Dominus - Dreamcrusher Edition

Commander / EDH Epochalyptik

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Epochalyptik says... #1

Just use Diabolic Intent .

August 24, 2013 5:02 p.m.

voidking says... #2

Dark Ritual is it really that good in this deck?

August 25, 2013 12:26 a.m.

Epochalyptik says... #3

Dark Ritual is good because it allows me to cast Damia two turns earlier and will be replaced by Damia's draw effect.

August 25, 2013 11:51 a.m.

maybe Summer Bloom for some additional ramp?

August 27, 2013 7:35 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #5

@canterlotguardian: Summer Bloom is kind of situational. It would only work well with Crucible of Worlds or if I have a specific hand composition. Have you tested it?

August 28, 2013 12:25 a.m.

Epochalyptik I run it in my EDH deck and I've been able to turn-1 drop 4 lands by revealing Chancellor of the Tangle for the extra green mana, playing any land on my first turn, tapping it and using the additional green to play Bloom and drop three more lands. It's best during early-game, although late-game you can just use it to chunk cards out of your hand, or maybe fix some mana issues in case you're not running what you need to but you just have it in your hand.

August 28, 2013 8:12 a.m.

Dreno33 says... #7

hey Epochalyptik, i unsubscribed awhile ago because of my damn news feed haha. came back to check in and was surprised you haven't added a particular card yet from M14.

Quicken - the synergy the one card has is ridiculous. Vampiric Tutor into Tooth and Nail , then Quicken your Tooth and Nail .

maybe you have already play tested it, but it you haven't, i suggest giving it a shot. at the VERY least, it replaces itself if you have one extra mana at end of opponents turn. I think it would be perfect for this deck.

August 28, 2013 4:39 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #8

@canterlotguardian: I'm still not sold on Summer Bloom . I would need to playtest it, and its utility would depend largely on Crucible of Worlds . I don't know what I would drop to test it, though.

@Dreno33: Good to see that you still check up on this deck. Quicken is an interesting card, you're right, but I can't help but feel the sorcery-only restriction makes it a bit too narrow. Of my ten sorceries, only the ramp would realistically benefit from the effect. Tooth and Nail would be more effectively cast on my own turn. Damnation at instant speed would be cute, but not often necessary. Yawgmoth's Will could just be a mass-Snapcaster effect. Worst case, Quicken just cantrips into something else, but I don't know if the best case warrants inclusion. Any further thoughts?

August 28, 2013 5:35 p.m.

Dreno33 says... #9

August 28, 2013 6:15 p.m.

SplodyCopter says... #10

Mana Crypt is so bad dude. Why would you run that?

And Underground Sea . If someone Boil s you're screwed. Rookie mistake

Force of Will should be Stoic Rebuttal , it's strictly better than Cancel

Remand ? Srsly? -__-

In all reality I think you could benefit from Long-Term Plans and Diabolic Intent . I haven't tested them, because I don't know what to take out. But more tutors is better tutors. And Long-Term Plans is good because Damia. Rather situational, but tutors is tutors. Also, I think Snuff Out is a fantastic idea. And on that note, Slaughter Pact .

August 28, 2013 6:39 p.m.

coleman984 says... #11

@SplodyCopter

Obvious troll is obvious

August 28, 2013 8:31 p.m.

@Dreno33: Flashcasting Tooth and Nail presents other challenges. It's not as straightforward as you think. I'd need to have Blue Sun's Zenith in hand when I cast Tooth and Nail , otherwise I'd have no way to win because the Quicken effect wouldn't apply to a second casting through Snapcaster Mage or Eternal Witness (plus the second casting would cost tons of mana).

On top of that, I think you're exaggerating the impact Quicken would have. It still takes up space in my hand, even though it replaces itself. I don't necessarily agree that the benefits for ten sorceries are as strong as they need to be. I'm not denying that flashcasting any of them is strong, but they need to be game-breaking if I'm going to devote a slot to Quicken .

@SplodyCopter: Long-Term Plans is iffy in this deck. Black has better tutors that don't rely on Damia. Diabolic Intent is something I've been meaning to include, but I don't know what to cut.

