@PTsmitty: I respectfully disagree, given that we have different goals for our decks. While I admit that 7 damage on turn 2 is great, I also have seen far too many Emissary/Mauler decks out there, and I can't bring myself to conform. Moreover, a first-turn Pilgrim allows for a second-turn Silverblade Paladin which can then be paired with either a third-turn Skyknight Legionnaire or even a Ghor-Clan Rampager . (And if it's a Skyknight I'll likely have mana left over for either a Giant Growth or a Rancor , to boot.)
I can see myself pulling a land or two, but I'd probably toss in two copies of Slaughterhorn to add to my wealth of combat tricks. Mayor of Avabruck Flip isn't a bad idea, though; I had him in a recent revision of the deck but pulled him for the Champions.
February 21, 2013 10:38 p.m.
Oh, see now I did not realize you were still planning on casting Ghor-Clan Rampager as a creature. Any time I have seen that card used is was only for their bloodrush cost. So having the mana ramp makes sense to me now. You said you have seen the combo I have mention a lot lately. Ever consider Volcanic Strength for your sideboard? If they are running that combo they are bound to have a dual land that also produces a mountain so that be an unblockable creature every turn. Either way, the deck looks pretty good. GL with play testing and getting all the kwirks and jerks figured out.
February 22, 2013 7:40 a.m.
Loxodon Smiter may be a safer play than Ghor-Clan Rampager given that it's one cheaper in mana and adds to your primary colour (white) instead.
I made a similar deck you can find here. It's without a red splash though - You Can't Hit Me Back
February 22, 2013 9:24 a.m.
PierceTheVeilMemphisMayFire says... #5
If you are thinking about slaughterhorn, I reccomend the bloodrush for one green that grants deathtouch and +1/+2
February 22, 2013 11:51 a.m.
Probably five out of six times I use Ghor-Clan Rampager it is for his Bloodrush ability, but depending on what I draw he can be more useful as a creatureespecially if I can drop him on turn three with the help of card:Avacyn's Pilgrim. When Bloodrushed he can cause a Fencing Ace to swing for 10 on turn three, but if I bond him to a Silverblade Paladin he can swing for 8 himself every turn thereafter. Given that he has trample, he actually benefits far more from double strike than does Loxodon Smiter , which I think I'll move to my sideboard against control decks.
Volcanic Strength is a solid sideboard option, but I really try to steer clear of Auras because removal usually just turns them into card advantage for your opponent. Rancor is a special exception, of course.
February 22, 2013 11:54 a.m.
@PierceTheVeilMemphisMayFire: I love Wasteland Viper , especially with double striking tramplers. It's hilarious to deal one damage to virtually anything and trample the next seven-plus through--and even better if it's someone else's Boros Reckoner you're killing in the process.
I'll try pulling card:Slayers' Stronghold out since I really don't activate them very often and replacing them with the snake. We'll see how that works for a while.
February 22, 2013 1:46 p.m.
PierceTheVeilMemphisMayFire says... #8
Yes that's the card!! lol. I think it would be great against aggro decks,
February 22, 2013 3:19 p.m.
Edit: After much consideration I've chosen to replace Wasteland Viper with Wild Hunger -- a devastating combat instant with double strikers.
February 23, 2013 12:39 a.m.
PierceTheVeilMemphisMayFire says... #10
I agree with that, especially due to the flashback
February 23, 2013 1:52 p.m.
infinitemana says... #11
Gavony Township ? It is perfect for decks like this. You could also maybe add a singleton Five-Alarm Fire with so many double-strikers. I know its not great card but it's so much fun.
February 24, 2013 10:38 a.m.
@infinitemana: I think Gavony Township is too slow for this deck, as it won't be usable until T5 at the earliest, and my spare mana is much better spent on bloodrushes, Giant Growth , and Wild Hunger rather than a couple of +1/+1 counters. Five-Alarm Fire was temping for a moment, until I realized that T3 is a pivotal moment for me, as it's when I strive to either drop a Silverblade Paladin or pair the one I played on T2 with something nasty. I just don't think I'd ever play it over any other 3CMC card in my deck, unless I drew nothing else whatsoever at that mark--in which case I've probably already lost the game (and it won't do me much good, anyway).
February 24, 2013 9:45 p.m.
Kessig Wolf Run is a great card, especially with double strike. Maybe Cleaver Riot just because it supports the theme, although it's not the best card.
February 27, 2013 7:19 p.m.
@Chubbub: Kessig Wolf Run is a great land, but in this deck I have a few problems with it: (1) I run 22 land, and can't afford to hamper my colored mana production much more than that; (2) it costs a bare minimum of 2 mana to activate, without a power bonus. In this deck I typically prefer to pump my mana into bloodrushing an unblocked creature. Overall, I honestly prefer Slayers' Stronghold to Kessig Wolf Run because +2/+0 and Vigilance are a great combination with double strike--and for the same cost (or cheaper) than KWR offers.
February 27, 2013 7:42 p.m.
