Conspiring with the Lich

Legacy* xKrenko

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twospires says... #1

I've made a very similar deck, BBB Horcruxes. I've found Lashwrithe to be nasty, especially if I can drop a Lich turn 3 and a Writhe turn 4, immediately swing for 9. Even better is Inquisitor's Flail , which turns the Lich into a 10/5, which is just stupid. I'd probably lose both the enchantments you have here, go for a few more lands and artifacts. Otherwise, love the deck. Phylactery Lich is such a fun card.

October 8, 2013 11:56 p.m.

twospires says... #2

Oh, and also: I'm pretty sure that something like Geth's Verdict or Gatekeeper of Malakir or some other spot removal spell (black's got a bunch of good ones) would be better than the Chainer's Edict . How often do you get to 7 mana? Kick the Sign in Blood up to 4, or swap them for Read the Bones , which is a great card as well.

October 9, 2013 12:01 a.m.

xKrenko says... #3

Awesome your deck is actually fairly good! I actually do think Gatekeeper of Malakir would be a great idea to add in here I can switch them out for Dark Favor and Leaden Myr , however. I do think keeping Chainer's Edict is still beneficial for me cause it really has saved my life a good chunk of times with its Flashback. I don't see much use for Lashwrithe since it's a 4 drop and 2 or 2 life to equip which is a bit too expensive to have in this deck (same goes for Inquisitor's Flail it is too slow for me) . Plus I have Cranial Plating : I may need to add one more though.

Crippling Blight is one of my most important cards in this deck so I can't take it out. Its a good removal for chump cards, and keeps other creatures from blocking especially since I have no trample it's good to get damage in without being blocked which works amazing with Phylactery Lich .

Overall thanks for the feedback, I'll have to get me some Gatekeeper of Malakir !

October 9, 2013 4:24 p.m.

twospires says... #4

Thanks! (psst! I'll upvote your deck if you upvote mine). Yeah, I don't see much point for Leaden Myr . I wouldn't want to make that a phylactery, it's too fragile. Definitely swap those out. I thought Cranial Plating cost more than that, I might add some. Yes, the Lashwrithe is terrible as a phylactery. But it's just too good to leave out of a monoblack aggro deck. It starts out as a 4/4 and just gets bigger as the game goes. I love it.I see why you want Crippling Blight , it makes sense. My personal preference is to remove the creature entirely, which is pretty easy for black. I'd suggest any of the instant spot removal spells in my deck: Dismember , Tragic Slip , or Victim of Night . Now that I think of it, maybe Grasp of Darkness , too. Hope this helps. Phylactery Lich for the win!

October 9, 2013 4:33 p.m.

xKrenko says... #5

Thanks for the suggestions! (Already Upvoted :D) Cranial Plating is superb. It's a good artifact you should try it out and see how it can benefit your deck. How it works for me is by turn one Vault Skirge is out, turn two Bonesplitter equip Vault Skirge swing for 3 and gain 3 life, turn 3 Vault of Whispers and Cranial Plating equip to Vault Skirge swing for 7 and gain 7 life. By turn 4 I can get Phylactery Lich and it gets nasty from there, of course depends on my draw but usually when I play I control the field a bit before I start prevailing towards victory. The discard part helps me greatly though too there's just so many combos that can be done and same goes for yours. I'll have to experiment more but I'm definitely taking out Leaden Myr I have it in there for the extra mana plus it's an artifact it does come in handy in times of need.

October 9, 2013 7:13 p.m.

twospires says... #6

That's a pretty ugly start. I like it a lot. My deck is more focused on the Lich (Darksteel Axe over Bonesplitter ) but this looks strong. I playtested this one, didn't get that good a draw but I did draw Slate Street Ruffian . What's with that? It doesn't seem like it belongs at all.

October 9, 2013 10:44 p.m.

xKrenko says... #7

I just made some changes to my deck from yesterday's games. I had Slate Street Ruffian for his discard effect which didn't work as much as I though it would do...so I had him replaced with a card my friend suggested me to Hypnotic Specter which actually does a lot better at it. I also removed Leaden Myr for Fume Spitter which does a lot better as well. I will be play testing it today again and see how it fairs.

October 10, 2013 5:48 p.m.

twospires says... #8

Yes, Hypnotic Specter is fantastic. I've been looking for some for my Grix discard deck (Put Those Cards Down Before You Hurt Yourself), it just doesn't get much better than them. Of course, you have so few discard effects in the deck that Vampire Nighthawk might be a better choice here.

October 14, 2013 5:56 p.m.

xKrenko says... #9

Vampire Nighthawk actually does much better, I playtested with some really good decks my friends have and got to say it does really well and puts up a good challenge. Hypnotic Specter is still a good card though it did it's job, but the Nighthawk has better synergy. Thanks for that one! I'll have to check out that deck of yours or all of them haven't had the time to look around this site much.

October 15, 2013 6:13 p.m.

twospires says... #10

Yeah. Hypnotic Specter is good in discard, but Vampire Nighthawk is the one you want here, for sure.

October 30, 2013 4:19 p.m.

twospires says... #11

What's up with Duskworker here? Is it meant to be an artifact to hold phylactery counters? Doesn't seem very good to me.