On the topic of removal, I (as I said above) don't know what to cut. I'd like to run Snuff Out and maybe Rapid Hybridization , but I need the space to do so.

August 28, 2013 8:33 p.m.

@coleman984: The first half of the post was in jest, but the second half actually addressed some relevant points.

August 28, 2013 8:34 p.m.

Although Scroll Rack is good with all of the fetchlands you run, it only really gets used when you are on the back foot. Its a card that takes up space when you are ahead in the game and doesn't have that amazing effect as the other cards in the deck. There are of course, pros and cons about the card.

With Damia on board, you have a way of seeing up to 14 cards per turn, couple that with fetch lands you can see a lot more of your deck. But if Damia isn't on board you're seeing less cards and with less consistency. It used to be very good with Life from the Loam but has since been cut. You no longer draw 3 cards for 3 mana. When looking for a card to cut, my opinion is it should be Scroll Rack .

August 29, 2013 11:23 a.m.

SaberTech says... #15

To add to what Smith_and_Tonic has to say regarding Scroll Rack ; when playtesting this deck I found that Scroll Rack frequently failed to do what drawing cards should do, help put you ahead or allow you to come back from a rough situation. With the large number of ramp cards in this deck it tends to throw down most of its cards early, generally leaving only a couple of cards in hand for Scroll Rack to work with. Scroll Rack does shine when Damia is on the board but under those circumstances Scroll Rack generally feel like a "win more" card.

Of course, the counter argument to that is if you can consistently drop Damia early and keep her on the board then Scroll Rack is amazing. I just don't find that to happen often since most opponents won't allow a deck to keep a massive card engine on the board if they can help it. Anyone who sees you dump most of your hand to get Damia out should do their best to eliminate her immediately since it would set your game state back rather significantly in comparison to your opponents.

August 29, 2013 6:08 p.m.

Scroll Rack is far from the best card in the deck, so I could theoretically cut it to test other cards. It's most useful when I can super filter with Damia or Oracle of Mul Daya . Otherwise, it helps me play around slow openers. It is clunky, though.

August 30, 2013 3:14 p.m.

MTG_Player says... #18

Frantic Search I understand it is worse in multiplayer, but it finds lands or non-lands if you need them, can enable discarders, and actually ramps with Ancient Tomb / Crucible of Worlds combos

September 3, 2013 9:31 p.m.

Blakkhand says... #19

My mind was blown on the popularity of this deck when I was playing cockatrice earlier today. I was in a 4-player game and two of the opponents were both playing this exact deck. Not be confused with the archetype in general, they admitted to playing Dominus - Dreamcrusher Edition specifically. Kudos on your deck having such an influence!

September 4, 2013 12:56 p.m.

@MTG_Player: Frantic Search is an interesting idea, but I don't think it would pan out. It's basically a pseudo-free filter effect, and I hesitate to say it's more useful than any other card already in the deck. What do you think?

@Blakkhand: That's actually kind of funny. I've heard from some other users that my deck was appearing around cockatrice, but I had no idea how popular this particular list had become. I'm glad people think highly enough about it to use it themselves.

September 4, 2013 1:26 p.m.

SplodyCopter says... #21

I've never realized that this deck is basically just staples, combo pieces, and land. Probably has something to do with the consistency of it haha. ;P

September 5, 2013 6:19 p.m.

HOBONOMO says... #22

Great lookin deck, but Dryad Arbor is in there twice once as a land once as a creature. if you count it up you only have 98 cards in deck and general.

September 6, 2013 3:47 a.m.

HOBONOMO says... #23

Nevermind i apparently forgot how to math.
anyway +1 from me.

September 6, 2013 5:05 a.m.

Dryad Arbor has this weird property where it's the only multi-type card that shows up in two different categories on the decklist. I'd love to have another slot, though.

September 6, 2013 1:17 p.m.

Blakkhand says... #25

Is Glen Elendra Archmage worth it? I guess its card advantage, but six mana for two counters seems like its not worth it. I've played with it and against it, and it always seems fairly easy to play around. I always wish for a Negate when it's in my hand. Might be a good thing to cut for Grim Tutor /Diabolic Intent .

September 6, 2013 3:05 p.m.

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