Do you hate my life?

Commander / EDH* C.H.O.C.O.L.A.T.E.

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FangedRamen says... #1

Sorry, but I'm gonna be pretty judgmental again. staples Staples STAPLES!!!! When I don't see Wrath of God , Solemn Simulacrum , or Command Tower in your deck I'm like 0_o and if others looked over it, they would probably look like 0_o 0_0 = o_0Y u no have the MANA ARTIFACTS BOARD WIPES CLASSIC REMOVAL e.g. Path to Exile . And bad cards? Just because a sucker has "gain some life" on it doesn't mean its worth it. Tablet of the Guilds ? Survival Cache ? Consuming Vapors ? Words of Worship ? What is this? Those are just a few of the MANY staples missing and MANY mistakes.

P.S. Check out about 6 other same strategy decklists, an edh staples lists and some color top 10's (MythicMTGtech or Roxaboxen90 have them on youtube). I'm a slow and considerate deckbuilder, and so I only have 1 deck so far, and you should be very considerate of the options around you, what to keep, and what to leave.

March 3, 2014 11:59 p.m.

FangedRamen says... #2

I'm sorry; talk to somebody else. I'm not a fan of recreating someone's entire deck.

March 4, 2014 midnight

chocolate101 says... #3

you mean boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

March 5, 2014 11:44 p.m.

by da way. How is Consuming Vapors bad. For 4 mana, they sac 2 creatures!!!

March 5, 2014 11:50 p.m.

FangedRamen says... #5

Sorry CHOCO didn't notice Consuming Vapors had rebound. Nice touch-up. I would still add some things, like Ashen Rider and Ajani's Pridemate , but its worth a +1 now.

March 10, 2014 1:17 a.m.

FangedRamen says... #6

Still no Solemn Simulacrum though...

March 10, 2014 1:18 a.m.

chocolate101 says... #7

OK. Can i trade back for my Solemn Simulacrum please

March 10, 2014 3:44 p.m.

chocolate101 says... #8

oops. Wrong account. I am C.H.O.C.O.L.A.T.E.

March 10, 2014 3:45 p.m.

just saying, Ajani's Pridemate barely gets any +1 counters, because if you gain 20 life, it gets 1.

March 13, 2014 10:41 p.m.

btw, what should i switch them out for?

March 13, 2014 10:51 p.m.

BhaalOmega says... #11

Have you considered Soul Warden ,Suture Priest or Auriok Champion , With them you are getting consistent heals that can push up an Ajani's Pridemate . Vizkopa Guildmage can become your best friend in a deck like this

March 14, 2014 4:12 p.m.

Auriok Champion is great, but I don't want to pay $15 for it

March 15, 2014 12:26 p.m.

Graytrey says... #13

This deck is pretty sweet. I don't think you need more staples, you just need more lands. Your average CMC is over four mana and you are only playing 34 lands, which is like playing about 20 lands in a 60 card deck. 60 card constructed decks with 20 lands tend to have average CMC's of about 2. I would err on the side of too many lands as you have tons of ways to sink mana for lifegain.

I think this deck needs 40 lands, and I wouldn't waver from that. It seems like you are working on a budget, and really just more basics would be good. You could add the slow fetches like Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds to raise your land count and avoid taking out a second mortgage for Marsh Flats . Also, since you don't have a lot of early drops ETB tapped lands shouldn't be too much of a problem. You should be able to fit two in your curve somewhere every game while adding some versatility to your mana base. I particularly like the Urza's Legacy creature lands,Forbidding Watchtower and Spawning Pool , in this role as they can help protect you early. If you want to spend more Urborg/Coffers is obviously a sweet option, if a little overplayed.

