Metroid_Hybrid says... #3
@MindAblaze!; Wowie-wow-wow! I think Bloodghast is a phenomenal card! Unfortunately A) I don't own any.. (sad face..) and B) I'm not really sure where I would fit it in, considering how everything tends to have a specific synergy with (nearly) everything else.. But what would you consider trading out for it?
I have a feeling though-- that if I did have a set I probably would've already put together a bitchin' Mono-Black Vampire deck accordingly, either that, or try to fit 1 or 2 into my sacrificial Innistrad Slaughterhouse.. deck..
Other than that, what do you think of this particular deck thus far? :)
December 17, 2013 5:56 p.m.
Needs more removal, also consider Pack Rat . Each token DOES add to devotion and it's a great way to drop extra removal spells or lands when they no creatures or you're mana flooded. I'd drop Lashwrithe , Runechanter's Pike , Bad Moon , Dash Hopes , and Royal Assassin for 4x Hero's Downfall for planeswalker hate and 2x Pack Rat for consistency. You could also easily run 22 lands instead of 24 opening room for 2x Doom Blade . 2x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx could be very helpful as well. These changes will add a ton of consistency and competitiveness to the deck.
December 17, 2013 6:15 p.m.
Also, 2x Whip of Erebos would be great. It combo's with Gray Merchant of Asphodel extremely well since you can bring it back from the graveyard and get its eotb effect twice, in addition to life link making the deck stronger. You should be running 4x Gray Merchant of Asphodel as well. Maybe drop a Vampire Nighthawk for it, since he has the least board impact.
December 17, 2013 6:18 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #7
Being as this is more control I don't know if Bloodghast
really fits here anyway. I just thought I'd throw it out there because I've heard whisperings that it goes well with Devotion, and I've seen a number of MBD builds for Modern lately.
If I had to pick something it seems like the singleton Bad Moon (wicked anthem for black weenie though!) and Runechanter's Pike would be what I'd cut. Anthems are best when they can stack, and only running one has a minimal impact on your guys individually. Runechanter's Pike is on my short list because you only run 13 instant and sorceries. The chances of getting more than a +2/+0 boost aren't huge, although First Strike on any of your guys isn't bad. It almost makes the Obliterator worse though. Makes him (it?) a lot easier to chump block, since it no longer takes damage.
I personally like Dash Hopes as a singleton. If you're comfortable always getting the less advantageous option then run it all the way. In this case 2 mana for a hard counter OR a five life drain is good either way.
I wonder... Do you feel like 24 land is necessary or could you get away with going down to 22? It would make squeezing a few of those extra cards you're talking about above in without hurting you too much. Add a couple Nykthos and those Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
s and you could easily get away with it.
December 17, 2013 6:24 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #8
How about some Mimic Vat works wonders with Gatekeeper of Malakir and Gary
December 17, 2013 6:32 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #10
Kicks ass with Geralf's Messenger as well.
I'm currently building a modern devotion deck with the same tactic and also running 4x Isochron Scepter with Geth's Verdict Naturalize and Remand (may be swapped to Mana Leak or Echoing Truth to fully utilize Grave Pact and the defense system I use Mortician Beetle as the 1 drop.
December 17, 2013 6:42 p.m.
I will add 1 or 2 Lashwrithe (it is often the card which wins the game in my deck The Dark Realms ssp. Modern). And why not profit from the devotion in rampa by Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx ? ;) I like this mono-black deck!
December 17, 2013 7:42 p.m.
This is the deck! I've been looking for you thank you. You inspired this. You get credit in the description. Thanks again and plus one. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/making-friends-and-influencing-people/
December 17, 2013 10:08 p.m.
ShermanTank87 says... #14
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Geth's Verdict for creature removal. I know it's lacking in targeted removal but it gets around creatures protection from black and it makes your opponent choose; which can be fun to watch itself. Also, if opponent only has 1 creature out just as good as anything else. But thats just one of my own preference for creature removal. The deck I am working on also centers around Phyrexian Obliterator if you want to check it out it's called Phyrexian Nightmare.
