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Commander / EDH Hipparchos

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griffstick says... #1

NewHorizons you are good at helping you could certainly help here

August 6, 2016 3:52 p.m.

Forkbeard says... #2

Hi there Hipparchos. I agree with griffstick, I think 2 or 3 ramp options would serve you well. Perhaps a few creatures like Birds of Paradise, Oracle of Mul Daya & Solemn Simulacrum. Overall though it looks like you've got the right idea, solid looking deck. My buddy Romer runs a pretty potent Riku list if you felt like checking it out for ideas:


Riku's Replicants

Commander / EDH Romer

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August 6, 2016 8:46 p.m.

Hipparchos says... #3

griffstick: Siege Behemoth seems like a great finisher card, specially in combination with the other win cons. Maybe after the weekend i'll revise my deck a bit. I'm not a big fan about suspend cards. I hope NewHorizons will leave a comment. :)

Forkbeard: I've tested his deck a lot on XMage. It's pretty solid. Birds of Paradise and Sylvan Caryatid are worth to put in though.

August 7, 2016 6:14 a.m.

Hipparchos says... #4

What do you guys think about Rude Awakening?

August 7, 2016 9:54 a.m.

ENZU says... #5

Wonder what all the hype is for haha. I mean it's hard to go wrong with Riku just because the guy is just pure value-town. A copied Decimate or Hull Breach is pretty good. I might also replace your counterspells and other one- shot things that are no good to copy with things like Reiterate.

I really like keeping mana open to copy stuff here and a really good way to do that is with Suspend and Rebound. Riku also discounts "as an additional cost to cast" effects so you can look into some of those. Im away from my main console right now or else I would gatherer search those things for you and pick out some highlights. I will say that Riku just needs big spells and support to succeed honestly. So just play lots of mana ramp and an occasional lightning greaves or something and it'll run fine. Since thi deck also plays pretty straight and fair I would run some stuff like Stranglehold to keep everyone else out of their comboes. Crystal Shard and things like it are good because they allow you to disrupt opponents, protect your conmander, or act as a gradual token producing engine.

I also think G populate is another word you can gatherer search for because chances are you'll have some interesting tokens in play.

August 7, 2016 12:42 p.m.

griffstick says... #6

Howl of the Horde seems really sweet here. And See the Unwritten seems sweet being copied. These two together is like 9 cmc look at the top 24 put 6 creatures revealed this way into play

August 7, 2016 3:50 p.m. Edited.

griffstick says... #7

I play tested that combo and got 23 worth in cmc of creatures

August 7, 2016 3:55 p.m.

Hipparchos says... #8

NewHorizons: Haha the hype train is real. :) True that, indeed. I may swap the counterspells for some cards you've mentioned. Yes, i try to stay fair with this deck. Playing control just to pull off infinite mana, tokens or turns is boring imo and for my playgroup. Thanks for your help and i'm still waiting for you card highlights. :D

griffstick: This combo is just awesome. ;) Having See the Unwritten six times on the stack is pretty much gg, providing that the creatures have haste ofc.

August 7, 2016 5:57 p.m.

ENZU says... #9

There's a mildly difficult combo you could incliude with Reiterate, Turnabout, and Riku of Two Reflections where you can get infinite mana. Considering all those cards are good independently i say they make decent additions.

August 7, 2016 6:55 p.m. Edited.

ENZU says... #10

I looked just because and Recurring Insight seems like the only rebound card worth including.

August 7, 2016 7:05 p.m.

ENZU says... #11

I also just looked it up and evoke works great w/ Riku b/c you can your cake and eat it too.

August 7, 2016 8:49 p.m.

ENZU says... #12

Ingot Chewer - destroying two artifacts and getting a dude for RRG is cute.Bloodbraid Elf - early game she's good by getting your lower cost set up spells. Lategame if you've got a lot of mana up on Riku you can potentially get 4 cards for 1 out of this.Master of Predicaments - a really fun card. Def underrated. Leaves mana up for some riku action as well.Galvanoth, Mind's Dilation and Cast Through Time are build dependent but worth considering.Stolen Identity

August 7, 2016 11:54 p.m.

