Dead Marshes (Self-Mill)

Modern Fleetfiend

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Fleetfiend says... #1

Yeah, I definitely think I like Devastation TideMTG Card: Devastation Tide in this sideboard, especially since everything but Kessig CagebreakersMTG Card: Kessig Cagebreakers won't lose any power that way.

Haha I may run two Woodland CemeteryMTG Card: Woodland Cemetery and one Drowned CatacombMTG Card: Drowned Catacomb, largely because that's what I currently own. However I might just take Forbidden AlchemyMTG Card: Forbidden Alchemy out... I just really like it, because it gives me the ability to put whatever I need into my hand, wheras I may end up with land out the wazoo (happens a lot) because of MulchMTG Card: Mulch.

I will be sure to let you know how it goes! This is the last official week of school, so I'm going to try and go as soon as next Friday, if the cards I need arrive in time.

May 14, 2012 9:19 p.m.

If it's not too much work try to record a play-by-play of your games at FNM and type it up here. It would be awesome to see some in-depth info on how this deck fares in the current meta.

May 15, 2012 1:54 a.m.

Fleetfiend says... #3

I'll try! If anything, I'll just give a brief recap of each game. I'm not sure if I have anything to decently record it with besides pen and paper (unless my boyfriend decides he isn't going to do booster draft, in which case I will get him to record on his iPhone. xD)

May 15, 2012 1:28 p.m.

I probably would be using pen and paper if I were to make a play-by-play. Simple notes like T1-> Birds gets the job done. A brief recap should be just as good though.

May 15, 2012 3:34 p.m.

floopthepig says... #5

G/U grave power... i love it.

For tokens there are 2 options i love 1 Unsummon and all its similar cards. reason being the instant speed of Unsummon can remove targets that are being populated making populate fizzle. You could try going old fashioned and simply Prey Upon or even just Sleep could let you get a kill shot granted they are not the classiest ways to win but you should be the biggest guy on the field and both should help

Wreath of Geists is powerful in this mix but the lack of trample is a little troubling consider Rancor if you could combine both cards even an Arbor Elf could kill

October 30, 2012 11:23 p.m.

Fleetfiend says... #6

@floothepig

Definitely some nice suggestions, but I dunno if I necessarily have the room to fit them.

Well, Splinterfright already has trample, and if I get some tokens out with Kessig Cagebreakers I don't necessarily need it, as a great number of tokens will get around almost any defense. Rancor 's ability to return is nice... but since it only goes back to your hand from when it enters the graveyard specifically from the battlefield, it will end up in the grave most of the time anyways. One reason I instead ran Wreath of Geists is so that Silklash Spider would put a stop to that obnoxious little hexproof Sigarda, Host of Herons if I was faced with her. And if not, it could double the power of a Splinter. >:3

October 30, 2012 11:42 p.m.

Jarrheadd0 says... #7

Mulch is nice, but if you find that you keep dumping cards into your graveyard that you'd rather have in your hand, you could try Forbidden Alchemy , maybe even add a splash of black mana for a late game flashback.

October 31, 2012 3:47 a.m.

Long_Con says... #8

What's with Codex Shredder ? I can't seem to find a way that's not a crappy card. Sands of Delirium is much better mill.

October 31, 2012 9:32 a.m.

TheFrozenFox says... #9

G/U does not really have the Maelstrom Pulse removal. The closes to it are going to be Detention Sphere and Supreme Verdict but I would not recommend going Bant because the deck would be less consistent. Your best bets are honestly going to be Devastation Tide /Cyclonic Rift .

For self-milling have you considered Chronic Flooding ?

Also how does this deck work with all of the post board GY hate? Like card:Tormod's Crypt and Rest in Peace ? I would consider 4 Negate sideboard to counter that.

To throw in some more win-cons how about Psychic Spiral or Laboratory Maniac ?

October 31, 2012 12:45 p.m.

Fleetfiend says... #10

@Jarheadd0 I already have both Forbidden Alchemy and some black provided by Woodland Cemetery ...

@Long_Con Codex Shredder isn't bad, for sure. It's a good first-turn miller, that will give me the ability to get back a card that I need from the graveyard if I need it. Sands of Delirium is good milling ((Increasing Confusion , as well)), but I don't necessarily need much more than what I have. As it is I sometimes get a bit close to milling myself out, and if I do want to mill a few I usually am not going to want to do more than what Dream Twist provides me for the cost. I may try it out and see how it goes though.

@TheFrozenFox Chronic Flooding is in my maybe-board, so yeah I had thought about it... however I don't like pushing myself into a corner where I HAVE to mill if I want to use that mana. It's already scary enough with Splinterfright . As for all the GY hate, that's the primary reason why I'm running 3x Dissipate .Those win conditions are pretty wicked though. I knew about Laboratory Maniac , but I hadn't seen Psychic Spiral . May run a few test games with those puppies, and throw in more power self-mills like was previously suggested.