December 19, 2013 4:25 p.m.
Inquisitor's Flail on your obliterator will make any opponent quit.
December 20, 2013 12:07 a.m.
Nice i realy like this deck its seems pretty good.And for matbyrne never thought about that Card together with the phyxerian obliterator. That would no more than just be insane xD thanks for that i am making a mono-Black deck with that guy by myself.
December 28, 2013 5:43 p.m.
Thank you zZAZz. I am glad you can crush people in fun ways. Lol.
December 29, 2013 8:53 a.m.
Well Phyrexian Obliterator is no longer underrated. How does that make you feel?
December 29, 2013 9:01 a.m.
Thank you it is actuely a realy good idea never thought about it. :)
December 29, 2013 10:04 a.m.
damtgmaster473 says... #22
try Deathrite Shaman , Overgrown Tomb and Verdant Catacombs
December 29, 2013 5:58 p.m.
Metroid_Hybrid says... #23
Thanks guys!! I've taken in to consideration what several of you have suggested, and as a result have finally dropped several of the less popular singles in favor of upping everything else that others agreed was awesome..
rksherman3: While I agree that Geth's Verdict is good source of removal, if you take another look, the forced sacrifice effect is already covered by a playset of Gatekeeper of Malakir .. And while the Gatekeeper technically costs one more, it also gives me a bear (w/ 2-devotion) to work with..
matbyrne: Thanks, an Inquisitor's Flail or two might be in this decks future..
@Dorotheus: Makes me glad I already had my playset of Obliterators long before Theros came out! :)
@damtgmaster473: No.. If you read the 'budget note' at the beginning of the description (or the 'conclusion' at the end) you would easily be able to infer that I'm not about to be dropping hundreds of dollars on fetch-lands, plus that would open me up for Hatebear type shenanigans too.. No thank you, I intend on keeping this Mono-Black for the time being..
December 30, 2013 4:39 p.m.
Emrakul-the-Format-Broken says... #24
There needs to be a Crypt Ghast in there somewhere. Ramp and extort.
December 30, 2013 4:52 p.m.
Emrakul-the-Format-Broken says... #25
Need help for the sideboard? My only decent deck is mono-black, so I know tat finding a good sideboard for it is a challenge. Pull out the Crusaders and put in 4 Torpor Orb s. Melira Pod and Splinter Twin decks will never hurt you again. Also, run a couple Crypt Ghast s in mainboard. The best possible use for them, and of course, extortion is fun. It's also hilarious (As long as you have Ghasts) to run a single Army of the Damned . Watch the look on your face. Even if they counter, just flashback it once they've forgotten about it. Especially since nobody runs board wipes anymore.
Metroid_Hybrid says... #1
Wow, no love at all for Dash Hopes ?! Just like it's Red cousin Browbeat , it's mainly there for the early 5-damage, especially since my 2-drop curve is severely lacking.. Which leads into the next issue...
Runechanter's Pike is a remnant from when this was a heavier discard/control type deck (there was originally three..), but sticks around because it makes for a decent turn-2 drop for later (it comes out sooner than Lashwrithe ), but mainly because the First-Strike alone that it provides turns Vampire Nighthawk into one of the scariest creatures in existence..
@Cipher001: I really like the suggestion for Nantuko Shade as it would be a fabulous late-game mana sink, I'd like to squeeze one in, but I'm really not sure what to trade out for it..
All-in-all; I'm loving all the votes & feedback! In the short-term I plan on getting ahold of another Phyrexian Arena to replace a single Sign in Blood (so they would balance at 2&2), and I may eventually find a way to wiggle in another Bad Moon , but as far as Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is concerned; I really don't feel like getting one of those until I have at least a single Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth for hopefully obvious reasons..
Oh and @lil_cheez; Thanks-- that's what she said!! XD
December 17, 2013 4:19 p.m.