Forkbeard says... #13

Speaking of chant + art hate, Acidic Slime could be another versatile double nuke.

August 8, 2016 1:15 a.m.

Hipparchos says... #14

Forkbeard: Thanks for your upvote, I really apprecaite it! :)

NewHorizons: Haha now you are on a roll. ;) Even though Bloodbraid Elf would fit into this deck, i'm not a big fan of Cascade in this deck. But the other cards are definitely worth a spot; specially Galvanoth + Mystical Tutor is a nice synergy.

The most important question for me right now is: What should i cut? And do i have enough Tutors for instants and sorceries?

August 8, 2016 3:57 a.m.

griffstick says... #15

I think Omniscience is worth putting in. If you have a full hand when you cast this that's just ridiculous. @NewHorizons I really like Cast Through Time, Hipparchos that's a perfect card cause even on its own it's crazy good.

August 8, 2016 7:20 a.m.

Hipparchos says... #16

griffstick: I'm not really convinced about Omniscience. It's bonkers in a Mono U deck yes, but keep in mind that i want to focus on playing fast. So the downside is its high CMC. Cast Through Time on the other hand has definitely a spot.

August 8, 2016 7:37 a.m.

Hipparchos says... #17

MegaMatt13: I'd be happy if you join the conversation and maybe you have some suggestions too. :)

August 8, 2016 9:07 a.m.

Hipparchos says... #18

I swapped Savage Beating for Impulse.

August 8, 2016 1:43 p.m.

MegaMatt13 says... #20

I love cloning decks :) +1

Would you consider swapping out Wall of Blossoms for Harmonize? Copying it with Riku for 6 cards is great value.

I'm also curious about win conditions. How do you intend to close out games? Is it just through incremental value with copying stuff? Would you consider cards like Comet Storm or Purphoros, God of the Forge as win conditions?

August 8, 2016 4:20 p.m.

Hipparchos says... #21

MegaMatt13: Thanks for your upvote and ofc joining the discussion. :)

I'll definitely swap Wall of Blossoms with another card, but i don't know which one yet. Harmonize sounds great as a replacement.

Well, my win condition is pretty much casting my bombs, copy them and attack. I have one infinte creature combo in this deck (Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Zealous Conscripts , but i won't use it due to my playgroup.

I stay away from cards like Purphoros, God of the Forge, Avenger of Zendikar and Craterhoof Behemoth, because i already have them in my Prossh, Skyraider of Kher deck. ;)

August 8, 2016 4:42 p.m.

MegaMatt13 says... #22

I can understand that. Sometimes I get bored of the overused win condition cards too. I purposely stayed away from Craterhoof Behemoth in my Rhys' Pieces of Token Spam deck.

A card that I love in my Keranos: It's All Mine! is Dominus of Fealty. Copying him would be bonkers. Not sure if you want to go into stealing other people's stuff.

August 8, 2016 5:20 p.m.

Hipparchos says... #23

MegaMatt13: Indeed, after playing this combo several times it starts to be boring. I mean, it fits perfect into a Prossh deck, because you need at least one different win condidtion. But i don't want to use it in my second deck again.

I swapped Zealous Conscripts for Dominus of Fealty. Let's see how it works. I hope i won't get mana screwed. Maybe i should revise my mana base too.

I've made some huge changes (16 cards in total); primarily i removed all counter spells.

August 8, 2016 5:42 p.m.

MegaMatt13 says... #24

Your mana base looks really good. You've got a lot of dual lands, chromatic lantern, explosive vegetation, kodama's reach.

I like the "Temple" series of dual lands. They are affordable. Yes, they come into play tapped but I think the ability to scry 1 is worth it. Temple of Epiphany, Temple of Mystery, Temple of Abandon.

August 8, 2016 6:02 p.m.

griffstick says... #25

I personally like to try to put all temple land (Scry lands) and all bounce lands in every deck. And I hate the sac search lands like of any kind as they waste a land spot.

August 8, 2016 6:24 p.m.

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