Erebos, God Of All Of The All The Of Enchantments

Commander / EDH Eboksba

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Eboksba says... #1

Next edition will be up shortly.

December 22, 2014 5:38 p.m.

SealableZero says... #2

Wound Reflection might be nice with mana ramp and Exsanguinate or Drain Life

December 23, 2014 2:46 a.m.

Eboksba says... #3

Both of which were already included. ;P

December 23, 2014 9:43 a.m.

kameenook says... #4

Mindcrank in my opinion is a must include. It really hates on any scry 1/2s. If you have enough damage at your opponent even Sensei's Divining Top becomes really bad. Also Mindcrank + active Bloodchief Ascension? If you're going to tutor up something, might as well try and end the game. Mindcrank is also good in the fact that your opponent will either hit you, or each other. If they're hitting each other it's just gravy to watch cards fall into the yard.

December 23, 2014 12:04 p.m.

Eboksba says... #5

Wow, I seem to have misread Mindcrank. This could be a lot more powerful than I thought.

I will playtest it, and if it does well, I will run it.

December 23, 2014 12:10 p.m.

buttergolem says... #6

Grim Guardian. Also, maybe Thoughtrender Lamia, for the constellation.

December 23, 2014 4:04 p.m.

Eboksba says... #7

I think I need to make a "I don't use creatures" disclaimer in the next version. Essentially, blah blah blah, there are too many boardwipes in my meta and I'm part of the problem, blah blah, my deck is supposed to be immune to boardwipes, blah blah, blah.

December 23, 2014 4:13 p.m.

zerowner says... #8

Altar of Shadows might help you get out more enchantments, and it removes things for you as well!

December 24, 2014 2:38 a.m.

Eboksba says... #9

Very, very, very expensive, even for EDH. When you start getting around to that range of mana cost, you're going to want more bang to your buck when people start tossing around 15 copies of Craterhoof Behemoth. I'd probably put Mutilate for that slot, but unlikely. Still, thanks for the comment.

December 24, 2014 2:40 a.m.

phil125 says... #10

Have you thought about Drain Life and Syphon Soul as cheap life gain to counteract the self bleeding?

December 24, 2014 11:38 p.m.

Eboksba says... #11

I gave them both a lot of thought,I"ve been a big fan of Drain Life (but not really syphon soul). It has several problems, but the benefits highly outweigh the cons.

When I draw a drain life, I wouldn't use this until I have at least 5 I can spend for x at bare minimum. Since I'm in a black ramp deck, It shouldn't bee that difficult to ramp up to an average of 10-11ish.

Pro:

Exactly what the deck needs/trying to do.Black and fairly cost effective for what it does.Can be scaled to be exactly what you want it to be.Excellent Art (lets be honest, this is an unofficial major requirement that people have when looking at cards. in the event that someone doesn't like a given card, its more than likely they'll try to find every excuse on why they don't like that card for some other reason than saying the art is ugly.)Cannot be stolen by effects such as Memory Plunder.Classy. Make sure to extend pinkie when you cast the card.

Con:

Sorcery speed.You will generally dump all of your mana and perhaps a Boseiju, Who Shelters All into the mix, basically turning your entire turn into a major drain fest (which is actually not really a con now that I think about it).1 target. Your opponents eternally have more resources than you, and focusing one person draws a lot of hate. It is more likely you can only use this card until there's only one person left.

December 24, 2014 11:51 p.m.

It can also prevent hate. Imagine there is one other person controlling the board and two that are substantially weaker. Just kill the strongest and waltz yours way to the end of the game. Drain Lifes cons arent actually that big of cons and are easily played around.

December 25, 2014 5:46 a.m.

I really like this deck, but do you think you could do a B/W Enchantment deck? I feel like white has so much to offer.

December 25, 2014 4 p.m.

Eboksba says... #14

The criteria for the cards in this deck are very specific. The cards need to have a clear cohesive them and possibility to consistently and reliably drain life. A primary alternate method of this is to use Megrimesque cards and use discard effects to cause mass amounts of pain. For the moment, it works just fine.

So after siting and stewing on it for a while, I decided that I need to weed out the cards with little instant card impact.

Font of Mythos and Howling Mine both fit that bill quite easily.

Oppression, Bottomless Pit, Megrim, Liliana's Caress providing that instant edge that just makes the deck that much better.

Much of the deck is already dedicated to a discard deck, but the alternative to a non-discard deck will free up quiiiite a lot of cards and space for other interesting card combinations.

I gave the card choices some thought. Given the remaining cards that are EDH worthy and fit the slot I'm looking to fill, these are what would be switched.

