Someone listen to Africa by Toto for the first time?

You'd also probably like Overkill by Men at Work

Actually, iRidetheTvan is my brother. He doesn't listen to enough good music, so I was recommending some. I do love Overkill though, great song, just like so many others from that time period. I'm a big fan of the 80s and classic rock.

What are your thoughts on one or two mainboard Slaughter Games ?

@TheAnnihilator Working on the premise that you don't know what's in each new deck you play, so therefore you can't technically know what's a threat, Slaughter Games takes up 2 slots that are almost unusable in game 1. Now, in a real context, I actually love the idea because if your LGS is anything like mine, you know the people who play there, so there is very little surprise if you have played against most of the decks, the exception being new faces. With Esper, you can almost always safely bet on Aetherling and Jace. Mono blue is sure to have Master of Waves. I mean, as long as you make some wise calls, you can hit them where it hurts. I've seriously considered mainboarding a pair into my deck just to make it more lethal Game 1. I cannot vouch for Dentalflosstycoon, but for me, it is a realistic possibility.

Regards,TheGodofNight

I despise catchy tunes and anything plus everything about music. I think that all music should go die in a hole and cease to exist. You have crappy no talent rappers that "rap", or should I say spit and mumble, about sex, drugs, and money. Trash. You have country singers who everyone thinks is amazing because they have a different accent than most people. Trash. Then you have dubstep, bassnectar, and skrillex, all of which are terrible and should drop off the face of the Earth. No one sings, no one plays a talented instrument or anything. It's all electronic garbage that drops to a weird noise at climatic moments in the song and then everyone bangs their head or hands up and down. Trash. The only music that is good is Christmas Music.

Christmasmusic4life

Regards, iRidetheTvan

Also for the record I have no clue who dentalflosstycoon is. I am not his little brother nor do I have any relation to him at all.

To: TheGodofNight
I like Slaughter Games because of how predictable people are:
--If they run red, you can expect a near playset of Stormbreath Dragon .
--If ther run control (Esper, USA, etc...) you can garuntee Jace, Architect of Thought , and pretty much expect Elspeth, Sun's Champion , but other good targets are Detention Sphere and Supreme Verdict , however there are a wide variety of control color combos---the fewer colors they run, the easier it is to target win cons.
--For mono-Black: Desecration Demon .
--Mono-Blue: Master of Waves .
--For Dimir Mill, Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver for sure, I I see a lot of people run Consuming Aberration .

For most color combos, you already know what they play by turn four. Plus, Slaughter games is uncounterable anyways, and if you run targeted hand disruption (Duress , Thoughtseize , etc...) then you already know what to target.

It is a possibility, but it is still risky nevertheless, although you make a good point. I'll playtest it and see if it performs well.

TheAnnihilator

Slaughtering for a Desecration Demon in a mono-black is not smart. Slaughtering for Gray Merchant of Asphodel is smart.

To: hochmaster
I don't run mono-black in standard, and I could only think of Desecration Demon because I run it in a deck not dissimilar to this one. You make good point though, Gray Merchant of Asphodel is very annoying, because I have played against him, and he is not fun to have dropped against you...

I've not read all the comments here, so if someone has already suggested this I apologise. The replacement of Desecration Demon for Alms Beast could solve your Duress /Thoughtseize dilemma as you'll get a 6/6 lifelink for four and it will help you stabilise vs aggro, or get through for damage / be removed (in the same fashion as Desecration Demon would anyway) vs control where life-loss isn't at crucial.

@Shrivan No one has suggested the Alms Beast before, however, I really don't think it is a better pick over the Desecration Demon. For starters, for 4 mana, you get a 6/6 that gives creatures that block it or are blocked by it lifelink. I think you, as many people do, misread what Alms Beast does. To be perfectly honest, Desecration Demon is a marked demon, so to speak. If he resolves and ends up on the field, people either need to deal with him, or lose. Most times, people nuke to hell. Although, at my game shop, the control decks would still bounce, remove him, kill him, because he would still be a 6/6 beater, and they can't have that. Interesting idea, but I, for one, do not want to help my opponent out by letting them gain more life that I have to strip away from them. However, if Alms Beast had lifelink, he would make a decent replacement for Desecration Demon.

I'm sure your well aware of this but you have 61 cards. I know there is nothing wrong with this just wanted to point it out.

You also really need any form of card advantage like any good control deck.

Underworld connections comes to mind as does more read the bones.

This deck also struggles against American control as the game goes on. Detention Sphere Counterflux Supreme Verdict and the revelation cause huge game swings.

I'm pretty sure any deck would struggle against a USA control deck in the later rounds/turns. Detention Sphere , Counterflux , Sphinx's Revelation , and Supreme Verdict cause game swings against any other deck as well.

Hey did you know that the sky is blue? What about that the grass is green?

That's fair, but this deck doesn't have a way to win in any of the first few turns meaning that it is gonna have to go to the late game in any control match up. This means that as you stated it's going to have problems.

I was in fact aware of the afore mentioned statements and I was going to in-turn ask ask if you know that the ocean is wet?

I think that Whip of Erebos would be very could in that match up. Counter my demon? I'll bring it back and gain 6!

Wow that english I meant he would be very good, not could.

Actually the ocean isn't wet. It is a liquid. Wet is a term to describe something that has come in contact with a liquid. So someone who goes in the ocean could become wet or is wet but the ocean itself is not wet.

Clearly he doesn't have a way to win in the first few rounds...it's a control deck! Does it say aggro anywhere?

That's my point exactly.

Clearly he doesn't have a way to win in the first few rounds...it's a control deck! Does it say aggro anywhere?

I'm pretty sure any deck would struggle against a USA control deck in the later rounds/turns.

-- PablOizCool

So If he can't win fast and he struggles in the later turns he's going to have problems. That's all I'm saying.

And the sky isn't blue it's just the way light is refracted, same with grass. Grass isn't green it's just the way the eye perceives it.

We all know how light and color work. Grass is every color buut green...green is rejected and reflected and that's why we see it blah blah blah. If you're going to say that grass isn't green and the sky isn't blue and the ocean isn't wet then you're all retards.

I can see what PablOizCool is saying though. He means that all decks that aren't aggro decks have trouble with control in the later rounds so there wasn't a point in making that comment.

iRidetheTvan: Wow I feel kinda embarrassed. I was an ass, sorry.

Thanks for having some sense to step in.

I am also well aware that anything that's not aggro is going to have problems. That comment was mostly to spark conversations for improvements against control decks.

I'm sorry if I came across as a ass (I kinda was).

I am curious to hear if you have run into any problems with Hexproof decks or not. I have a similar deck that I made in response to where I play here in Mn and it is more along the line of making them sac their creatures instead of me targeting them.

No problem, we're all good. I agree that this deck needs to improve its ways when versing other control decks but I think a good and varied sideboard could handle that issue.