dharris0499 I tried it, but it takes 4 important lost for mill cards. It is good agnist burn and affinity, and aggro decks in general, you can win some mu thanks to him, but it is a big risk, because he easily dies with lots of removal (dismember, push, path) and it does not sinergies with Ensnaring Bridge and don't sinergize with your strategy, so it is a good card but too situational. If you want to not spend a lot you can put jace phantasm's in your deck, but there are better alternatives. :)

Search for Azcanta  ^Flip doesn't belong here. For 2 you should be milling, not waiting. You say mill is aggressive.. but you're going to waste time and resources on an enchantment that does nothing for your archetype and makes your deck $20 more? Consider Drowned Secrets for replacement.

As for Ensnaring Bridge, it belongs in the sb. Full throttle game 1. Allow more room for more mill speed, perhaps Thought Scours or simple Tome Scours to synergize with Drowned Secrets?

Hope this helps a bit.

TheSurgeon Hi, thank for the comment: 1) Search for azcanta is a very good card, bc allows you to select your draws late game. It is not a card for early game:this is why I play it 1x. 2) Drowned Secrets In my opinion is a very bad card, bc if you draw it late game is a "dead draw", azcanta is superior on it bc if u think at it: both two do nothing when enters in batter field, but azcanta gain value every turn (both early and late game) butDrowned Secrets in useless late game. 3) Putting Ensnaring Bridge in main or sb depends from the local meta, so maybe your are right, if there are not aggro decks in your local meta :) 4 I tested Thought Scour in my deck a lot, but you simply don't need it, is a cc1 cycle 1 mill 2. So I prefer invest one mana in something else, like Visions of Beyond, you don't need too mutch draws in mill, expecially bc you have Ensnaring Bridge. So I am considering the idea of put in the deck 2x of Collective Brutality. 4) Tome Scour is a bad card too, is good only if u want a budget list. I don't recommend to think to build a strategy with Drowned Secrets. If you like enchants I recommend you to build a Fraying Sanity budget deck :) Hope this answer to your questions. Anyways, thanks for the advices :) P.S. Sorry for my English :)

maybe Leyline of the Void in the side. could help vs graveyard decks or ones that use Emrakul

ZorrosRage Yes, it's a good card, but it has 3 problems: don't sinergize at all with Crypt Incursion, if you don't have it on turn 1 it is a really heavy card to play and it is an enchant, so pretty easy to destroy. So I prefer some Surgical Extraction and Ravenous Trap, that are istants and they cost zero :)

Do you think you could help me with my mill deck? I haven't played in 2 years and I'm getting hooked again. I'm not up on current cards and would love some guidance. Mill Deck

roastbeef180 I go to see your deck, and put some advices in the comments :)

SentinelElf2711 Thank you!! the goal of my deck is to get Consuming Aberration really big.

I've been playing mill for about 3 years at my lgs. Plebty of top tier decks there we usually go 5 rnds. Ive been having alot of success with Trapmaker's Snare going to get my archive traps and ravenous traps for 2 mana is useful. Also it allows you to have a card like snapcaster where u can flash that spell back and still cast it again since its so much mana to cast archive trap for flashback.

frogkill45 yeah it is not a bad card, I tested it once, but I don't like it a lot... Too situational in my opinion, is good in a budget deck :)

Hey SentinelElf2711. Glad to see a fellow Mill enthusiast. I just have a couple sideboard suggestions. Darkness is a good crutch to have in case your opponent removes or bounces Ensnaring Bridge and thinks you're defenseless. Also consider running Echoing Truth either with or instead of Hurkyl's Recall because it hits more things, specifically Leyline of Sanctity. You can take a look at my list and tell me what you think, too. If you're like me, it seems we both want mill to become great ;) Modern UB Mill

TheSpanishInquisition13 Thanks for your suggestions :). I need 2x of Hurkyl's Recall cuz in my local Meta there are lots of hardened scales and affinity. But I like a lot Echoing Truth so probably put in that instead of Winds of Rebuke. For Darkness I have to think more :).now I have to see your deck

I just had a revelation. Spellskite would be amazing protection in several ways. It protects you from bolts, Hedron Crab from removal, and your key artifacts, Mesmeric Orb and Ensnaring Bridge, from removal, too. Dont know what to replace just yet, but it's something to consider and I have yet to see a build with it.