Oppression ->Blood Reckoning

Bottomless Pit ->Curse of Wizardry

Megrim ->Dark Suspicions

Liliana's Caress ->Desolation

Howling Mine ->Urza's Armor

Font of Mythos ->Thought Prison

Words of Waste ->Mindcrank

Anvil of Bogardan ->Pariah's Shield

Waste Not ->Ward of Bones

Ill-Gotten Gains ->Null Profusion

Thoughts?

December 25, 2014 4:15 p.m.

Eboksba says... #15

B/W certainly has a lot to offer. Lets take a brief look at available card choice (and while I'm at it, discuss how to make a really good, powerful, flavorful commander deck in the process.)

Criteria for commander in this style of gameplay: Immune to its own deck. Can be boardwiped safely. Can defend very well without dying often. Can provide an affect that causes much consternation to opponents. Has an active that permits a way to have variety of tricks to get out of certain situations (as enchantments in your hand cannot offer much out of turn abilities). Extreme life-drain, which is to be expected from a B/W deck. Debt to the Deathless is an example of a card that we'd be looking for.

The commander decision needs to come first. There are a total of 8 B/W legendary creatures that fit the bill. Of them, only two reliably can pull off an ability that is cohesive. Obzedat, Ghost Council and Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts.

Of these two abilities, we have only one that can defend well, and that's Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts. Lets see what she offers.

She can attack on her free time. However, at the 7 cmc mark, most of the board has already gotten crazy flooded with things, which limits the usefulness. This con is completely removed at the onset of her Pro: Creatures ability, basically allowing her to attack for free.

She's a 2nd No Mercy effect, which quite frankly I can't get enough of. The ability to make flying spirits (keyword flying) offers considerable protection that not even Erebos, God of the Dead can.

The next step to see if this is B/W compatible is to take a look at all B/W and W enchantments. The B/W list is rather limited and none fit the mechanics, however, the W enchantments have a lot of pillow forting abilities that could come in handy, perhaps most notably Lightmine Field and Sphere of Safety. However, when it comes to a win con, these cards actually need to take up precious deck space dedicated to my win con. Protection is nice, but playing and playing against pillow fort decks are what I imagine shaving my teeth with a razor feels like. Or tongue.

I took at look at the other colors (now interested) and determined that the only real color combinations that would work would be B/R, B/G, Or a Jund deck based on this.

Then It got goofy and I made an every color deck. Not sure what came over to me. Anyway I digress...

What do you think people, would a deck like that have enough toys to handle all 15 gods and all the best enchantments? A very minor preliminary list can be found here:

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rise-of-the-gods-copy/

The most feasible for this currently is Pharika, God of Affliction and Mogis, God of Slaughter. My complete list of all golgari compatible cards can be found here:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/pharika-god-of-killing-all-the-things/

December 25, 2014 4:32 p.m.

WorkHorse says... #18

The grass will always be greener on the other side... But then, that's a good problem to have, right? Just be careful that you don't over-think this.

I recommend taking a step back and building (not re-building) your deck via reverse-engineering. Start by asking yourself questions about how you want the game to end. Do you want to win, just have fun, or both? Be wary of building decks around the commander, because you might just paint yourself into a poopy corner.

IMO, decks that get built around a commander tend to have a major weakness: The commander in the command zone. I'm sure you already knew this, but just wanted to make sure you don't overlook it.

After reading this thread, I'm hoping that you'll end up building a new deck instead of rebuilding this one.

December 26, 2014 1:57 p.m.

Eboksba says... #20

That I agree with. The deck is running marvelously at the moment. The only thing I could see that it actually needs is Imp's Mischief and some way to handle All Is Dust. Just got hit by that and it took about 9 enchantments and Erebos with it, which was sad because he wad down to 5 health and I at 15. Oh well.

December 26, 2014 5:45 p.m.

WorkHorse says... #21

Best answer I can think of in black would be to force him to discard as a preventative action.

If you played this deck against me a lot, I'd definitely stack something like All Is Dust in my deck too. That's why I show up with three or four decks at my LGS just to keep people on their toes.

Let us know what you decide to do.

December 26, 2014 6:21 p.m.

TheFanatic says... #22

I very much like the deck idea, it's an interesting concept. +1 for you.

The main reason I'm here, however, is the deck's title. I'm not sure I understand it. Is it just a typo, or is there some reason you intentionally made the title nonsensical?

December 29, 2014 11:06 p.m.

Eboksba says... #24

Simply put, its because I didn't have another good name for it. Suggestions anyone?

December 30, 2014 10:41 a.m.

Erebos demands a blood sacrifice

December 30, 2014 11:14 a.m.

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