DSK - Dimir Control

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EastsideRock says... #1

Demon86RM Grazie italien friend! Definitely Excellent Firecrackers seems like it would be awesome to target with GDD, netting a hefty 8 damages + 4/4 menace for 8 mana. I might have to up my Ruinous Path game in the main, I'm just a sucker to not losing turn 4 to fast decks which is why I value Grasps so much. For now the deck is pretty well balanced though, obviously people will do some modifications on personal preferences and local Metas.

Cheers buddy! Let us know how your build does in your LGS!

June 1, 2016 11:07 a.m. Edited.

NutsRobin says... #2

Here is the my Mardu version. It is fairly similar, and I am still testing it:

June 1, 2016 5:26 p.m.

NutsRobin says... #3

Ok I guess I was just kidding, but it is up on the site

June 1, 2016 5:27 p.m.

monkeynutts85 says... #4

Quick question.

How does this deck deal with Relentless Dead and Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger?

June 15, 2016 5:51 p.m.

EastsideRock says... #5

Relentless is trumped by Kalitas, or hand disruption. Obliterations too if you want to use it on him.

Ulamog is harder, hopefully Obliterations, hand disruption works too.

June 16, 2016 1:15 p.m. Edited.

EDHplaya says... #6

can't wait to see where deck goes with new EMN cards!

June 28, 2016 6:02 p.m.

EastsideRock says... #7

Thx! Oh Pact-Donate, no you didn't! haha cool, I'll have a look!

July 4, 2016 1:55 p.m.

DarkAngel367 says... #8

How's the deck been working lately? I think I'm going to start playing grixis again. (Everything Else just isn't as fun).

What out of Eldritch Moon do you think will find a spot in this deck? I'm really liking Murder, especially because you just get to be like, "I'll Murder your Sylvan Advocate" etc..

Also, what do you think of the new Liliana?

July 4, 2016 10:40 p.m.

DarkAngel367 says... #9

Also I love the fact that your still using Epiphany's, I haven't seen much of them in decklists lately.

July 5, 2016 2:46 a.m.

EastsideRock says... #10

Waddup DarkAngel367, out of EMN I'm currently looking at Lily for some early game stalls + creature recursion, Lily oath for some extra card types + sac effect + zombie-making, I like the new burn spell deal 3/exile, I'm even seriously also considering saccing Matter Reshapers to Mindbender, I really like Mindbender and Reshaper is definitely the best target to sac it to but I'm worried about making colorless mana, we'll just have to see what kind of other lands gets printed. We still don't have the full picture so all this is speculation, but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. Ans YES Murder will very probably make the cut in some number somewhere in the 75.

Indeed, Epiphany is a little less good since we up our GDD count, but still very efficient at drawing and filling the yard. Unless we get a better instant drawing effect, I don't see these 2 copies leaving the main.

July 5, 2016 3:08 p.m.

EastsideRock says... #11

OH MY GOD, Becky look at this card!!! NAHIRI'S FUCKING WRATH!!!!

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WOW, so just have to make sure to draw enough and this is the complete BIZZOMB! AND valid target for GDD!! :D

BOLAS be like: ''Good, good Nahiri, YES! use your ANGERRRR!''

July 6, 2016 11:56 a.m.

EastsideRock says... #12

This seems like the dream. As long as I always draw enough to be at least up a card every other turn, this wrath is bonkers. Just need a few finishers and we got a deck. Likely gonna run 4 Chandras, some Mindbenders, heck it even synergizes with Emra!...either you pitch it for tremendous amount of damage, or you selectively fuel your yard for it!...We're gonna have fun guys!

July 6, 2016 12:20 p.m.

EastsideRock says... #13

Here's the list of EMN cards I'm thinking of - I'm kinda feeling a draw/Nahiri's wrath shell, not sure if viable yet though

C Distended Mindbender
C Emrakul
C Nephalia Academy
U Contigency Plan
U Convolute
U Imprisoned in the Moon
U Lunar Force
U Scour the Laboratory
U Take Inventory
U Turn Aside
U Unsubstantiate
B Lili
B Murder
B Oath of Lili
B Succumb to Temptation
B Whispers of Emrakul
R Collective Defiance
R Incendiary Flow
R Nahiri's Wrath

July 8, 2016 12:45 p.m.

EastsideRock says... #14

Forgot a few:

C Geier Reach Sanitarium
C Eternal Scourge
U Fortune's Favor

July 8, 2016 1:40 p.m.

ArmyJM07 says... #15

I'm definitely leaning more towards delirium with EMN, I feel that Emerge and Delirium are going to see play in this standard. I can see an Abzan build very similar to Dragon's and Thero's block Abzan with Abundant Maw, Linvala, the Preserver, etc. Which are reminiscent of Wingmate Roc and Siege Rhino, Gideon, Ally of Zendikar as the new Elspeth, Sun's Champion, Transgress the Mind or Duress for Thoughtseize etc. With delirium support creature's and and Sylvan Advocate I think it's viable.

As for Grixis, I don't really see much more in support for control players with this set, G/W and Bant humans decks got quite a lot in comparison.

That being said:

Fortune's Favor seems good close enough to fact or fiction

Geier Reach Sanitarium Good, cheap efficient draw, downside may be an issue, but if you use it with Fevered Visions it becomes better.

Distended Mindbender Could be a decent finisher, and great for a trade, for example if they price your Goblin Dark-Dwellers or Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet trade it with Mindbender, or Abundant Maw.