Thanks for the comments!

October 31, 2012 3:53 p.m.

TheFrozenFox says... #11

I want to see a deck that incorporates Psychic Spiral as I think it would be hilarious.

October 31, 2012 4:38 p.m.

TheFrozenFox says... #12

I want to see a deck that incorporates Psychic Spiral as I think it would be hilarious.

October 31, 2012 4:38 p.m.

floopthepig says... #13

card:Tracker's Instincts and Creeping Renaissance are cool to consider

and card:Ghoulcaller's Bell could work better if you're going for Psychic Spiral

October 31, 2012 10:06 p.m.

Demarge says... #14

First of all the update section has a nice feature that will hide these old comments.

As for the deck I think Acidic Slime might be better than both non creature Disenchant spells and I also believe the deck might see a boost in efficiency if you'd add a couple more land.

November 11, 2012 10:25 p.m.

Fleetfiend says... #15

Yeah, that was another option that I was definitely considering, but I usually kept Acidic Slime sideboarded because of the relatively high CMC.

If I was to move him to the mainboard, do you think it would be best to remove Naturalize /Bramblecrush /Sundering Growth out of the sideboard entirely, or should I hold on to them?

The reason I had Naturalize in the main currently was because of the low cost. If I played against a deck that gave me trouble from lands or planeswalkers, I would switch out for Bramblecrush , and if Naturalize didn't give me much use I would switch for Acidic Slime to be a nuisance.

November 11, 2012 10:32 p.m.

Long_Con says... #16

Splash black for Grisly Salvage ! Easy enough in today's multicoloured environment. Could even put 2 Lotleth Troll s then, but that might be too much. :)

November 12, 2012 10:44 a.m.

Fleetfiend says... #17

@Long_Con yeah I'm definitely planning on swapping Mulch for Grisly Salvage once I acquire some Drowned Catacomb , and probably making room for card:Jarad's Orders as well. _

November 12, 2012 1:37 p.m.

shift says... #18

-2 sheltering word, -2 dream twist, +3 trackers instincts, +1 gnaw to the bone, I run something sorta like this I've been reimproving. you shouldnt worry bout protecting your creatures much so gnaw to the bone seems better than sheltering word, you wanna grab creatures and still mill 3 with trackers instincts. Love the deck +1

December 11, 2012 7:49 p.m.

shift says... #19

Oh yeah great sb card for you would be Laboratory Maniac

December 11, 2012 7:51 p.m.

Fleetfiend says... #22

shift, I was definitely on the fence about having Sheltering Word in the mainboard, but there is no way I am going to take out Dream Twist . It's probably the quickest milling that I have in the deck, and is the card that I hope to be able to play on turn 1. If nothing else I was thinking about putting more in. xD

I have an additional Gnaw to the Bone in the sideboard in case things get itchy, but usually 1 is plenty to have in the main, since I can cast it with flashback if it gets milled.

I definitely see how Laboratory Maniac would be useful, but the problem is I wouldn't really know WHEN to switch it into the main (besides against mill decks I suppose xD). I may switch it out for Dungeon Geists , since that doesn't seem to be incredibly useful in current meta.

Thanks for the upvote and comment! :3

December 11, 2012 8:02 p.m.

Fleetfiend says... #24

Nivrix, could you please offer some sort of explanation or justification for those changes rather than just telling what to change? As it is, that isn't very helpful.

Dream Twist is cheap, easy milling, Gnaw to the Bone has saved my life several times, and Armored Skaab is more good milling and a chump blocker.

Psychic Spiral is good, but that is not the win condition I am going for here. Mirror-Mad Phantasm is also awesome milling, but I'm not sure that it's worth the mana cost when I could pull out Kessig Cagebreakers or Acidic Slime instead.

I made another version of the deck called The Floodgates that uses those cards, but I don't think I want to use them in this version, because I don't really see a reason to use them over the other cards, and I'm not sure you do either since you didn't bother to explain. xD

December 12, 2012 4:38 p.m.

Nivrix says... #25

Sorry about that... I was in a hurry... The Psychic Spiral s can be used to mill out your opponent if they're running most control decks... It also refills your deck with cards you may need. (or refills your graveyard with better things for Splinterfright or Kessig)

I'm just not a fan of Armored Skaab in here, and I think Mirror-Mad will get you what you want the deck to do much faster.

As for Deranged Assistant , why not? :P

Also... don't completely throw out Boneyard Wurm ... he's a beast in a deck like this.

December 12, 2012 7:49 p.m.

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