I like Trygon Predator and Lorescale Coatl for Simic decks

i have to agree most cards that have may effects are reletively good depending on the actual effect

Doubling Season and Riptide Laboratory would go well with this deck.

Like I recommended to someone else, Myojin of Life's Web and Myojin of Seeing Winds so you can double their divinity counters and get more use out of their abilities.

10 mana? I found before I made cuts that my hands were swamped with the 5+ mana cards. I really could only possibly rationalise Myojin of Seeing Winds , but I will think on it. Thanks canterlotguardian

My original UG deck was similar to this. I had a lot of evolve and cards that got +1/+1 by triggered effects. It was just too slow. That being said, I play against some very fast decks. Even now I am streamlining to make it faster and I've already gotten rid of all of those. I think if you are going to stick with this theme, you need some protection for Vorel (you know the ones I'm talking about).

I also think you should put some things in for doubling counters or doubling abilities (like Vorel's). Not a big fan of Strionic Resonator, but Illusionist's Bracers , Instill Energy , because while he's out you need to really pump some creatures up. Also, wouldn't be bad for alternate win conditions that take advantage of Vorel's abilities.

I am about to pull most of my defense/control and go for an all out assault.

Lastly, I would take out Courser of Kruphix for Oracle of Mul Daya . It's on;y one more mana and you get to play an extra land. I think this is much more beneficial than life gain. If you HAD to have a life gain card, I would use Predator's Rapport .

Good luck bud.

Thanks for the help sambojones. This was Evolve crazy at the start but its a little weak. It's stronger now, and with Illusionist's Bracers there could be some fun had.

Much appreciated.

Freed from the Real /Pemmin's Aura are awesome on vorel then get out a Pentad Prism and you get unlimited mana of any color Etched Oracle is hands down the best draw engine this deck could get check out my deck Vorel: 2 times the flavor, 2 times the fun

Every Vorel I feel absolutely needs a Forgotten Ancient in EDH. It is a incredible counter producer, along with a counter disbursement.

As a suggestion for something to remove for it I would remove Species Gorger . Reason being is it hurts you more than it helps you, your deck doesn't contain a lot of ETB effects, and you are using counters of which are going to be removed from a creature the moment it get returned from your hand by this card.

A highly under estimated card that I refuse to remove from my Vorel deck would be Bioshift The amount this card has saved counters on my creatures, or moved them to another creature to win me the game has been countless, it is such a good card for a common in a Vorel deck.

Those are basically the IMO staple of a Vorel deck from the use of my own, hope it helps.

Yeah, Tiddilywinkus, I think it's about time Forgotten Ancient was in there. I use Species Gorger to bounce itself just for the Evolve triggar, but I may look into better options.

I would add some proliferators, like Thrummingbird or Viral Drake . Also Contagion Engine (you can double also this counters with Vorel) and Inexorable Tide are very nice. cool deck, +1.:)

Thanks ZoaOfTheHullClade, I'll consider proliferate. I wish sideboards were more of a thing in commander: so many great ideas.

Yeah, you're totally right. I run also a Vorel-Counterdeck, Vorel double pain, which is different, but i'd love to play your style too.

Two great cards are Leafdrake Roost and Talrand's Invocation because of their ability to create creatures. Another good card is Blight Mamba . Check out my decks here please, Swimmer.

I don't think that making a counter deck for Edh will work, but I hope it does for you. Some good cards, Give / Take , Bioshift , Experiment One and Elusive Krasis . Hope this helped.

Helix Pinnacle would be a great win con for this deck i think. Also Gilder Bairn if he's not already in your list.

Vorel doesn't hit Enchantments, sadly, radway, so not reliable. Imagine if it did, though.

No he don't but he does work on Everflowing Chalice to get the required 100 mana quickly

how about Darksteel Reactor than?

Much better, I might think of Darksteel Reactor , radway. thanks

Kalonian Hydra is the most obvious one missing, imho. Possibly Mistcutter Hydra and Sage of Hours . For instant: Fated Infatuation