I don't think Eternal Scourge is all that great (I mean it can block for days, but if you do and it dies it goes to the graveyard where you can't recast it); You would need a way to exile creatures from the graveyard for that to be really worth it, say Scavenging Ooze I would rather play Soul Separator and you can Recur your Dark-Dwellers.

I wouldn't play Murder over Ruinous Path unless you play delirium and run To the Slaughter or Imprisoned in the Moon.

I'm rather interested in that Devil Horror, 6RR instants and sorcery spells reduce it's casting cost by one, might be interesting in a UR Horror build.

July 8, 2016 9:15 p.m.

ArmyJM07 says... #16

Here's somewhat of a combo if anyone is interested in a Zombie theme Eternal Scourge + Corpseweft, discard eternal scourge or mill it into your graveyard etc. Exile it with corpsewefts ability cast it from exile etc. There are probably better things to do or better ways to get scourge into exile and back in the graveyard.

July 8, 2016 9:29 p.m.

ArmyJM07 says... #17

Here's a rough idea of an Abzan list post EMN.

Lands:

3x Hissing Quagmire

3x Shambling Vents

4x Canopy Vista

3x Fortified Village

3x Geier Reach Sanitarium

4x Evolving Wilds

2x Swamp

2x Forest

2x Plains

Creatures

4x Abundant maw

3x Den Protector

4x Sylvan Advocate

4x liliana, the heretical healer

2x Sigarda, Heron's Grace

4x Eternal Scourge

Planeswalkers

4x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar

2x Sorin, Grim Nemesis

Sorcery

4x Transgress the mind

Instant

3x Anguished Unmaking

2x Grasp of Darkness

Sideboard

2x Linvala, the preserver

3x Clip Wings

July 8, 2016 10:03 p.m.

EastsideRock says... #18

Wuddup ArmyJM07, your Abzan list seems deece but personaly I always keeps it Grix man.

My first round of testing will be with Jace, GDD, Lily, Nahiri's Wrath, card draw and Emerakul. I'm gonna be trying to keep cards up by drawing with black cards (although painful but GDD friendly), pitch them to Nahiri, reccur shit with GDD/Jace/Lily, hard cast Emrakul.

Here's the core I have in my head right now (by card type for Emra's sake);
4 Jace
3 GDD
2 Emra

3 Lilis
2 Chandras

3 Lily Oaths
2 imprisoned

2 Nahiri's wrath
X Radiant Flames / Languish
2 Bones
1-2 Collective Defiance

2 Succumb
X Grap / Murder

Sideboard:
The only thing I'm really excited about is probably a Matter Reshaper / Mindbender package :D

BOLAS!

July 9, 2016 7:35 p.m.

ArmyJM07 says... #19

July 9, 2016 7:43 p.m.

ArmyJM07 says... #20

Matter Reshaper and Distended Mindbender are ment to be played together; there is possibly a descent G/B Eldrazi build that could be put together. With Minderbender's, Matter Reshapers, Eternal Scourge and Abundant Maw's; using Beastcaller Savant as your Noble Hierarch, and Terrarion or some other mana ramp.

July 9, 2016 7:52 p.m.

EastsideRock says... #21

Definitely talking about the new Lili man!

Yeah exactly what I meant about that sideboard package, it might be strong enough for it to occupy 5 slots. Highly depends of the meta though.

P.S. Terrarion doesnt ramp! Merely fixes. Pretty mediocre.

July 10, 2016 12:56 a.m.

EastsideRock says... #22

ArmyJM07 DarkAngel367

Been grinding games and adjusting my list, you guys oughta try this out!! It detroys Spirits, good matchup against G/W/x and Esper. I still need to jam more games against ramp though.

FUN FUN FUN!!! :D

July 11, 2016 8:31 p.m. Edited.

kickerv says... #23

Really like your deck. Love what you have done to it. I am fellow grixis player as well. But I play grixis delver in modern. Thinking of playing grixis over in standard. I pulled a nahiri's wrath along with a liliana, this pairing is crazy bonkers. This pairing is what is making me come to grixis in standard. Narhir's wrath is a great way to get rid of big pesky creatures (one time I did 9 damage to 3 big flipped werewolf eldrazi's and an Arlin kord. Then i came in with my army of zombies and killed them. Just wanted to let you know I really love your deck, +1 for sure, and wanted to tell you from furst hand experience how great Nahiri wrath and the Liliana is. Both together are amazing.

July 18, 2016 4:17 p.m.

EastsideRock says... #24

kickerv Hey thank you much man! I got so excited with Nahiri's Wrath, started by testing with 2 copies, then 1, now I don't run any unfortunately. The reason being is that since our card draw really suck, there us too much variance with it and I was conceding too much card advantage, even if less fun, Languish and Radiant Flames were better plays 9 plays outta 10. Don't get me wrong though I'd love to come back to it, hopefully when Kaladesh comes out!! Seems like you been having fun with it, awesome!

I'm also a Modern Grixis player! :D I use to be all Delver, but I have switched to harder control. I don't think I'll ever go back. I'm a control player at heart and leaning too much on Delver flipping gave me anxiety issues haha!...Here's my list: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kiss-my-grix/

Cheers!

July 19, 2016 9:02 p.m.

DarkAngel367 says... #25

I'm loving the look of this deck already, do you think running an Emrakul main would be fine?

July 22, 2016 9:13 a.m.

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