Davie_Bones says... #2
Yeah but Narset only gives rebound using her -2, which means the spell only gets used once more then it's exiled.
The point of his deck is to keep using the spells over and over again.
March 7, 2015 8:49 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #3
Nah Davie_Bones, once the spell is cast after rebound it goes into the graveyard.
And I know all about the spoilers meleesqc. I work on the card database for this site after all :p
Anyways, Narset Transcendent is only good in sorcery laden decks. There are only two of these in modern. One is heavy control decks running discard and wraths. The other is esper mill. I'm running esper mill test right now AND OH BOY IS IT BRUTAL.
March 7, 2015 8:55 a.m.
Yokinicious says... #4
How about Aven Riftwatcher? Its 4 life per blink and is an extra flying body. Or maybe Nevermaker for tempo if u ramp for him. You could maybe also add Solemn Simulacrum and Coiling Oracle for ramping and maybe Pierce Strider as an extra wincon. Also how about some Isochron Scepters, Mimic Vats or even Conjurer's Closet for nearly unlimited blink? You know, not sure what to take out for then but i really would like to see what you think about these cards. Btw, +1! Just loved the deck and the in-depth description!
March 13, 2015 9:52 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #5
Almost none of those are modern playable Yokinicious. The Coiling Oracle is most modern playable card out of them all, but the rest aren't that good. Why would I want to run Pierce Strider instead of say Siege Rhino (which isn't in this build). Why run Aven Riftwatcher when I have Kitchen Finks? Isochron Scepter and Mimic Vat are Abrupt Decayable. Solemn Simulacrum should ONLY be played in EDH. Same goes with Conjurer's Closet. Nevermaker is shadowed by the fact that I run Mangara of Corondor.
March 13, 2015 11:15 p.m.
buildingadeck says... #7
Out of curiosity, why is Thragtusk a card you will not consider? Gaining 5 life upon ETB is often better than Wurmcoil Engine's effect, and it produces a token upon leaving rather than upon death. It should be a perfect fit for this type of deck.
With that being said, it's a nice build, so +1.
October 1, 2015 4:33 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #8
No. A 3 toughness creature does nothing in this format. I'd rather run Armada Wurm over Thragtusk, but I don't because Wurmcoil Engine is the all mighty win con. I run it because I don't need to protect it. I have to protect Thragtusk when it drops, and my win cons shouldn't need protecting. Thragtusk does not outright win me the game when it drops. Wurmcoil Engine certainly does.
October 1, 2015 6:20 a.m.
tyforthevenom says... #9
i do like how your resto angel can get extra value from your Ghostly Flicker
October 1, 2015 6:47 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #10
CanadianShinobi, Ryotenchi, FAMOUSWATERMELON: I believe you guys were complaining about control in modern? I suggest you guys give this a try. If not this, then Eternal Command.
October 9, 2015 7:02 p.m.
The_Redpill says... #11
I have been looking for a deck that basically does exactly what you are doing here. +1
October 9, 2015 7:02 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #12
Coincidently, I've been playing around with an Azorius flicker deck for a while, and I love it. A few things:
Replace the Cloudshift by Momentary Blinks. I know it's one extra mana, but the late-game value is fantastic, well worth the expensive flashback cost.
About Wurmcoil Engine: I know that you love to smack this into every single deck you can, but it has no synergy with anything and you really don't need it. If you want a big finisher that has synergy, is resiliant, and that comes down earlier, put two Akroma, Angel of Fury in. T4 6/6 evasive pro-PtE seems like a good deal to me. At the very least, knock one or two in your sideboard because it kills the UW control decks running around right now, and can equally cause Twin and other blue decks a huge pain.
Put 3-4 Lone Missionary in the mainboard. I'm serious, those things kill sooooooooo many strategies in Modern. The value they produce, even if just blinked once, is great.
Detention Sphere for removal perhaps? They also are nice when blinked, because you can change targets at instant speed.
October 9, 2015 8:02 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #13
You can't blink a Detention Sphere. But you can blink a Flickerwisp or a Fiend Hunter.
Does Akroma, Angel of Fury survive a Terminate? Does she survive being bolted in response to you trying to flicker her? The problem with Akroma is she is VERY fragile, and doesn't really synergize with Eternal Witness. Oh, and Wurmcoil Engine satisfies the Lone Missionary thing, which I would rather run Wall of Omens instead.
