I'd go with Dissipate over Cancel , -2 Negate for +2 Prime Speaker Zegana for more card draw, and if it's in the budget I'd throw in some Genesis Hydra 's and some Chord of Calling , and in the Sideboard -1 Archetype of Imagination -1 AEtherspouts for +2 Mistcutter Hydra

@Kiora_Fan-01 thanks for the comment!

I'll definitely run Dissipate over Cancel . Not sure why I didn't notice that before, it's significantly better. Prime Speaker Zegana is rotating out, so I won't be investing in that one.

Chord of Calling is a tough one for me. It's expensive and restrictive to cast, and I don't have a ton of creatures to convoke with. Also, the only creatures worth chording have quite high CMC, so I'm not sure I'll even be able to get them when I want. I'll definitely think about it though!

The hydras are tempting. Right now I don't really have a reason not to run them other than I the fact that I don't currently own any, and that I'm partial to the Krakens because they don't get much (read: any) play. I'll keep them in mind if I ever want to take this deck in that direction though.

Looks good, but with prophet spouts should be viable shouldn't it? It's a strong card when you are behind, but if you are a head I can see you wanting to draw something better. Maybe the new jace might help smooth out your draws and make another tempo play in a pinch.

@sir_nibb

AEtherspouts is okay, the main problem like you said is almost always wanting something else. It's limiting that they have to be attacking so it often can only hit 1 or two creatures, since by game 2 they're typically wary of over-extending.

Jace, the Living Guildpact is certainly interesting, I hadn't looked at him too closely yet. The only problem I see is he competes with Kiora, the Crashing Wave for the 4-drop spot, and her card draw is just too handy. I'm also not too sure what I would take out to put him in, but I'll try running him maybe alongside Kiora and see how I feel about him.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Looks pretty solid to me. I would consider getting some more early game defense and maybe draw fixing. The obvious answer would be Courser of Kruphix for both, but cards like Wall of Frost and Thassa, God of the Sea would work as well. An upcoming card to look at is Dragon's Eye Savants , a 0/6 2-drop that can also give vital information for counterspells and/or when to flash things in. You could also consider Ranger's Guile to protect stuff without strict counterspells, and to get in that last bit of damage. Good luck!

@subrosian

Great suggestions! I would run Courser of Kruphix , except for the fact that I don't own any, and the price is a little steep for my blood right now. But I will playtest, and if it makes a big difference, i might have to break the bank.

Thassa, I've tried. I find the scry doesn't make up for the fact that if I draw another one, it's a dead draw. I won't be able to get her online to block at any reasonable point of the game, and if I do, I'm winning anyway because Krakens are out. She seems great and I'd love to make her work, but I've only ever been underwhelmed by her.

Dakra Mystic though, I'm going to try due to your successes with her in your deck.

Dragon's Eye Savants will be getting a shot when Khans comes in. With Trail of Mystery and Rattleclaw Mystic things could get very fun.

Again thanks for the suggestions, and don't forget to +1 if you like it guys!

Oh yeah you're right, Dakra Mystic would definitely work too... No idea why I didn't mention that for this deck. Haha.

-3 Divination , +3 Jace's Ingenuity

The instant speed is well worth the extra cost. By the time i need to refill I should easily have 5 mana ready, and Prophet of Kruphix ensures I can refill on their end step to keep my turns flowing well.

How about Jalira, Master Polymorphist

@Vuybi

Very interesting suggestion. My only problem with it is that Tromokratis is Legendary so I would just be hoping to hit Stormtide Leviathan and that seems a bit narrow. But I'll give it a shot to see if it's viable, what would you suggest taking out?

Instead of Tromokratis try Pearl Lake Ancient . and take out Prophet of Kruphix Void Snare fo Jalira, Master Polymorphist

@Vuybi

That could work.
I like Tromokratis alot because it messes up their blocking plans big time and has big board presence, wheres Pearl Lake Ancient can be chumped. But if I like Jalira, Master Polymorphist in playtesting then it might be worth the switch.

During a draft I actually got to pull off the Jalira/Stormtide combo... it was hilarious to sac a soldier token to get the leviathin.

Did some playtesting with Jalira, Master Polymorphist , and while I see the potential, I wound up mostly paying 3 to replace a mana dork on turn 5. By that point I would rather be using that 3 to counter or bounce and set up to put one of my fatties down.

I like her, I just feel she's a card you have to build around pretty significantly to maximize her use in Standard.

Unexpected Results was my favorite card to play in my Kraken deck. As Khans now enters the rotation I am looking forward to See the Unwritten as a sort of replacement. 4GG with a chance to put into play 2 creatures can save you a turn or more on getting your Kraken creatures out. I too am looking at Temur, but am also curious about Sultani as well. For Sultani I like Kheru Dreadmaw and Taigam's Scheming.

