death and taxes

Legacy zachi

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zachi says... #1

there is land destruction in this format. They tap for white mana as well as bounce a legend so i can save my guys as well.

September 2, 2014 11:43 p.m.

voodoomaster says... #2

I would add more 1 or 2 more priest to the sideboard, maybe add one to the mainboard

December 20, 2014 6:44 p.m.

Shathief says... #3

I like the deck even though I play reanimater... I am still new to the meta so its good to see what I need to interact with.

You do have a really good sideboard for a reanimater match-up - and the 3 Karakas will be tough to play around.

Just curious - why is this deck called death and taxes? what card/synergy is that referring to?

December 22, 2014 11:55 p.m.

zachi says... #4

its referring to taxing the other player. if you put a legendary creature into play, i send it to your hand via Karakas. You play combo, i put Thalia, Guardian of Thraben. Phyrexian Revoker your Lotus Petal, Pithing Needle your dual land. My job is to make it so you cant do much of anything while my thalia, brimaz or avenger swings at your contently

December 23, 2014 5:03 p.m.

smackjack says... #5

How is Brimaz working for you? Im thinking of including him in my D&T deck. I only have one Karakas, do you still think he would be good?

Also, are Eiganjo Castle doing anything for you? It doesnt do much for thalia as she still can be bolted and its few situations where it helps in combat.. Wouldnt it be better as a basic plains to reduce the count of wastelandable lands?

January 17, 2015 4:19 a.m.

zachi says... #6

im still playing around with castle. It hasnt served use as of yet, but i've only playtested with this change recently. Brimaz is just another beater. get Mother of Runes out and protect him while he has a sword on him and beat them. I used to run him as a two of but i dropped it to one because even though hes nice, i feel like hes is on my chopping block till a better card comes around.

January 19, 2015 1:01 a.m.

kameenook says... #7

Karakas + Mangara of Corondor is by no means slow. Legacy Death and Taxes has the liberty to play this combo, because it very likely will win the game.

January 22, 2015 3:03 p.m.

zachi says... #8

I've been playing this deck for a little while now with and without mangara and i have no issues with him not in the deck. Yes, i cant exile lands, but it all comes down to the player

January 22, 2015 11:17 p.m.

kameenook says... #9

That combo is more just a way to ensure victory, you can exile your opponents troublesome non-land permanents, and then continue finishing off their lands.

January 23, 2015 10:09 a.m.

gnizz00 says... #10

whats the meaning of death and taxes, and how does the archtype work? Someone please explain this to me!

March 4, 2015 2:22 p.m.

zachi says... #11

it basically taxes the opponent. your counterspells cost more with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben out. you cant really search with Aven Mindcensor out. i can turn off quite alot with Pithing Needle and Phyrexian Revoker. Rest in Peace stops re animator. Grafdigger's Cage stops a deck i cant remember. kinda get what im getting at?

March 4, 2015 2:27 p.m.

gnizz00 says... #12

zachi Thanks bro! Really thanks!

March 4, 2015 2:39 p.m.

smackjack says... #13

Have you tried playing with Horse-Thalia? Im considering it, but im not sure its good enough..

January 16, 2016 11:50 a.m.

zachi says... #14

I've heard alot of back and forth on it. I would assume your build will be dependent on if you want to go more hatebear or control. I might look at two lists for each side and see which i like better

January 16, 2016 1:46 p.m.

smackjack says... #15

I mean its no Thalia. If you cast Horse-Thalia and they bolt it, they spend 2 mana to remove a 3 mana threat. Thalia is always value. However, more thalia effects is nice with Wasteland and Port...

January 16, 2016 2:16 p.m.

zachi says... #16

oh yeah it is. But I've been talking with alot of people about how i want to move my deck forward. People were bringing up how my deck is more hatebear but i wouldnt mind it being more control. I originally had this as a hybrid deck between maverick and death and taxes, but i pushed it more this direction. horse thalia would be more control, so i would take out my brimaz and a serra to put in horse for more control and just use jitte and thalia to beat face while using castle and karakas to save thalia

January 16, 2016 2:29 p.m.

zachi says... #17

i've played this alot and found mangara/karakas is a little too slow. even looking at other lists, hes a maybe 1 of in the main. and what enchantment are you talking about?

Im using the tutor for the combo im running, ontop of the other tools in the deck. if further playing shows its too fringe or weak it will go.

March 28, 2016 7:24 p.m.

zachi says... #18

If omniscience is on the filed, enter the infinite will follow right after and thats game 1 lost.

March 30, 2016 8:49 a.m.

zachi says... #19

So when i see mangara, i see a window. That one turn window for the omnitell player to play Enter the Infinite with no response. My thought is that with the current meta, mangara is too slow. Takes one turn to get online when i would need something to be online the moment its on the field.

March 30, 2016 12:50 p.m.

chicagobearz says... #20

Stinkin omni can go off with Cunning Wish at instant speed. Where Oblivion Ring and Venser, Shaper Savant use to work so well, they do not any longer. Best card in the sb might be Ethersworn Canonist to put in for the SnT, then some type of removal. Managara is so good with Karakas, but is a bit slow, so both points are valid. Sounds like a call based on the meta, or if you play online just switch the deck around to fit you mood for the day. As well as my sb i usually carry 30-50 other cards that are legit options to move into the mb or sb of my decks. A non managara list could be cool for a while, then you fall back in love with it, then out again. I am interested in the impact of all the green hate, 2x mirran and the sword of feet and fam. My meta has so few goyfs so it might scew my opinion, but i run mb 1x mirran, 1x mangara, and sb 1x mirran, but have put the sword in the sb from time to time.

March 30, 2016 2:04 p.m.

amanarpl says... #21

maybe crappy card could help you?

Nevermore

September 10, 2016 6:52 p.m.

catrule3564 says... #22

Althogh it is somewhat meta-dependant, I would swap out the Sword of Feast and Famine in your SB for either Sword of Light and Shadow or Sword of War and Peace. Pro white is super relevant against Miracles and in the mirror. With some light disruption, SoWaP is also a legit way to race combo decks.

If Omni-Tell is still a concern for you, Leonin Relic-Warder, Disenchant, or Seal of Cleansing are all good answers to Omniscience that also help in Stoneforge mirrors.

If you want to take a look at the list I'm currently tesing you can see it here.

November 30, 2016 6:32 p.m.

WesomeNight says... #23

I hear Disenchant is a thing, but you should try to fit more Mangara of Corondor... BTW why doesn't anyone play Konda's Banner or Elbrus, the Binding Blade  Flip as another beater that blinks with the land.

If anything you are playing white so slow them down with Rishadan Port and Wasteland. If they Show and Tell then use Containment Priest. Silence is also a good option too keep them off turn.

December 13, 2016 12:30 p.m.

zachi says... #24

that is why those cards are in my list

elbrus is just too expensive for legacy. Even with stone forge i would almost 100% grab jitte or batterskull over it. and konda's banner i feel is too niche. The reason i cut mangara is i just feel its too slow in the current meta. playing him turn 3 then having to wait turn 4, i would much rather turn three a thalia and have mana open for a swords or port and swords

December 13, 2016 12:41 p.m.

smackjack says... #25

Mangara is a good target for Recruiter of the Guard if you really need to remove something.

December 13, 2016 12:53 p.m.

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