@Chubbub: Thank you for your feedback. I'm not out to deny suggestions needlessly; if you have any others I'm open to them.
February 27, 2013 7:46 p.m.
Yeah, it's fine. Wild Beastmaster might be pretty sick, even if it only pumps by 1, if they have double strike, that's an extra 2 damage from one creature. Check out my deck, A Superfriendly Walk on Esper. +1
February 27, 2013 7:50 p.m.
Champion of Lambholt, Wild Beastmaster and Mayor of Avabruck Flip are standard suggestions for this sort of thing.
The champion helps you get through damage.
The wild beastmaster can be so amazing - especially with Rancor or Slayers' Stronghold / Kessig Wolf Run
Mayor of Avabruck Flip just has nice synergy well with a predominantly human deck. Even if he transforms he starts spitting out 3/3 tokens.
February 27, 2013 8 p.m.
@Chubbub and ChiefBell: Out of all the options listed above, I'd like most to add Wild Beastmaster and Slayers' Stronghold to this deck. Champion of Lambholt won't have a lot of time to get big here unless I ramp with Avacyn's Pilgrim and drop it on T2. (But that's when I typically prefer to play Fencing Ace and slap it with Rancor). Mayor of Avabruck Flip isn't bad, but he's less useful overall if he transforms. There are more aggressive options, I believe.
That said, here's what I'm considering; please tell me what you guys think. I can remove the singleton Forest and Plains and try running 2x Slayers' Stronghold as a test. If my mana base remains functional, they'll stay. I can drop the 2x Wild Hunger and include a few copies of Wild Beastmaster. His power will stay low, forcing me to choose carefully between using Rancor on him or a double striker, but if I Giant Growth him I can pump my entire army for G. I think that deserves a shot.
I pass priority--any responses?
February 27, 2013 8:42 p.m.
IMO: Farbog Explorer for SB or Knight of Glory also. This of course is for local meta's. Depending on who shows up, I change out my deck before registering. A lot of players are heavy black or red, and many are both. Rarely do I see the people who play bant or any duo combination of r blue/white/green show up. Those 2 cards and Volcanic Strength have won many games for the pro-color effect. Even Guildscorn Ward has been amazing. I know, I know, garbage card, but for "W" it's effective for the local meta to make it resilient to Izzet Staticaster+Nightshade Peddler combo, or blocking Armada Wurm's etc.
February 28, 2013 9:57 a.m.
@Enyeto: My local meta was, pre-GTC, very Golgari, Selesnya, and Naya oriented. There are a few guys running Bant or Esper decks, though. I've taken some of your advice and put Volcanic Strength into my sideboard; it'll probably be a huge problem for Boros players--which I expect a lot of these days.
Thank you for your feedback.
February 28, 2013 10:06 a.m.
I play Naya a lot as well. One thing I board in is Blasphemous Act and because I do, I know other people are as well, for the quick 13 off Boros Reckoner. Since I've died to that a few times, or because some people might want to infinite loop or straight up kill, I chose to move 3x Aurelia's Fury into my side. I never need to cast it for more than x = 2 and most the time just x = 1 to prevent that combo, of if x = 2, tap their best guy and let me through on my attack. (queue debbie downer sound effect) ;p
February 28, 2013 10:16 a.m.
There's no reason to not be running Boros Reckoner. It's simply too good to ignore.
The potential it has to change the game in your favor is too great.
February 28, 2013 10:23 a.m.
@Enyeto: Yeah, my sideboard is in a state of flux; I haven't played enough at my LGS to really have the meta figured out yet, so it's less about me planning around it and more like trying to give myself some lateral moves. I'd love to put 3x Aurelia's Fury in there, but I only own one copy and this deck is otherwise completely ready for FNM.
I can add the others with the intent to purchase them in time, but I can't play with them yet. I choose not to run Reckoner, and to insead use Skyknight Legionnaire for its evasion. Pairing them with a potential T2 Silverblade Paladin could upset more than a few games. Rancor makes it even better.
February 28, 2013 10:32 a.m.
@zandl: Besides trying not to do nothing but abuse the flavor-of-the-month "OP" card, my options at the 3 CMC mark are already cluttered. Silverblade Paladin isn't optional in this deck, and given the choice between Reckoner and Skyknight Legionnaire I'm willing to take the risk (at least initially) that a flying double striker will win more games than you'd assume. I own two Reckoners, and can always swap them in later on if I turn out to be wrong.
PTsmitty says... #1
Personally, I do not think you need the 4x card:Avacyn's Pilgrims due to you running 24 land already. Perhaps run Mayor of Avabruck Flip to boost all of your humans or let him flip and create a 3/3 wolf each turn. Another option would be drop 2 land along with the Pilgrim's and then add +3 Lightning Mauler and +3 Burning-Tree Emissary . Playing a turn 1 Champion of the Parish followed by the Emissary and then the Mauler is a devastating 7 damage turn 2! Feel free to check out my deck The Champion of Boros for some more ideas if you'd like.
February 21, 2013 10:23 p.m.