Tome Scour, Jace Beleren, Mind Grind, Psychic Corrosion (Strictly better than Jace's Erasure, but you can add both), and Startled Awake  ^Flip are some good mill cards.

chromiumthemutable Those cards are not very good, yep they mill, but they are too slow or they mills just few cards... There are just better alternatives :)

so one thing ive done with my mill deck is i went esper, wub, and used Path to Exile as my main removal while also getting access to all the great white sideboard cards i also have discovered Manic Scribe is less than marginal and using additional Mission Briefing s to abuse the interaction with Archive Trap also during my play testing 4x Mesmeric Orb isnt fully needed because while it does stop alot of aggressive strats you just still end up dying because you dont have interaction hence why i run 2 and then mainboards Echoing Truth and Detention Sphere and i also run Supreme Verdict to make punishing creature decks better

VexxValentine The problem of adding white in kill, is that your manabase will be more unstable. You can use Fatal Push instead of Path to Exile and Damnation instead of Supreme Verdict . Virdict and pact are a bit stronger, but they also require you to add one more color to your manabase, and this slows you a lot. echonig truth is not bad, but if you have problems with aggro the solution is Crypt Incursion and Ensnaring Bridge that can give you lot of time. If you have too mutch problems with aggro I suggest you to put main board 1/2 Bontu's Last Reckoning . If the problem is dredge or Phoenix add more Surgical Extraction and Extirpate

P.S. Esper mill is not as competitive as UB. If you watch list that made some results, on mtggoldfish or Mtgtop8 all mill lists are UB.UB is just faster, esper control the board better, but not enough in my opinion :)

Have a nice day, let me know if I am wrong :)

Maybe I’m not seeing it, but winds of rebuke? Wouldn’t you want to run something like echoing truth instead?

SentinelElf2711 It seems that most of your arguments and suggestions on your deck description are biased.. give a look at my primer in this site for advice.

This deck is looking very good, and very close to what is being played in the more serious competitive scenes. I’d say you don’t need to change anything other than Manic Scribe ... almost any mill spell will net you more value, Mind Funeral seems like a better fit, or Thought Scour .

You’re right to avoid Fraying Sanity ... the text looks inviting but it’s a trash card that’ll just make the deck clumsy. Running a single copy is usually viable, but running any more than 1 just ends up creating the risk of drawing more than 1.. and drawing a second copy is the same as missing out on a draw entirely. There’s a reason 90% of competitive mill avoids this card, and those that do use it, just use 1.

Anyway, awesome looking deck! +1!

wallisface The problem with Mind Funeral is the "randomness" of the card, you can mill 20 cards, but what if you mill only 7? With 3 mana is too risky in my opinion. Manic Scribe Provides you a bit of mill and a decent defence agnist aggro early game. Thought Scour is not a bad card, but in the deck we already have Visions of Beyond . Anyways thank you for the advice,maybe I'll give a try to Thought Scour cause it works well with Scheming Symmetry .

Has everyone forgot about Drown in the Loch

SentinelElf2711 So the problem with Manic Scribe is that it will just never net you enough value. You play it on T2, but you’re unlikely to have anywhere near enough card types in your own grave by then. You might be able to turn on Delirium on your T3, but more realistically T4 (or even later, the number of cards you’re running that help with Delirium are super-low).

In the world of mill, you want to have won the game by 4, or have secured some way to play a 5th turn... so this guys only helping (best case) to mill 6 cards total in those first 4 turns that matter. I just don’t see him generating enough of a dent in the opponents deck to be worth it personally.

Mind Funeral can be risky, but i’ve found payoff. Against hyper aggressive decks, they generally run very few lands and lots of fetches to thin this further - this often means a big hit where you can make huge gains in chewing through their deck (averaging 13-15+ cards). Against slower decks that run more lands, you obviously catch less, and average closer to 8-9, which isn’t great (though still better than scribe). This doesn’t matter so much anyway as slower games tend to work in our favour regardless, so it’s less of an issue. The only deck where Funeral sucks is against Prime-time nonsense- they run enough lands to make Funeral get low (~8-9) hits, but they’e fast enough to win quickly also.

Just a quick reminder that actually Ashiok, Dream Render doesnt stop your opponet from searching his/her library if you use Field of Ruin on them, since Ashiok, Dream Render only stops spells and abilitys your opponet control, and Field of Ruin 's ability is yours!

I haven't played my modern mill deck in years and with Ruin Crab and Maddening Cacophony being printed, it has gotten my creativity going for the deck again and wanting to update it. Since I have been out of the loop on modern (I follow magic but not the competitive scene, I play EDH almost exclusively), I had to see what decks are big now. As far as a suggestion, that I'm thinking about for the deck with stuff that's been printed since I had last played with my deck, I originally had Nature's Claim in the SB as an answer to Leyline of Sanctity, I've thought about changing that out with Assassin's Trophy. It costs one more mana BUT it gets rid of anything PLUS the opponent can search their library, which is great synergy with Archive Trap. As far as my overall update, I'm trying to see if my mainboard should be more turbo mill or mill/control.