Erebos, God Of All Of The All The Of Enchantments
Commander / EDH
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shlinky9544 says... #4
Just so you are aware Kokusho, the Evening Star can not be used as a commander. other then that, looks like a solid deck.
November 7, 2014 2:31 p.m.
I literally just took down a comment after trying to quietly answer this about 45 seconds ago. Looks like I need to point people to a permanent link.
As of September 2014, Kokusho has been completely unbanned as either Commander or to be put into the Deck. This, along with Metalworker were the only two format changes. I'll post a link. Also, "banned as commander" has been done away in a previous banned list. Below is from the official commander website.
http://mtgcommander.net/EDH_Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17210
Here is the link. A gentle reminder to all future onlookers that the Commander website is the most recently updated page, and that WoTC's page has not yet been updated. Commander is not a format managed by WoTC.
However, that being said, if just to get people to stop bothering me on this, does anyone have a better idea for a commander? Since Stabwhisker is a flip commander and therefore not a valid choice, does anyone have any other legendary creatures that would facilitate high amounts of life drain? It needs to have no other creature production than the commander itself.
November 7, 2014 2:37 p.m.
Slipthrough says... #6
Patron of the Nezumi and Maga, Traitor to Mortals are the only other two I could think of that are mono black with life-drain effects.
November 7, 2014 4:19 p.m.
Glanced through all of the mono-black creatures out there and found that except for Erebos, God of the Dead, and Kokusho, the Evening Star, nothing really struck my fancy. As I don't have Erebos, I'll be sticking with Kokusho as my only creature.
I have removed all Megrim style cards, and have instead gone with group hugging via artifacts. Suggestions on Monoblack pillow forting?
November 7, 2014 4:56 p.m.
Rather durdle-tastic card. I'm also trying to have the deck be creatureless. I'll explain more in the description later.
November 13, 2014 5:18 p.m.
Thanks for taking time to comment
Ob Nixillis as a human turned out to be a supremely disappointing commander. His -2 is kind of weak and the deck is also not supposed to have creatures.
However, I'm assuming you meant his +2, which is ok for the cost. His ultimate is also useless in this deck, and Erebos can do it better and faster. Also, Kokusho would have out powered his +2 easily. (Kokusho has been unbanned before we start that conversation)
November 13, 2014 10:37 p.m.
Four Suggestions; Mindcrank. killing off their decks would be amazing, especially if they have sensei's top out and you just place down sensei's top and make them mil the card they just drew.
Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath, Giving you a bit less focus and giving him some with Garenteed grain and/or a 5/5 Flying blocker incase Flyers every become a giant issue.
Grave Betrayal, that and a Board wipe Giving you a ton of Blockers or enough fire power to turn the match around in your favor. At the worst you have a 2 Devotion and everyone is a bit more cautious of killing their creatures.
Silent Arbiter, I know you said you didn't want any creatures But Silent could seriously be a godsend against some decks. Especially if you get matched against a token deck or a Flyer. might not even be in your best interest and you might gain an ally for a bit.
December 12, 2014 8:27 p.m.
Thanks for commenting!
No creatures.
That's the challenge, that means no creatures period with the sole exception being Waste Not. Since these three feature creatures as a primary component, I"m going to have to pass on them. Mindcrank is nice, but this isn't a mill deck. Still, this combos nicely with Liability to no end, but it offers no other synergy with anything else.
December 13, 2014 12:49 a.m.
Megalomania says... #13
Cool concept! ever ran into Aura Shards and All Is Dust? Those cards are the ones that give my deck Apocalypse Project problems from time to time.
Try using Yawgmoth's Will. It won't necessarily get all your enchantments back into play but it might be the best black has to offer.
Also, i'd replace Charcoal Diamond and/or Coldsteel Heart with Jet Medallion and/or Cloud Key.
Also, Thespian's Stage and Skeletal Scrying might be worth considering.
December 14, 2014 4:40 a.m.
Thanks for the comments again, these were closer to what I was looking for.
Thespian's Stage and Vesuva sound good, but Skeletal Scrying is problematic because nothing ever ends up in the graveyard except for mass wiping shenanigans. Yawgmoth's Will is a great idea.
No All Is Dust yet, but I have encountered Aura Shards. My only response to it was to promptly hardcast Curse of the Cabal on him.
December 14, 2014 5:03 a.m.
Bravo! Awesome idea for a deck, love the discard enchantments. I've been working on a similar deck with fringe enchantments. one that i dream about putting Lich Into. Except there are creatures in the deck. Cards that work well with discard like Haakon, Stromgald Scourge or Nether Traitor with a smattering of aura enchantments. You should take a look it is very far from a definitive list so any insight is good.
December 17, 2014 11:29 p.m.
You have a lot of lands. A lot. I would only run this many in an Azusa deck. Maybe trim down to 35-36 and add some more of your enchants back in?
December 17, 2014 11:35 p.m.
This....is actually a good point, I seem to have a full 10 land extra in there. Where in the world did I not see that bit of oversight?
I'll add some back in.
December 17, 2014 11:38 p.m.
This is intended to be an absolute, completely creatureless deck. The amount of solid creature hate inside well out does the need for creatures, plus I do not need them to bring other decks to their knees.
Forcefeed isn't a style of deck like standard discard decks. Forcefeed is to have everyone just enough cards to not be useful, yet enough to bleed them dry with Megrim and Liliana's Caress. It doesn't go too far into the discard theme because Quest for the Nihil Stone and Wheel of Torture require too much work. Everyone will be expending resources for more cards. This deck is rather going to focus on killing everyone directly.
E.g. Play Font of Mythos, before any responses, Use Erebos, God of the Dead's abillity twice, activate Words of Waste twice and watch them bleed. That's forcefeed, only it's supposed to be much better than having to use Erebos' ability (he's expensive).
December 18, 2014 12:16 a.m.
No problem, it's an unusual style of deck because I don't think this is a style of deck. It's fun to have found something completely original. I can't even find modern decks or legacy with this style of gameplay. Nekusar maybe? Except without all the Nekusar.
December 18, 2014 12:22 a.m.
Like the idea of all those black permanents on my field and the accumulated value attached and Erebos at the center.
December 18, 2014 12:31 a.m.
LegionnaireNilloc says... #24
Really like the deck, though I don't see the synergy between liability with words of waste or word of command. Liability only triggers when a non token permanent leaves the battlefield, not from the hand or library, so discard and cards like mindcrank have no synergy there. But a card that does is Bloodchief Ascension! I would also suggest Sorin Markov!
December 18, 2014 12:02 p.m.
LegionnaireNilloc says... #25
Doh, just saw you have the ascension. But yeah, your deck reminds me of my deck, Havoc Reflection. Very similar game plan!
Eboksba says... #1
Feel free to suggest cards to add or remove.
Just know that NO creatures or creature production will go in, it's just to be a Reverse Voltron deck with either Kokusho or Stabwhisker as commander.
October 17, 2014 11:17 p.m.