Domri Rade, King of the Monsters (M15)

Standard* Kamotz

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Horant says... #1

Have you tested this yet at a FNM or anything i Really want to try this out it look like a lot of fun to play. For some reason though i feel that Courser of Kruphix can be hurtful sometimes as the person you are playing against always knows what your drawing.

February 26, 2014 5:07 p.m.

Kamotz says... #2

I played it last week at FNM...went 4-1 in the swiss and then lost in top 8 to my R5 opponent. Got stuck on mana in both games. And this deck doesn't function well without it.

Courser of Kruphix makes this deck. It's just that good. True, they get to see what you're going to get, but this deck doesn't really represent tricks or funny combat math. Our most "tricky" thing is a Polukranos, World Eater going monstrous. And for that you'd rather have smoother draws.

February 26, 2014 5:37 p.m.

Horant says... #3

Fair Enough im a little hesitant on using it in my G/R Monsters deck Because i use Flesh / Blood and Rampagers 2 things i think to keep secrets sometimes, Like if i swing with Stormbreath Dragon and they are at 8 life and decide to take the 4 instead of block or block with another 4/4 i can trample over and blood them after combat. anyways im going to try this deck out tonight i think.+1

February 26, 2014 5:49 p.m.

rjphilla says... #4

Take out the Mutavault . you don't need them. Put in Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx , WAY better for your deck the the Mutavault .+1

February 27, 2014 11:22 a.m.

Kamotz says... #5

This isn't a devotion deck. There's never a time that if have a solid devotion amount on the field. This is a 3-color midrange deck. Mutavault gives it a follow up play to a board wipe. Nykthos might make me 3 mana. Maybe. And for that little amount if rather just tap mana sources.

February 27, 2014 1:28 p.m.

Alcolitox says... #6

February 27, 2014 2:46 p.m.

Kamotz says... #7

I really like Vraska. My only issue was that I always had things I'd rather play. in the mirror I'd rather just play Dreadbore . Vs Control I'd rather play Abrupt Decay or Golgari Charm .

February 27, 2014 8:56 p.m.

LarryLiu says... #8

Gruul is such a cool deck:)Have trouble removing them sometimes and my blood baron doesnt seem to be worth playing against like ur deckCould you help me take a look?http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/junk-midrange-02-03-14-2/Thanks in advance!

March 3, 2014 10:10 a.m.

Mn3m0n1c says... #9

Hah, my Jund won game day at my LCS as well.

I like the playmat.. the minotaur on the right is ugly, but i like the centerpiece one. Born of the Gods + champion word art looks great imo.

My deck takes a spin off R/G Monsters with Jund for removal, so i still run Ghor-Clan Rampager .

I think Reaper of the Wilds will come in post rotation, but Ghor-Clan Rampager has just been too helpful winning matches.

If I went more removal oriented, Reaper of the Wilds would be in the deck in a heartbeat.

However in my opinion, I dont think Xenagos, The Reveler has a place in this monsters deck mainboard. Sure sideboard against control for another threat, but I think you might be better suited to run a 2nd Xenagos, God of Revels

+1

Check out my variation, mostly aimed at overpowering opposing monster/devotion decks.

Jund Monsters [4-0 BNG Game Day]

March 3, 2014 10:49 a.m.

Mn3m0n1c says... #10

Hey, Lovin Jund monsters. And I like your playstyle of it.I have a few minor recommendations for you.

1)Id swap one of your Dreadbore s out for a Mizzium Mortars . I wanted 2 Mizzium Mortars myself, but I wanted 2 Dreadbore too.. so I just ran 2 of each!And honestly, with 4 Elvish Mystic and 4 Sylvan Caryatid How hard is it for us to overload this thing.. could potentially do it on turn four. aka same turn as Master of Waves

I understand your frustration with the card, and I agree completely. But in terms of Master of Waves . You could Overload it and board wipe, which is one of the more devastating things to happen to a MUD player. After that, his topdecks are nothing but junk devotion creatures that need board presence to do anything. With a Desecration Demon deck, chances are the rest of the deck runs <4 toughness creatures.. so its not a dead card in the slightest bit. and with 2 other Dreadbore s for removal, its not so bad. I'll also present you with a situation I ran into the other day and wished I had my mortars. I faced a UW control player, game 2 I sideboarded out my dead Mizzium Mortars , he sided in his Blood Baron of Vizkopa s... I was excited when he tapped out on turn 5.... I think you can understand the frustration in what actually happened. I did not have a Stormbreath Dragon in sight to help my cause and lost hard to that BBoV.

