Basically that.

As for what to drop, you can probably get away with cutting some of the ramp and control spells. It's Kind of hard to say because making those cuts makes the deck worse, so you have to determine how to do that without severely affecting your ability to play at the same level as the rest of your playgroup.

Alright, Thanks for the help

For someone wanting to build this but prefers white over black, do you think it can still be highly competitive? Most of the draw, counterspell, ramp and combo-package is in green and blue. Swap Demonic Tutor for Eladamri's Call, Damnation for Wrath of God. Lose tutoring power, but gain powerful answers in Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile. If going for white, any other cards you would consider, both as commander and otherwise?

How was it you said I can contact you?

@Indigoindigo: Well, white does lose quite a bit of the utility from black (draw power in Necropotence, tutor power, Rune-Scarred Demon). You can rework the combos a bit to account for white, but you'll lose the ability to tutor through Tooth and Nail using Rune-Scarred Demon.

Bant, oddly enough, tends to prefer graveyard combos more than this deck does. There are quite a few Survival of the Fittest picks to create reanimation loops with Karmic Guide and Reveillark. Add Ashnod's Altar or Phyrexian Altar for infinite mana, Blasting Station for infinite damage, etc.

Unfortunately, Bant combos also tend to be less efficient because they tend to require more cards that don't double as utility. You can get around this by sticking to the combo shell outlined in this deck, but I do recommend strongly considering Bant combos on your own. I haven't mapped multiple cards to multiple combos like I have for this deck, and I'm sure there's a way to create a similar network of combo pieces.

You could also consider some mono-blue combos that you can assemble with artifact and enchantment tutors like Enlightened Tutor.

And try running some more of the blue tutors, specifically Personal Tutor and Muddle the Mixture.

@imarockyou: That post was probably more appropriate for my wall than for this page, but I got your email.

So I tried playtesting the deck and I must say I am impressed. I'd like to apologize for questioning the need for green and all the other rubbish I said on my previous post.

In fact, I loved the deck so much, I just might convert my Oona deck into a Damia.

The only problem I have now is to find cards that can sub for the ABUR duals, Mox Diamond and Mana Crypt which I probably won't be able to afford until late this year.

Btw, is the number of counterspells in the deck really necessary? I was thinking of getting a couple of recursion spells (just to put a twist to the deck).

Well, you want countermagic to be available. Often, you'll have to resolve your spells through some resistance if you want to get to late game successfully. And most often, you'll have to protect your combo with counterspell backup. The number of counterspells here helps increase the chances that you'll draw at least some control over the course of your games.

Recursion (beyond the recursion already included in the deck) isn't really necessary because it doesn't really utilize the graveyard for very much. Most of the important spells can be used once and left in the yard, and the permanents can be destroyed and it won't really matter; the deck is designed so that they're expendable. Recursion is typically only productive if the spells you're getting back are worth enough to justify the resource investment of recurring and recasting them.

However, you're certainly welcome to imitate and modify the list. Perhaps some of your modifications will make recursion more relevant to your version of the deck.

On the topic of having countermagic available, since you said yourself that you don't use a lot of the graveyard once stuff is there, have you given any further thought to Dig Through Time? I'm personally still on the fence about it, but am leaning towards trying it out.

I may not use the graveyard constantly, but there are some situations in which I wouldn't want to exile those cards unless what I'm playing is really worthwhile. Dig Through Time just doesn't give me the right impression. I'd rather dedicate the space to a tutor (even assuming a perfect delve, Diabolic Intent is still more castable than Dig Through Time).

Fair enough. There are definately some drawbacks to it, I'll agree there. It still seem good enough to test in my build I think, but slower builds and all that :P

Oh yeah, have you given anymore thought to Jace, the Mind Sculptor? And othe other one, Leyline of Anticipation. How good do you actually find this card to be? It's awesome when you get it openning hand, but other than that I can see its only use would be to pitch to Force of Will or something.

This is straight up the greatest combo deck I've ever seen. My hat is off to you sir.

If you are running infinite mana combos in here, have you considered/tried Capsize? I've used it in my mono-blue to bounce entire boards once the mana is in place.