@Sharpeimagine

See the Unwritten is definitely going to get a trial run for Khans. I'll only ever get to drop 2 creatures if I already have a Kraken out, but that would basically win the game most times. I still think it's worth it to be able to potentially get a Stormtide Leviathan out 2 turns earlier (T4 if I draw and ramp well). Granted that won't often (ever?) happen, but it could also save me late game if I'm not seeing any fatties. Maybe try it as a 2-of?

My biggest problem now is what do I take out? Especially when I make the switch to Temur, it's going to get tricky to balance mana-ramping and having spells in hand to play.

I would probably say drop a handful of counters. The idea should be on getting your Kraken's out asap and more focus on mana generation should be substituted. I would drop Kruphix as I would not be so worried about flashing in your Kraken's. See the Unseen is going to be your go to card and you want that played asap. Verdant Haven and Market Festival can help you generate more mana. Take out the Dissolve's and just keep Negate and Dissipate. With the less use of counter's will help you make more decisive decisions on which card will be more of a threat. Burning Anger can also be a fun card to play as a big theme looks to be a lot of life gain. Especially if you play Kiora and pump her up to 5 loyalty then get her emblem. Switch out a Tromo for another Stormtide because how awesome is it to have a better chance of StU 2 Stormtide's?

like it (+1) any tips for my mono blue version watery grave... no seriously

@grizzell
Thanks for the upvote! I'll check yours out, any deck that's slinging Krakens is good in my books.

@Sharpeimagine
Definitely something to consider. I would love to keep the control theme that I have now through rotation, but I've been playtesting some khans games and I just don't know if it's feasible.

Against walker decks I just get ruined. It's too hard to come back once I'm behind against them, since countering doesn't do a whole lot once they're on the field.

What does everything think? Is there a way to salvage my control build post-rotation, or should I just go full out ramp mode into krakens and keep a few counters for late game removal?

For your sideboard, AEtherspouts is a great card, and Curse of the Swine are great cards. However, you have too many counterspells in your sideboard that could be used for creatures that prevent aggro, or control, etc. Therefore, you could make use of Anger of the Gods for aggro as it just destroys all 3 and under toughness for 3 mana. Also, you could use 2 Polis Crusher for some protection from enchantments. Sagu Mauler could be used to throw in a heavyweight that can't be targeted for your sideboard. For aggro, you could use Kiora, the Crashing Wave to slow them down by getting to choose each turn what they can't use to attack you with.

@seanfireball2

Anger of the Gods is definitely intriguing, I hadn't thought of that. I'll put it SB. The only thing I don't like is it will hit all my mana dorks too. But I guess I can either hold off on casting them if I have an Anger of the Gods in my opening hand, or maybe it won't be too much of an issue since I'll most likely be almost set up for See the Unwritten by the time I use it.

I used to run Kiora, the Crashing Wave in my old build for this deck. She's pretty good, but more often than not she gets pinged the turn after she comes down, as by the time I can cast her, they will most likely have a few creatures on board that can kill her, even with the +1.

Dissolve is better than Dissipate in this case because of the scry.

I had Dissipate in here originally because of all the delving and graveyard tricks in khans, but honestly I don't use them enough for it to make any difference, so you're right Kiora_Fan-01, I'll be switching back to Dissolve .

What about Burning Anger as an addition? I also plan to run Sealock Monster as a blocker mostly and can add BA to make it a damage dealer to either a creature or player. Plus if you have Kiora's Follower to untap Sealock Monster then tap again for 10 damage. Also think about running a Scourge of the Fleets. I am just not a big fan of the Knuckler. If anything go for Sagu Mauler.

@Sharpeimagine

I've thought alot about Burning Anger . I'm conflicted with it. It combos extremely well with Tromokratis since he can maintain his hexproof, which is a huge deal since decks with lots of removal just cripple me. I'm not sure what to take out for it, or maybe if I should just keep it in the SB for matchups with alot of removal. If I do put it in, I would imagine I would just run 4 Kiora's Follower instead of Rattleclaw Mystic as they can act as mana dorks early game.

The thing I like about Tromokratis over the other krakens is that if I do end up attacking with him, he either gets through or takes out at least a couple blockers since they all have to commit (alot more when facing aggro). Whereas other krakens can be chumped quite easily most of the time.

I would definitely run Sagu Mauler , except I'm stubborn on trying to keep Krakens and the like in here as the main win-con. :P I only have Savage Knuckleblade in here because he's the easiest ferocious enabler for See the Unwritten .

I guess it's time for some testing!