 p.m.

Vegnus says... #13

Sinew sliver should be change to predatory sliver?

If you run with predatory and bonesplitter sliver.I'll suggest about triumph the horde and bring to light package. With galerider sliver and some more slivers will take down one opponent without sliver overlord.

My version a bit different. I run cryptorith rite,green sun's zenith, for finding gemhide or manasweft asap.

Other package are elrich evolution,chord of calling,bring to light combine with seedborn muse. With counter for backup plan you'll have a great moment with quick sliver.

When i encounter with blue or muticolor with blue.Phyrexian metamorph very dangerous for me. Steely resolve and crystalline are the first plan to protect overlord. I'm not run gain control package because when crystalline in play this combo cant be use anymore. Constringting sliver can survive with elesh norn easier more than gain control it. With crystalline sliver or steely resolve and couter backup. Dont worry about return creature exile with it.

I will edit card in full name later. My mobile cant do that

Thank you

February 24, 2017 9:44 p.m.

Vegnus says... #14

My Apologise. I cant edit my last post

Additional with Imperial Recruiter,Eladamri's Call,Demonic Tutor for Manaswept/Gemhide sliver or Seedborn Muse

Now Considering for Bloom Tender.

Can i ask about Scroll Rack and Mirri's Guile. Is it OK?

February 25, 2017 6:29 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #15

Greetings Vegnus, thank you for your input. The hive is pleased. You wrote quite a bit, so i'll address your suggestions and thoughts in small bullets. Additionally, consult the formatting tips and comment tutorials when posting future comments.

  • "Sinew sliver should be change to predatory sliver?": I prefer Sinew Sliver over Predatory because it keeps me from being too reliant on . The deck is 5 color, and designed to not be too reliant on any one color. If I start to lean on too much, then that'll require me to have to modify my manabase.

  • "I'll suggest about triumph the horde and bring to light package": Triumph of the Hordes is an okay sorcery at best. Additionally, I have no means of Proliferating so there's hardly a point in including it. Bring to Light is an interesting tutor, one I haven't considered. If I were to include it, i'd have to have access to 5 different types of mana when casting it to take full advantage. While i'd more likely than not will have access to 5 different types of mana...it doesn't seem like it'd work as consistently as i'd like. I'll keep it in mind though.

  • "My version a bit different. I run cryptorith rite,green sun's zenith, for finding gemhide or manasweft asap."": Refer to my comments about why I included Sinew Sliver over Predatory Sliver. I don't want to lean too much on . Simple as that.

  • "Other package are elrich evolution,chord of calling,bring to light combine with seedborn muse. With counter for backup plan you'll have a great moment with quick sliver.": Why would I bother with Eldritch Evolution when I have Vampiric Tutor/Sliver Overlord? Additionally, I have a ton of top deck manipulation in the form of Sylvan Library and other cards like it. While I may not have a ton of tutors, they're not really all that needed. I am considering Demonic Tutor over Enlightened Tutor. As for Seedborn Muse...it's not a Sliver. It doesn't belong.

February 25, 2017 5:22 p.m.

_Delta_ says... #16

Yes this modern masters is looking amazing for value. I definitely want some of those fetchlands.

March 2, 2017 11:12 a.m.

_Delta_ says... #17

There's 3 of your cards here now as invocations on the way in Amonkhet. Pact of Negation, Counterspell, and Vindicate. I think they look nice but the font is a bit much.

March 31, 2017 8:23 a.m.

Troys50 says... #18

You can't heal quad with Essense sliver. At the time of printing Essense Sliver, Lifelink wasn't a thing, so dispite having Essense sliver and Siphon Sliver out, you would not be healing for quad. Double strike, on the other hand, does give you double.

April 8, 2017 11:52 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #19

Thank you for the comment, Troys50. This is definitely another one of those much needed sanity check moments. However, I think you're wrong. I'll explain in a few points.

  • "At the time of printing Essense Sliver, Lifelink wasn't a thing" - if this is the case, then why didn't wizards change the wording when they reprinted the card at a much later date ala Timespiral - Essence Sliver. Wizards had the opportunity to errata the card...but didn't. By timespiral lifelink definitely existed.

  • Then I looked up previous rulings and found this: "The Oracle text has the answer: Essence Sliver does neither have nor grant lifelink. It has a triggered ability that's cumulative." - CarstenHaese, Level 2 Magic Judge - Source

So while I appreciate you giving me a sanity check, I think it would be best if you actually gave a source or two when discussing rulings on cards. Tell me your thoughts on this - Did I miss a ruling Wizards gave that erratas Essence Sliver's ability? What made you think that Essence Sliver was modified/changed/corrected?

April 9, 2017 10:02 a.m. Edited.

My god... I wish I can foil out my tribal Dragons lol. And I have always wanted to play with slivers at one point. but I will never be able to afford this XD.

April 10, 2017 5:11 p.m.

_Delta_ says... #21

Oh there's way to afford this, you just make some necessary cuts to the manabase as a start. Using weaker lands like Rupture Spire, Opulent Palace, Transguild Promenade, Esper Panorama and the others, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse. It slows the deck down considerably but it would still be playable.

Theres others like Exotic Orchard, Forbidden Orchard, Ancient Ziggurat, that can be swapped in too.

April 10, 2017 5:29 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #22

CinnaToastKrunch, this deck was years in the making I kid you not. I fell in love with Slivers from the moment I met them back in Legions. A friend made a standard deck and quickly wiped the floor with me and my Wizard tribal deck (it was a garbage deck, btw). You can build this as well, you just need to carefully spend and plan is all. Delta-117 had the right idea to get the cost down, most of the monies poured into this deck are from the revised dual lands (the cheapest instance of the "original" dual lands, btw). The deck would be around $500-ish dollars if you removed the duals, and some of the high priced counterspells (Mana Drain specifically), artifacts (Mana Crypt) and Fetchlands.

April 10, 2017 8:19 p.m. Edited.

Ah alright haha, thank you so much! I still have a litte work to do with my tribal dragons but It's actually pretty fast as it is! Thanm you both Delta-117 and LVL_666

April 11, 2017 10:09 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #24

Actually, CinnaToastKrunch I think if you want to pursue a Mana Crypt (which is a must have for any EDH deck) now would be the time to do it since there are so many fresh instances of the card roaming around. I think you could get a MP copy for around $50 to $40. Your dragons will be much faster with a Mana Crypt in their coffers.

April 11, 2017 12:23 p.m.

Well that's a bit unfortunate with the fact i sold one when EMA came out lol. But I feel you are right and I will try and trade for one or something! Thank you!

April 11, 2017 12:47 p.m.

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