2)you need a fourth Courser of Kruphix . I found that in all my match ups against UW control, the games I won.. I had card advantage either from Domri Rade or Courser of Kruphix . The games I didnt, I lost to the amount of answers he had.

I'd suggest dropping Xenagos, The Reveler to sideboard or out completely, I dont feel as though he matches monsters playstyle at all and belongs in the devotion style of GR. This would make room for your 4th Courser of Kruphix .

Please check out, rate and critique my variation of Jund Monsters!Jund Monsters [4-0 BNG Game Day]

March 11, 2014 3:22 p.m.

Kamotz says... #11

I have Mizzium Mortars in the sideboard for the matches where I need them. I find Abrupt Decay to be the more relevant card in most Game 1's. The one exception might be Mono-Black and Mono-Black-esque decks. In which case I'm happy to sideboard them in the next games. I don't find Blood Baron of Vizkopa to be that dangerous of a threat. Rampager, Polukranos, and Stormbreath are all great roadblocks and trumps.

Courser of Kruphix is great...but the 2nd copy is pretty redundant unless you're playing vs. Aggro. Xenagos, The Reveler is your second/third best threat against Control after Stormbreath Dragon and tied with Reaper of the Wilds ...except it doesn't die to Verdict.

March 11, 2014 3:58 p.m.

Quadsimotto says... #12

shoot the rampager did its job against me in a match. Just enough for the win. plus one and i dread facing this deck style at FNM because i refuse to fall in line and play monsters like the rest of the guys where i play. Either MBD or Monsters. damn that. But this is a fine build. If i were to style a monsters deck i would want it to look like this.

March 11, 2014 6:58 p.m.

Schennj says... #13

I was curious about your sideboard. Your in/outs don't really match what you have listed, or am i just missing something. Also I was wondering what lead you to cut Mistctter hydra completely. Definitely agree with Whip, it has bailed me out of so many matches. Im suprised to see its not used more in this type if build. Without hydra I would love to see your sb plan for uwx. Seems like that's the only one you didn't list. I too have been toying around with the correct amounts of courser, polukranos, rampager and reaper. Your split seems pretty balanced. Thanks, GREAT Article!!

March 20, 2014 9:55 a.m.

Kamotz says... #14

@ Schennj: my tournament report was from two(ish) weeks ago, and my main/side has changed (albeit marginally) since then. However, I'd played the same list at FNM the night before, and was up against UWx a few times. Here's my sideboard summary:

In: 2x Rakdos's Return ; 2x Golgari Charm ; 1x Ruric Thar, the Unbowed ; 1x Sire Of Insanity ; 1x Xenagos, The Reveler

Out: 2x Scavenging Ooze ; 1x Polukranos, World Eater ; 1x Domri Rade ; 3x Courser of Kruphix

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I've since changed my sideboard, and the way I go about sideboarding for the UWx matchup. It's currently as follows:

In: 2x Rakdos's Return ; 2x Golgari Charm ; 2x Abrupt Decay ; 1x Ruric Thar, the Unbowed ; 1x Chandra, Pyromaster ; 1x Xenagos, The Reveler

Out: 2x Scavenging Ooze ; 2x Mizzium Mortars ; 1x Putrefy ; 2-3x Polukranos, World Eater ; 1x Domri Rade , 1x ???

I don't think Mistcutter Hydra is where this deck wants to be. You have to treat your creatures almost as burn spells against Control, knowing that they can be removed/swept/sphered either right after you play them or next turn. Many UWx decks are now bringing in Blind Obedience and splashing black for cards like Doom Blade . Plus, Elspeth can block the Mistcutter all day. What I've essentially done is substitute one X spell (hydra) for another: Rakdos's Return , which is backbreaking in more than just the control matchup. It's devastating in the mirror.

The Monsters mirror is devastating if you force your opponent into topdeck mode when you aren't. Especially if you're running the higher-removal version of Jund.

Regarding my creature #s. It's something I'm still struggling with. Polukranos was a 4-of in GR because it was one of the only ways to interact with Master of Waves . But with cards like Ultimate Price , Golgari Charm , and Putrefy , Jund doesn't have that problem. It's still a solid 5/5 for 4 in other matches, but having 3 doesn't seem bad, especially because it's Legendary.

