BearTornado says... #2
chrispmatth Awesome, thank you so much for the advice. All awesome suggestions. I really like the Slaughter Games being mainboarded, the thought didn't even occur to me.
My main concern with dropping Liliana's Reaver is the loss of the discard caveat, which can slow down Shrieking Affliction . Which although it's significantly less damage, it's more consistent. I'll try it regardless though.
Again, thank you for the input. :)
April 10, 2014 6:29 p.m.
Considering your game plan (discard, disrupt and kill their creatures) I would suggest Sylvan Caryatid if only because it ramps and is a stellar blocker. If you're leaning towards a more aggro approach I strongly advised against the Pain Seer . With 10 cards over 3CMC it'll hurt you more than help you....maybe if you added Scavenging Ooze . A card to consider is Rix Maadi Guildmage . The interactions between it Mogis, God of Slaughter and Shrieking Affliction make for a nice mana sink. Oh you have less than 1 card in hand or didn't sack a dude and your dude doesn't affect the board? Cool take an extra 1-3 damage. Regardless, I like the deck and agree that the Putrefy should be Murderbore. +1 from me and good luck with the brew. :D
April 13, 2014 3:30 p.m.
xxINS4NExWoC says... #4
Put in 1 Stormbreath Dragon and 1 Master of Cruelties and 2-3 Sylvan Caryatid . Take out mogis and demon and lotleth. Leave 1 demon though. Put in 2 Chandra, Pyromaster . Take out thoughtseize. With no way of gaining life there are serious issues with this card. Mainboard Dreadbore . Put Slaughter Games in the sideboard. Put in Mizzium Mortars . For draw Read the Bones is probably your best bet even with the life loss. Maybe up Duress by 1. Maybe put in some more discard stuff. Take a look at Sire Of Insanity . Maybe look into Toil / Trouble as well. I like your idea here just needs refined if you are going the control route.
April 24, 2014 11:02 p.m.
BearTornado says... #5
Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
While Stormbreath Dragon is a good card, he doesn't really fit the archetype I'm gong for. He's a face beater for sure, but I'd rather have a Desecration Demon either killing creatures or attacking on turn 5.
Thoughtseize is a necessity in this deck, even with the life loss. I went ahead and mainboarded Crypt Incursion to help balance the situation out. Even then, being able to disrupt their hand that early is an invaluable asset.
I did some testing with Sylvan Caryatid , while the ramp is helpful, this deck curves out at a CMC of 4, 5 if I sideboard, so it quickly becomes pretty irrelevant. That's why I prefer Lotleth Troll , he can block for days and start swinging once I stabilize.
I've been considering 1 ofs of either Sire Of Insanity or Master of Cruelties though. I'll probably end up going with the Sire at some point, but right now it just seems like a win more card than a necessity.
Toil/Trouble is kind of antithetical to the purpose of the deck, although I may sideboard it because of Sphinx's Revelation , but that's why I keep two Slaughter Games in my mainboard. Due to all the handrip and such in here.
I really appreciate the input, I'll definitely check out the Master, Sire, and Toil though
April 25, 2014 1:44 a.m.
chrispmatth says... #6
I love Crypt Incursion for life gain, with added utility against B/G dredge and Chandra's Phoenix . For the same reason, I think scavenging ooze should take it's place in mainboard. Ooze has been so good to me for life gain, and can be a serious threat on offense or defense.
Alternatively, aside from different removal, what is green really getting you in this build? I think you could really streamline the discard/rack version of this by going just Rakdos colors. It makes your landbase a lot more consistent and just means you have to move to a slightly altered removal package, a la mainboard Bile Blight and possibly Anger of the Gods , or Mizzium Mortars over your Putrefy and Abrupt Decay
April 28, 2014 8:52 a.m.
BearTornado says... #7
Haha, thank you, Crypt Incursion has been absolutely amazing, especially since I'm in a pretty dredge-heavy meta right now. Even then when I've killed 3 or 4 creatures it's like "Gain 12 life for 3 mana? Seems okay.".
The main reason I went with Lotleth Troll over Scavenging Ooze was because of his defensive capabilities. Since the aim of the deck is to kind of turtle up while passive effects ping down the opponent. I'll do some testing with Scooze though and see what's what.
Basically green is just in here for the removal and Lotleth Troll . The reason I prefer it is solely because with Abrupt Decay and Putrefy I can hit nonland permanents that can cause a lot of grief on my end. Plus having Vraska the Unseen available is really nice. Although I do like the pure Rakdos build a lot. Are there any cards outside of removal that might benefit me in that build? This deck is supposed to work slow while Rakdos colors tend to be full of fast little things. Just cause Lotleth is such an asset in this deck.
Thanks so much though, I've got a lot of good ideas to work with now.
April 29, 2014 11:11 p.m.
big fan of shrieking affliction. i play it with rakdos' return and sire of insanity, and itsbest in conjunction with blood scrivener at mid- late game and thoughtsieze / duress.
im not really sure about the Jund colours, however thats just not me.
+1, for originality. hope it works for ya.
May 1, 2014 8:54 p.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #9
Oh nice deck! I am playing rakdos control and now I see how awesome Jund is and I think I will make Jund!
chrispmatth says... #1
Definitely play Mogis and Desecration over Reavers and one pack rat. Mogis is another Rack effect that really helps you get to the end game quickly. I'd also say mainboard one or two slaughter games to completely drop someone's win con (A La Gray Merchant of Asphodel , Elspeth, Sun's Champion , Blood Baron of Vizkopa , AEtherling , or for Sphinx's Revelation , And since you'll be looking at their hand constantly you'll almost never whiff on a game one Slaughter Games.
April 10, 2014 10:37 a.m.