I've never gotten the chance to try a competitive EDH environment, if you have a chance could you let me know how you think my deck would do? Any tips/suggestions would be super helpful. Thank you.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-perpetual-milling-machine-12-1-edh-mill/

Isn't step 12 of the thought challenge unnecessary? With Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir in play, you should be able to directly grab Rune-Scarred Demon with Mystical Teachings, and not need the insurance policy that Riptide Laboratory + Venser, Shaper Savant provides.

That said, I absolutely love the inclusion of the though puzzle, and would definitely be interested in seeing more of these.

TheMadMinstrel - Yes you can. Link below

http://community.wizards.com/forum/rules-qa/threads/1428146

Now my question is did Epochalyptik know this?

@RaSkipper: Capsize is suboptimal in this deck. It's inefficient as utility, so its primary purpose is to finish the combo. This deck likes to maximize space efficiency by running as few of those kinds of cards as possible.

@TheMadMinstrel & The-Xellos: I'm aware of that, yes (it's one of the reasons I like Mystical Teachings in this deck), but you're pretty much safe by step #12. You have multiple options, and I just picked one to describe. However, I also like to get multiple cards at once if possible.

Also, Riptide Laboratory is obsolete when Deadeye Navigator is in the field, so that wasn't a combo concern at that point.

@enpc: Leyline of Anticipation is good in multiplayer when you need to resolve things through multiple opponents, but it's not a good draw. It does, as you mention, fuel Force of Will and Misdirection, which has been enough to help mitigate the downside.

Why not Seedtime in a blue-charged metagame?Why not Death Wish for that piece of the combo?

Good plays ;D

Blue Sun's Zenith is in two lists... Utility AND Wincon. Check out

@DarkHamlet: Good suggestions. Seedtime is interesting, but I would have to test it to be sure about it. I can add it to the maybeboard.

Same for Death Wish. I was, for a time, strongly considering using the wishes as tutors for backup pieces or limited-applicability utility spells. However, I never tested them.

Blue Sun's Zenith is meant to be in both lists because it can serve both purposes. It isn't an ideal utility spell, but there are times when it is necessary.

Reset the discussion.

I haven't been watching the spoilers, so let me know if anything good pops up.

Thank you god for resetting this lol.

So many comments.

I'll try to keep you posted. Looks like there's a command cycle for color pairs.

You are looking at a / command.

You mentioned Frontier Siege earlier. Have you given it more consideration?

Is the new sidisi a possibility?http://mythicspoiler.com/dtk/cards/sidisiundeadvizier.html

Pretty sure you've seen Silumgar's Command, seems like too much on the CMC scale for you.

The new Sidisi, Undead Vizier seems decent but you don't really have sacrifice fodder to make her work.

Does Den Protector have a slot? You can't really flicker it but....

That's all that seems like it would be remotely interesting for you.

All of those cards are FAR too expensive at what they do. Silumgar's Command costs more than Cryptic Command, which was cut for being too expensive (and color saturated, if I remember right). Sidisi is a 5 mana Diabolic Intent and Den Protector is a 5 mana E-wit.

@Indigoindigo: I haven't. This deck has been on the back burner for a while, and I haven't been able to play it in a while. Frontier Siege is still a "maybe."

@atgarnett & Ohthenoises: I was moderately interested in the new Sidisi, Undead Vizier when it was first spoiled. I thought of using it like a backup Rune-Scarred Demon that happened to be castable if absolutely necessary. But the cost is still pretty high, and it would need to be recurred with Eternal Witness as part of the combo if I were to need to use it multiple times. I suppose the last concern is less relevant because I'll be able to combo off after one tutor in most cases, but I guess the question then becomes "Is redundancy with Rune-Scarred Demon necessary?" I think the answer is no.

Den Protector is just a more limited and expensive version of Eternal Witness. If I needed more recursion, I'd probably play a blue spell recursion creature or just Regrowth before Den Protector.

Silumgar's Command is just too expensive. It's the problem with Cryptic Command all over again, really.