For creatures I would try to get a Blood Baron of Vizkopa , he might be pricey now but this time next year I'd be surprised if it was worth more than 5 bucks. Suture Priest is also pretty nice, and maybe some extort guys. Crypt Ghast especially is pretty awesome. For spells I would add Tribute to Hunger , it is pretty sweet at instant speed, and maybe even Exile . Pristine Talisman is probably better than Chalice of Life  Flip in practice and I would make that swap. And Faith's Fetters is I think an upgrade from Recumbent Bliss

As far as cards to lose, I would cut Sunbond as it is not great with your commander. Words of Worship is funny with Well of Lost Dreams but is otherwise terrible, I would cut it unless you just really want to live that dream. Planeswalker's Mirth is probably not where you want to be sinking your mana. Celestial Convergence seems unlikely to ever work, and Victory's Herald just seems to weak for its cost too me. If you want to fit any other suggested cards I would just look at some of your high mana cost spells and think about how often you expect to cast them and cut the ones that don't have enough impact.

If you want to make this deck more competitive, you could go with some cheaper (CMC) tutors, like Enlightened Tutor , Vampiric Tutor , Demonic Tutor , Academy Rector , and Idyllic Tutor to try to get your infinite lifegain/lifeloss combos online quicker, but that will cost you. Beyond shelling out money, I think increasing your land count and shaving your mana costs is your best bet for a smoother more fun experience.

Good luck and +1

March 24, 2014 9:10 p.m.

FangedRamen says... #14

Listen to Graytrey. If you think his suggestions are bad, then you're wrong.

March 24, 2014 10:42 p.m.

thank you for such great advice. I forgot to add Blood Baron because when I made the deck it was $20 (now it is 15), and I love tutors, but they are a little pricey. I love all the changes though. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

March 24, 2014 11:16 p.m.

btw the changes might be made tomorrow i gtg now.

March 24, 2014 11:17 p.m.

FangedRamen says... #17

CHOCO you're wrong! Words of Worship does not stack. Each time you pay it, it counts for the next time after (so if you paid 2, you would gain 5 life the first time you drew this turn and 5 the second, not 10 the first. Looked in official rules. chocolate101is incorrect. The reason why is because now that you've decided that you're not going to draw next time, then it doesn't actually count as drawing anymore because you've already decided you're gonna gain life, not draw, therefore it doesn't count as drawing.

March 27, 2014 11:05 p.m.

FangedRamen says... #18

Eight-and-a-Half-Tails is AMAZING use it! Ashen Rider maybe?

March 27, 2014 11:08 p.m.

FangedRamen says... #19

Patron of the Kitsune is not quite powerful enough unless your game has 5+ players, I would remove it. Feudkiller's Verdict is dumb for 10 mana and no long game value. Beacon of Tomorrows is kewl. Ordeal of Heliod , Faith's Fetters , Tribute to Hunger , and Riot Control are all BAD...REALLY BAD at least in EDH. Remember, just because a card has lifegain, it doesn't mean its good. I would add some staples, removal, board whipes, and ramp. I also suggest Ancient Tomb and Temple of the False God because they're two mana in one land. Not bad, but not good so far. VIEW Mythicmtgtech and Roxaboxen90's videos of the top 10 orzhov edh cards, edh artifacts, edh ramp cards, white edh cards, and black edh cards. Also visit this awesome decklist List of EDH Staples and Power Cards and this website: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/archives/218225-edh-the-top-35-cards-of-each-color

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March 27, 2014 11:27 p.m.

feudkiller's is 6 mana.

March 28, 2014 3:52 p.m.

FangedRamen says... #21

I meant dumb for 6. Oops.

March 29, 2014 12:22 a.m.

How? for six, i get a 5/5 and gain 10 life.

March 29, 2014 11:14 a.m.

FangedRamen says... #23

It's just a spot filler. Nothing unique, and edh games usually finish with giant creatures and spells, not clocks. 10 life will not help in the long run.

March 29, 2014 3:36 p.m.

FangedRamen says... #24

March 29, 2014 3:37 p.m.

i was sure i had that in. weird.

March 29, 2014 5:12 p.m.

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