Courser was more difficult to determine. 1 is awesome. 2 is less-so. Especially because that makes it so tempting to D-Sphere. All the same, against Aggro I'd love to be gaining 2 life per land drop or just playing the equivalent of ABUR duals and taking no damage. 3 is my concession to that.

As for Reaper of the Wilds . God, she's been SO good. Having that extra 2 mana when you cast her is the stone cold nuts. But that also makes her a 6-mana spell. People are intensely aware of how good she is, so if you play her without protection mana, you can expect them to remove her. She's similar to Olivia Voldaren from last-season's Jund lists in that way. Though she doesn't get as big or take over so quickly. The fact that she's generally a 6-mana play led me to cut her to a 3-of.

All of those 3-of cuts, in turn, gave me room to play all 4 Domri, 3 Xenagos in the 75, 5 solid removal spells maindeck, and (what I feel is) a very powerful sideboard.

My match with MonoBlue at the GPT proved that, since I was run-over in G1, but handily dominated Games 2 & 3.

March 20, 2014 10:33 a.m.

Schennj says... #15

Awesome, thanks for getting back. Appreciate it.

March 20, 2014 11:38 a.m.

malfeischylde says... #16

This looks solid, and it was a good idea to eliminate the Ghor-Clan Rampager . I am also running jund, and am attempting to acquire some Polukranos, World Eater . One the other hand, since we're putting in some serious lands, hopefully quickly, I would consider Rubblehulk , although I don't know what to eliminate for it, either. I like this deck, and wish you the best with it. Also, did you consider either Gaze of Granite or Jarad's Orders ? If so, what eliminated them for you, because I kind of can't justify the former, either, but I am running the later. I am using my graveyard more than you, though.

March 30, 2014 2:02 p.m.

malfeischylde says... #17

PS: +1, and please swing by and look at my jund deck, too. It's Jund-i Goodness in Standard (comments / advice??)

March 30, 2014 2:03 p.m.

Kamotz says... #18

@ malfeischylde: I've since returned 3 Ghor-Clans to the deck. They help in many matchups, and representing the rampagers as a trick sometimes means you get free damage in.

Rubblehulk just doesn't do enough. Especially since we don't have that many lands. It's more mana creatures. And Rubblehulk doesn't count those. Jarad's Orders is useless, since Jund Monsters isn't a graveyard-based deck. You really want the threats in your hand.

Gaze of Granite isn't a bad idea. But the double-black is rough on the mana base. It's also a big mana sink, so I'd often rather just have the Mizzium Mortars.

March 30, 2014 2:25 p.m.

clueless says... #19

I notice from your sideboard notes that you are siding in Ultimate Price , Putrefy , and Whip of Erebos vs. BW control, Jund mirror, RG monsters and Mono-blue. When do you not side those cards in? They seem great in pretty much every matchup except burn.

March 30, 2014 11:32 p.m.

Kamotz says... #20

The first two are pretty bad vs. Control. Whip would be okay, except I've got 10 other sideboard cards to bring in, too so I don't really bother.

March 30, 2014 11:48 p.m.

clueless says... #21

what do you cut vs control, Scavenging Ooze ? Courser of Kruphix ? Reaper of the Wilds ?

March 31, 2014 12:22 a.m.

Kamotz says... #22

2 Mortars, 1 Putrefy, 3 Polukranos, 3 Courser of Kruphix, 1 Domri Rade,

I'm constantly going back and forth on whether I'd rather have the Scavenging Oozes or the Coursers in the Control match. Currently, I feel that we need Scavenging Ooze to help against elixir of immortality and the post-boardwipe plan. However, we also need each bit of card advantage we can muster, and Courser helps filter through your lands that would otherwise be dead-draws. So I'm still testing things out.

My current sideboard brings in the following:

1x Chandra, 1x Xenagos, 2x Rakdos's Return, 2x Mistcutter, 2x Abrupt Decay, 2x Golgari Charm.

March 31, 2014 12:57 a.m.

Moogie says... #23

I run an R/G monsters deck, and I love the Courser of Kruphix paired with Domri Rade . Agree that Reaper of the Wilds is too slow in this deck. I like Ghor-Clan Rampager for the option to bloodrush.Looks like a fun deck!

April 2, 2014 3:29 p.m.

Schuesseled says... #24

Fanatic of xenagos > courser of kruphix for this type of deck

April 11, 2014 5:51 p.m.

Kamotz says... #25

Not at all. Courser does everything I need it to. Fanatic is a loxodon Smiter. And Smiter is pretty poorly positioned right now.

April 11, 2014 6:05 p.m.

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