November 16, 2013 2:07 p.m.

xKrenko says... #12

Yea Duskworker is quite underestimated, he's not that great but can be really great depending. But with my experience with it in this deck it has done fairly well especially when equipped with Bonesplitter , most of the times they will block it and regenerates, nobody really removes him cause he doesn't look like a threat. But sometimes I ran into having tons of mana and nothing to use all that for anything and I just like paying 3 mana for his ability to ensure a bit more damage.

I'm sure there's something better to replace it with, but so far I like the dude and the art. Any suggestions what would be a better fit?

November 26, 2013 3:23 a.m.

twospires says... #13

Well, I'm pretty attached to my Gatekeeper of Malakir s. I know they don't really work with Crippling Blight , but a three-mana two-for-one is pretty strong.

Here's the thing: Your Phylactery Lich and big, equipped creatures are going to get chumped whenever possible. There are a few ways to get around this: You can put in equipment that gives trample, intimidate, or some kind of evasion. Or you could have tons of removal, which is what I did. You could also go for more card advantage and late-game cards so that you can keep snowballing and getting more and more powerful as the game goes on.

So I'd suggest either evasion, removal, or card advantage and lategame threats. Desecration Demon would be perfect here: It keeps their creature count down and becomes a super fat flier.

November 26, 2013 9:31 a.m.

xKrenko says... #14

I definitely agree with you, I do have some Desecration Demon I'm not using I'll put them in. Thanks a lot! I do think he may be what is missing in here...

November 26, 2013 2:16 p.m.

iv.Boo says... #15

+! love the deck, however why 3x Fume Spitter , maybe replace with another Vampire Nighthawk , and maybe say 2 more Grasp of Darkness or Necrogen Spellbomb

December 10, 2013 5:31 p.m.

xKrenko says... #16

Your probably right I will test that out, thanks!

December 10, 2013 6:28 p.m.

twospires says... #17

I like the Desecration Demon ... I guess I suggested that. I personally went with Lashwrithe in its place (it gets absurd with a Vault Skirge . Pay the life to equip and gain it right back) but my deck is more removal-heavy.

But with 4 Chainer's Edict and 2 Desecration Demon , might I suggest a different removal spell than Crippling Blight ? Grasp of Darkness is good, but I like Dismember better. You'll definitely have the life to pay if you need it. What do you think?

January 6, 2014 11:05 a.m.

xKrenko says... #18

Lashwrithe Problem I have with that card is that it's expensive as far as mana and it's too slow for my deck. I have Cranial Plating in replace for it which fairs much better and especially because I have Vault of Whispers which isn't a swamp. Also the amount of damage you do by turn four my deck does more by then.

Vault Skirge doesn't get equipped by Darksteel Axe till turn 3, which will be about 5 damage by then. Lashwrithe turn 4 that''s 7 damage . Opponent lost 12 life by 4 turns if he/she has nothing those turns to deal with the skirge..Of course later in mid game he would be fatal for sure or any other creature for that matter..

In my case I equip Bonesplitter by turn 2 that's 3 damage, Cranial Plating turn 3 plus a Vault of Whispers that's 7 damage, turn four any equipment+artifact land that's 6 or possibly 5 artifacts if no artifact land, if equipment is Cranial Plating for example, adds up to 12, Bonesplitter +2, 15 damage turn four which is game.

However, your deck does have more removal so mid game your opponnent won't have many creatures or none at all. My deck lacks a bit of removal, but can definitely use some more. I do think Dismember can be added in here maybe in replace for Necrogen Spellbomb , and I think I can take out at least two or one Crippling Blight which are still priority but I'll see what I can do. Thanks though! Desecration Demon is probably the best removal I got in here only if I had three of them would be much better..

January 7, 2014 12:43 a.m.

iv.Boo says... #19

Lashwrithe can be good regardless if you have Vault of Whispers you'll still have 3 swamps by turn four and the good thing it boosts toughness not just power which will help against burn spells like Lightning Bolt . I think you made a good choice in taking out Crippling Blight it was a good card to get damage in, but I think you needed more creatures in the end. The other thing why Lashwrithe is good for because it comes in attached to a germ token So even if you didn't have anything to equip it to it's already attached to a germ which can be deadly in itself too being at 4/4. I have to agree with twospires on this one, you should definitely have it in here at least 2 or 3...or perhaps just test it out.

January 9, 2014 3:21 p.m.

Phylactery Lich and Inquisitor's Flail work nicely. Has that been mentioned yet?

January 10, 2014 3:11 p.m.

xKrenko says... #21

Thanks I do believe it has I'll have to test it out though if I decide on having Lashwrithe or Inquisitor's Flail in here.Thanks everyone! i'll keep it updated!

January 10, 2014 4:04 p.m.

artakha says... #22

What about Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth ? It can make your Vault of Whispers work with Lashwrithe .

February 21, 2014 5:12 p.m.

xKrenko says... #23

That's a good card do you know of another card that does the same but is far less expensive...that card cost at least a little more than half of the deck's worth trying to keep it budget thanks though...that's definitely a good card overall..

February 21, 2014 6:45 p.m.

artakha says... #24

You could have Crypt Ghast to double your mana, but I don't know any other cards that make lands into swamps. There's Blood Moon , but that makes non-basic lands into mountains.

February 21, 2014 9:16 p.m.

DavidBray says... #25

You should see if any darksteel stuff fits your deal. I ran Phylactery Lich with Darksteel Relic (but it does not have an advantage on the board) and it kept him alive alright.

February 27, 2014 5:36 p.m.

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