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Commander / EDH Epochalyptik

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Epochalyptik says... #1

I haven't been able to test Toxic Deluge because I don't own a copy. It's on my list of cards to get.

August 9, 2014 5:52 p.m.

Eulemann says... #2

Conjurer's Closet would work with your creatures' enter the battlefield triggers especially with Eternal Witness and Rune-Scarred Demon .

Have you ever considered any mill in the deck? Lotus Cobra + Mind Grind would seem to work well with multiple land drops every turn, plus possibly an Archeomancer to get it back.

August 10, 2014 1:34 a.m.

Epochalyptik says... #3

@Eulemann: Conjurer's Closet is too slow for this deck. I don't play my win conditions as normal cards. Rune-Scarred Demon will never be on the battlefield unless I'm winning that turn.

Mill is a bad win condition in competitive decks, especially in competitive multiplayer. It isn't a solid win condition, and it should be considered a liability until it "wins" because it doesn't actually prevent the opponent from doing anything in the meantime.

Although suggestions are appreciated, please remember that this deck is a tournament-level deck that is designed to be as fast and efficient as possible. Suggestions should be tailored to a cutthroat meta and a need for ruthless speed and efficiency.

August 10, 2014 1:54 a.m.

biggestmtgnerd says... #4

I would add more removal. Maybe Doom Blade . I would also add Chasm Skulker . It's great against removal, works well with your commander, and if left alone, can be very dangerous even if they have removal.

August 10, 2014 4:03 a.m.

Epochalyptik says... #5

@biggestmtgnerd: Removal is one of the things this deck lacks, but I don't think Doom Blade fits the bill. Many important creatures are black. The problem is that there are so few kill effects I could run without being too limited, and those effects are generally pretty expensive.

Chasm Skulker is generally bad in EDH. It's expensive to cast, small as a threat, and doesn't have relevant abilities. Tokens, and combat as a whole, are unimportant in a combo-based format.

August 10, 2014 4:23 a.m.

Traveler247 says... #6

Has Storm Crow been suggested yet? If not, I'm gonna go in as the one to suggest it, because Storm Crow ends games just by hitting the table. It's more powerful than Palinchron and Deadeye Navigator in play with a blue sun in hand. So yeah, I'd recommend that card. Totally worth it for 2 mana.

In all seriousness though, I'm surprised Scroll Rack didn't make it into your list. I saw that you added it, but I don't see it in the deck.

I'm also wandering about the possibility of Entomb and/or Reanimate . Certainly, it has exactly three useful interactions with the graveyard (grab strip mine if crucible is out, grab whatever if you have yawgmoth's will or eternal witness), which makes entomb less than stellar, but it is a 1-mana instant speed tutor. I can see it being useful with a few more graveyard strategies, but I don't know if any of that is powerful enough to merit space in the deck.Reanimate can grab a fallen opposing consecrated sphinx, vorinclex, etc, and for 1 mana that's fairly powerful. That being said, I don't play competitive enough to know how often that circumstance is met, so I can't really judge the value of the card.

Do you need any graveyard hate? I'm truly surprised that isn't more relevant in competitive. against many decks stopping their combo is a simple as a tormod's crypt or nihil spellbomb. If you want to really do it well, you can go with a relic of progenitus. It seems like having at least one piece of graveyard hate would serve your deck well, but again, I don't know competitive EDH, so that could be completely wrong.

Also, just because it would be hilarious, would you please, just once, put in a knowledge pool and whip out the old knowledge pool/teferi combo against someone? That would seriously be the funniest thing ever. Just once. Just for the story. And make sure they know your deck.

Lastly, I would like to suggest Chimney Imp . This card is right up there with storm crow on the table of deadly cards, so I definitely think you should run it. It's kind of like tooth and nail in that it wins you the game immediately, but it has a lower mana cost.

August 10, 2014 9:28 a.m.

Deathrite Shaman is banned dude

August 10, 2014 1:30 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #8

@Traveler247: Scroll Rack was cut. It's a good card, but it's just not good enough in this deck. It had some applications, and the interaction with the fetch lands was nice, but it wasn't a necessity.

Entomb won't make the cut because my graveyard interactions are fairly limited.

Reanimate is certainly a good card, but it's also limited. I don't like having to depend on there being something useful in a graveyard when I'm trying to combo out on turn four or five. For the same reason, graveyard hate is not strictly necessary. Yes, there are some graveyard-based strategies, but counterspells work as a general-purpose answer to both those and normal strategies.

August 10, 2014 1:45 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #9

@Traps_and_Spells: DRS is banned in Modern. It's perfectly legal in EDH.

