Darksteel Relic is the most useful card ever

Modern mossflower

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01021990 says... #1

I would add 2 more lands. 18 isn't enought.

June 12, 2011 6:01 a.m.

TylerJohns says... #2

Or another sphere and mox 1 land and take out jor kadeen

June 12, 2011 6:08 a.m.

cooknathan says... #3

Pretty funny and quite effective +1I agree tho more lands.

June 12, 2011 6:10 a.m.

mossflower says... #4

To try to address the mana issue, I added 1x of Mox Opal , Sphere of the Suns , and a mountain. I also put in Spiraling Duelist and moved some stuff to the sideboard. If it weren't for Mox Opal , I could actually afford this deck, but artifact ramp works so much better than putting in more lands.... sigh

June 12, 2011 5:36 p.m.

crg77 says... #5

Mox Opal is a legendary artifact.

June 12, 2011 6:51 p.m.

mrhappystick11 says... #6

Puresteel Paladin wouldn't be bad for this deck. Helps give you draw and you could run some bigger artifacts. I would cut back on the legendary cards. They just become dead cards in your hand if you get more than one. I normally run 2 unless they are needed cards for the deck concept. Other cards to look at are Kor Duelist ,Mycosynth Wellspring , and Glint Hawk Idol

June 12, 2011 6:56 p.m.

mossflower says... #7

Puresteel Paladin works great in here, especially now that I have both card:Accorder's Shield and Basilisk Collar . I cut back a bit on the legendary cards in order to include those. I also finagled with the mana base a bit more: I think it's where it needs to be now.

Thanks for the input.

June 13, 2011 12:13 a.m.

Redarmy1917 says... #8

Needs more Artillerize ing the Darksteel Relic s.

June 13, 2011 12:44 a.m.

donut62 says... #9

June 13, 2011 6:32 a.m.

Demarge says... #10

I would suggest taking out 1 or even two of the Bludgeon Brawl s for something else as after the first one is out all the rest in your deck becomes dead draws (unless your opponent kills the first one). Also I'd say cut the Spiraling Duelist s for Mirran Crusader or Auriok Edgewright both are cheaper in cmc for nearly the same effect.

June 13, 2011 7:04 a.m.

mossflower says... #11

I don't like the idea of Artillerize because it helps deactivate metalcraft, which is bad.

As for removing the Spiraling Duelist for a smaller mana curve, I have a few reasons I'd rather not: Its the only 4-drop on my curve, it keeps me more or less even between Red and White, and a 3/1 double-striker IS better than a 2/2 double-striker, especially when equipped with Basilisk Collar or something from Bludgeon Brawl . Mirran Crusader is probably still the better card because of the protection from black and green, but I like the idea of using a far less-used card that is only marginally less-efficient.

Now I feel like I need to explain why I insist on running 4x Bludgeon Brawl and 3x of all my legendary cards: I need them. This deck depends so much on getting a Bludgeon Brawl out by turn 3 or 4, that I'm willing to risk having dead draws in the late game. The legends have a similar issue where they add so much to the field that they become removal magnets; I actually want more of them in hand to replace those that get destroyed.

June 13, 2011 3 p.m.

mossflower says... #12

Mirran crusader is too good in certain matchups to pass; I'll stick it in the sideboard.

Thanks again for the input, guys.

June 13, 2011 3:03 p.m.

Dmci says... #13

IMO

-1 Mox Opal , +1 Plains (for the double white creatures)

-1 Kemba, Kha Regent , +1 Sword of War and Peace

-1 card:Accorder's Shield (I really dislike it, but it's your own preference) +2 Sickleslicer

Other than that, very good :)

June 13, 2011 6:27 p.m.

Dmci says... #14

Damnit, I meant +1 Sickleslicer , not +2!

June 13, 2011 6:27 p.m.

JesusChrist says... #15

I don't agree with adding Sickleslicer , i mean yeah, its another body but you are paying 3 more mana than you would if you just played Prophetic Prism , then you also get a draw. Another 2 cents would be adding in a Sun Titan or two to bring back any lost creatures or artifacts, or basically your whole deck. More lands of course and I +1 before I even saw the whole deck, good job.

June 13, 2011 7 p.m.

mossflower says... #16

Not really feeling the Sickleslicer , either. I also want to avoid all the swords because this deck doesn't really need them, and well, people use them too much.

And I guess I will go up to 20 lands, since the consensus seems to be that it's necessary.

June 13, 2011 11:26 p.m.

Dmci says... #17

The 20 lands are necessary, but 3 mox opals aren't.

And you can't not want swords because other people use them!It's not like Stoneforge Mystic and Squadron Hawk !The swords are good by popular agreement not mindless following!If not Sickleslicer then some other equipment :)

June 14, 2011 4:24 a.m.

Bhambre says... #18

Galvanic Blast should be mb. ds relics arent all that usefull unless you have the gaveleer so make him a 4 of or drop a relic.

June 14, 2011 5:03 a.m.

Demarge says... #19

Another reason I suggested that you swap out Spiraling Duelist is due to the fact that your mana curve is forced to be even 50/50 on red and white mana due to it which reduces the chance that your 6 cards that run double white have a high chance of having to wait 2-3 extra turns until you have the needed mana.

June 14, 2011 7:45 a.m.

Demarge says... #20

Also maybe run 2 Tectonic Edge s. If you do you would have 20 lands as the other people suggested, but you could have it in your head that they are removal spells with mana benefits!

June 14, 2011 7:54 a.m.

mossflower says... #21

@Dmci, Yeah, I'm not going to lie and say that the swords are a bad idea, but my inner Johnny pummels my inner Spike and won't let me put them in. card:Accorder's Shield and Basilisk Collar will do. In fact, they help power a 3-turn god play I just came up with! I put it in the deck-description.

@Bhambre, I do want to mainboard both Galvanic Blast and Dispatch , but with them, I can't find a way to have enough lands to have a good mana base, enough artifacts to guarantee metalcraft, and enough creatures to have a meaningful field presence. I agree on the 4x Goblin Gaveleer , so I put it back up to that number.

@Demarge, I realize that the 50/50 split of colors makes the 2-color whites harder to play, but thankfully, Mox Opal , Sphere of the Suns , and Prophetic Prism help out with that. As I mentioned to Dmci, I'm more of a Johnny than a Spike, and Spiraling Duelist has so much synergy with the rest of the deck that I really want to keep it in there. Since I'm going to keep this wonky color-split, you can see why I wouldn't want Tectonic Edge .

June 14, 2011 5:19 p.m.

Bhambre says... #22

despite that i really think galvanic blast really should be in there as 2 damage for one mana is still good meaning that its still a good card without metalcraft. plus you have no removal which is generally never a good thing as you are both red and white, colors that are notorious for excellent spot removal. you really arent takin advantage of whats available for your colors.

June 14, 2011 6:07 p.m.

Kalani says... #23

this is the jankiest combo deck i've ever seen. I love it. Well done.

Plus.One

June 15, 2011 4:20 a.m.

lporiginalg says... #24

Hey cool deck bro, I plus one'd but please explain to me why you want more darksteels than shields, is it only because you get to attach it for free with the 3 card combo? I dunno I just think the shield is more useful in this deck than the relic but maybe I'm missing something...

June 15, 2011 4:31 p.m.

mossflower says... #25

To everyone who has plus one'd my deck, thank you. Glad to see you guys think this deck is as fun as I do.

As for why I have more Darksteel Relic s than card:Accorder's Shield: Well, yeah, it was mainly because of the combo. But, thinking on it, I see that the shield is probably more useful. I'll switch the numbers.

June 15, 2011 5:31 p.m.

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