Another thing about Wurmcoil Engine: I don't have to protect it when I drop it down against RDW, merfolk or Jund. I can just drop it down the moment I get to 6 mana and laugh at them as I proceed to consume their removal spells while playing Eternal Witness' to replay it again.
You can't Turn 5 drop a Mystic Snake/Restoration Angel with a Momentary Blink in hand. Dropping down a Snake as soon as possible, and making it stick, is imperative in this deck
October 9, 2015 9:04 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #14
I've actually been considering Nissa, Worldwaker or Gaea's Revenge for this deck.
October 9, 2015 9:07 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #16
True, I use Flickerwisp in my deck, so my bad on that.
Of course Akroma doesn't, which is why you a) side her out or b) have her in the sideboard in the first place. But she makes for an excellent finisher against most decks that comes down earlier than your current finisher.
If you manage to get Wurmy down T6 against burn, you've already won. Also, Lone Missionary is miles better than Wall of Omens, and that comes from many games of testing. It's also a better card than Kitchen Finks in this particular build, so at the very least, give it those four side spots.
I can see your point about the T5 Snake with a flicker in hand, but I would still strongly suggest to up the Momentary Blink number by one or two.
Finally, if you're looking for a walker for this deck, Gideon could definitely work, but could the new kiora possibly do something? I have no experience with her though, so I don't know if she would fit the deck or not. But getting extra gas and leaving mana open for flickers doesn't seem like a bad deal.
October 9, 2015 9:18 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #17
The problem I have with Lone Missionary against RDW is that it can't trade for creatures and survive. Kitchen Finks can, and that is when you blink it so it can trade with another creature. This is the biggest point: being able to trade for creatures, as in a RDW deck, that is where most of the damage will be coming from, and if you can't stop that then you've lost. Kitchen Finks is also pretty imperative against Jund and Zoo too.
The number of decks running Terminate is around 25% of the meta. The number of decks running PtE are much less, around 15%. You can also kill a Akroma, Angel of Fury with two bolts, or a bolt+snappy/bolt+jace. Whereas a Wurmcoil Engine can only be killed with 2-4 removal spells and a creature. Akroma, Angel of Fury would definitely be a good card to use against control ... if it weren't for the fact that her morph can be countered and that she requires another card to be worthwhile. It is also important to note that WU control is practically dismissal in this meta in comparison to Jund, Twin, Delver and RDW.
October 9, 2015 10:14 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #18
You don't even need to block with the Missionary, just blink him once or twice and you've basically won, something that you can't do with Finks. Also worth noting that he comes down a turn earlier. I can understand why you're hesitant about him, but honestly, just try him out against a couple decks.
Akroma is great against Merfolk, UW Midrange and Control (which are 8% of the meta combined), and Twin. It could also probably hold its ground against U-Tron. I think that's enough for at least one sideboard spot.
October 9, 2015 10:41 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #19
Against control I'd rather run Thrun, the Last Troll or Sigarda, Host of Herons.
October 9, 2015 10:46 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #20
Both come down later, Thrun can be chumped, Sigarda can be countered when they have lots of mana open later. In any other deck I would agree with you, but in this particular build Akroma is fantastic. Also, those cards are only on control. Merfolk is a big deck right now, and Twin is always a major player.
October 9, 2015 10:49 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #21
Merfolk is 4% of the meta. Twin is the worst match-up for Akroma because of their Terminates and Lightning Bolts and Snapcaster Mages. Akroma can easily be wrathed, and counterspelled, and she comes down a lot later than you would think, because her morph form makes her a prime removal target.
Trust me, I used to run Akroma back when right after the Pod ban and Junk became top deck. That was where Akroma shined the most, but even then I still removed her because she was too fragile and too easy to prevent.
October 9, 2015 11:07 p.m. Edited.
I dont really play control.. I just dont like where modern is at entirely.. Its better than delver cruise.. but I built hatebears to play competitively and now its a developing competitive tier 2.5-3 deck.
3 biggest reasons I dont play control:
:P
October 10, 2015 12:53 a.m.
tyforthevenom says... #24
Instead of thrun why not Sagu Mauler can morph flicker or play on 6 has pseudo evasion and protection from targeted spells
October 10, 2015 2:06 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #25
Doesn't have regenerate and can be countered tyforthevenom.
meleesqc says... #1
Hey man, just do you know that theres a knew planeswalker that would fit in this deck cause of his -2 ability...
Check it out!
http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/narset-transcendant/
March 6, 2015 1:44 p.m.