August 10, 2014 1:46 p.m.

miracleHat says... #10

Looking at your maybeboard, i saw Trickbind . I thought that the cost was too prohibitive. Has that changed?

August 10, 2014 3:32 p.m.

Trickbind 's cost has never been objectively prohibitive, I'll admit, but in comparison to Stifle , it's a little higher. It's a matter of testing whether the split second and full-turn shutdown is worth the extra mana.

August 10, 2014 4:10 p.m.

enpc says... #12

You've had Worldly Tutor on your sideboard for a while now - have you ever given it a playtest? Also, have you given a thought as to what cards you would run in your wishboard?

August 10, 2014 8:51 p.m.

enpc says... #13

Sorry bout that, I meant Living Wish ....

August 10, 2014 8:51 p.m.

filledelanuit says... #14

Have you considered adding Cabal Coffers to go nuts with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth . You could also add Crop Rotation to find matchup specific cards like Boseiju, Who Shelters All combo cards like Riptide Laboratory .

August 10, 2014 9:04 p.m.

Orbrunner says... #15

Cabal Coffers was cut when Primeval Titan was banned.

August 10, 2014 9:12 p.m.

@lordoftheshadows: See the Primeval Titan update.

Cabal Coffers + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is certainly a strong ramp interaction, but Cabal Coffers is useless on its own in this deck, and I'd only ever want to play it if Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth were on the battlefield.

August 10, 2014 9:21 p.m.

Nigeltastic says... #17

Is the reason for no Merchant Scroll (instead of Mystical Teachings ) because of Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir ?

August 10, 2014 9:23 p.m.

Regarding Living Wish in your maybe board: since there are no sideboards in EDH, are you able to fetch any legal cards you have with you?

August 10, 2014 9:44 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #19

aeonstoremyliver Most competitive metas that I have heard about institute a 10 card sideboard.

August 10, 2014 9:46 p.m.

There are in fact sideboards in EDH @aeonstoremyliver. There is an optional sideboard rule that is endorsed by the creators of EDH which can be found here.

August 10, 2014 9:46 p.m.

@Nigeltastic: Partially. The other major thing is that Mystical Teachings has flashback, which means I can use it to find Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir or Vampiric Tutor (Merchant Scroll can only find blue instants), then find Blue Sun's Zenith . Merchant Scroll is also a sorcery, which is not ideal. Demonic Tutor gets away with being a sorcery because it finds any card and has no reveal restriction.

@aeonstoremyliver: In casual EDH, wishes typically work the same as they do in casual 60-card (which is to say you can find any card from your collection). However, competitive EDH typically follows the EDH sideboarding rules (which allow you to pre-board after commanders are revealed, and allow you to wish only for cards in your sideboard).

August 10, 2014 10:13 p.m.

Gotcha. Thanks gents!

August 10, 2014 10:17 p.m.

TheCommonFig says... #23

I would suggest testing Pongify or Rapid Hybridization . I think they're the only two creature removal spells worth testing at this point. At the very least, you could use them to destroy utility creatures at the low cost of U. As for what to remove to make room for one of them, I'm leaning toward Mental Misstep . It may be a free counter, and a good one when it hits, but it really sucks when no one is playing 1cmc spells and it's dead in your hand. There will always be something to hit with Pongify , even if it's less than ideal, but the same is not true of Mental Misstep . It's still worth testing Mental Misstep as it could be more useful than I imagine (for example, it counters 22% of your decklist), but I don't foresee it staying in the deck long-term.

I was also wondering about Homeward Path . Is it common for creatures to be stolen in competitive games? I can't think of any creature theft card worth playing aside from maybe Gilded Drake . I don't know how often people try to destroy your creatures, but Yavimaya Hollow might be a better option than Homeward Path if you think creature destruction is more common than creature theft. I know you generally have counters to protect from either occurrence, but I think it's worth considering.

August 12, 2014 12:13 a.m.

@TheCommonFig: I use Pongify and Rapid Hybridization in another one of my EDH decks, and I don't know how I feel about them in this deck. They're probably worth testing because I have little removal in this deck, and you're probably right about testing them over Mental Misstep . I will say, however, that Mental Misstep is key for countering many important counterspells as well as Sol Ring , Vampiric Tutor , Mana Vault , Sensei's Divining Top , Carpet of Flowers , and Exploration .

Homeward Path falls under the "nice just in case, but not a big deal" category. I was considering the idea of moving some of the less important utility lands to the sideboard and adding Living Wish to find them or an alternate win condition, but that idea never got past brainstorming. I think we kind of stopped discussing it.

August 12, 2014 12:30 a.m.

imarockyou says... #25

What do u get with Intuition ?

August 13, 2014 10:11 a.m.

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