EastsideRock says... #2
Thx buddy, I did have Thoughtseize in the MB and then in SB at the beginning but it turns out that even though I'm kind of dying to include it, I've been doing better with removal. It seemed that when my opponent top-decked a threat and immediately played it, it made thoughtseize looked bad and I just wished I had removal. I also hate thoughtseize in the late game when all I want to top-deck is a hasty dragon to close out the game.
Hmmm really tough decision, I might reconsider testing again with it though. Thx for the suggestion!
May 19, 2015 9:19 a.m. Edited.
DonkeyPunch says... #3
I believe you should run a set of Foul-Tongue Invocation or at least add a third. 4 life is worth everthing in your deck against late game midrange deck who try to beat you early as possible. They run out of gas and start topdecking and you are picking off their creatures and setting up for your dragons.
May 19, 2015 10:20 a.m.
EastsideRock says... #4
Foul-Tongue indeed really is one of the best cards in this deck, and I end up boarding-in the 2 extra copies like 75% of time so there really is an argument that I should MB the playset. I will pay more attention to that, there is a good chance that I do! The only matchups I can think of which I don't run more than 2 copies are certain aggro/tokens in which the sweeps and other spot removal are more efficient.
Good suggestion! Thx!
May 19, 2015 10:35 a.m.
doctorsmegma says... #5
I think Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver would providea lot of benefit in comparison to esper and u/b because of Kolaghan
May 23, 2015 1:58 p.m.
EastsideRock says... #6
Been pondering of trying Ashiok, but not sure what I would board out at this point! Since I'm typically running more creatures than other U/B or Esper decks, I think Ashiok would be less good in here, but obviously I could be wrong, it IS a fantastic card. Thx for suggestion!
May 23, 2015 2:43 p.m.
doctorsmegma says... #7
Ashiok is unreal good. More importantly than ashiok, Kolaghan's Command brings back your dragons if you dont have the land available and the card is ridiculously good. Especially when you got Scorn and no dragon in hand
May 23, 2015 3:15 p.m.
I'd cut a dig for another Foul-Tongue Invocation. It's just so insanely good, as it gives an incremental boost as a 2-for-1.
Also, the biggest reason for Bile Blight is usually tokens, so I'd definitely cut both extras in the SB for 2x Virulent Plague.
May 24, 2015 11:46 p.m. Edited.
EastsideRock says... #11
DonkeyPunch and Scorprix, I think you guys are right in that I should have an extra Foul-Tongue in the MB. Still pondering on what's the best card to cut though.
As for the Virulent Plague, it is a valid suggestion, but I'm not sure if I'd cut the two blights, they are excellent against early Fleecemanes, Mantis Riders, or sometime in combination with young Silumgar to wipe out even bigger copies of threats. But yeah, I could try to cut one of those blights for a Virulent.
Thx for suggestions!
May 25, 2015 12:38 p.m. Edited.
EastsideRock says... #12
doctorsmegma, DonkeyPunch, Scorprix, OK!! So I did it, I cut one Ultimate Price from the MB, to include the 3rd copy of Tongue, and the extra Tongue in the SB for Ashiok!
Can't wait to test that! Thx for the suggestions guys.
May 25, 2015 12:55 p.m.
EastsideRock says... #15
For those who doubted the mighty young Kolaghan I thought I'd share this out of the blue win that just happened; so opponent is on Abzan Mega at 12 life, he's got the board full of dudes. I only have a Regent. Top deck Kola, tap my 5 lands to dash him, rumble for 12, gg bro!!
May 28, 2015 9:52 a.m.
ilikepie9182 says... #17
More than a Christmas to topdeck Kholaghan like that EastSide.
June 11, 2015 10:53 a.m.
ilikepie9182 says... #18
Just after playtesting, I realized that there was no Tasigur, the Golden Fang to be seen here. Gets you raw card advantage late game and is a potential 4/5 for 3 if you fetch for 3 lands. I run an Esper Dragons deck and I had originally thought that Aggro was my worst matchup too. Abzan kept getting to me! Aggro is the reason I have 3 Bile Blight in the main board. If I'm not facing an aggro deck, I just substitute it with Anticipate and a 3rd Crux of Fate.
June 11, 2015 11:24 a.m.
RochanDragonmaster says... #19
You need one more Dragonlord Silumgar and take out the Kolaghan from fate reforged and add in some Thunderbreak regents. Would you mind checking my control decks?
June 13, 2015 5:47 a.m.
this is an amazing build i should say, i even got the idea of keranos thanks to your build. here is my own grixis dragons, been good so far but im wanting to add Kolaghan storms fury in there for either one of the icefall or ashiok, but its really hard to take out one since they both do soo much for me to turn the game to my favor and i added one dragonlord ojutai since i dont have to change my lands thanks to the crucibles and havens. would you look at it and let me know what you think ?enter link description here
June 14, 2015 12:48 p.m.
Hey check out my deck Grixis dragons idk if the above link works so just in case
June 14, 2015 12:51 p.m.
EastsideRock says... #22
ilikepie9182 After sideboard, the deck can become pretty solid against aggro, no real need for Tasigur. And I'm keeping all the Delve action for the MVP Dig Through Time!
RochanDragonmaster Lord Silumgar is pretty awful against the most of aggro/tokens/megamorph decks, hence the sole copy in the MB. The deck started out with 4 regents, but been downgraded to 2 copies since Kolaghan and Stormy are just doing more and winning more games.
Riensino I'll have a look shortly! thx!
June 14, 2015 12:57 p.m. Edited.
Thanks alot. i just had one question also, why do you run only 3 stormbreaths instead of 4? i run four and want to take out one for another kolaghan i think.
June 14, 2015 8:18 p.m.
EastsideRock says... #24
Yeah basically that's exactly what I did, the split at 3-2 between them ended up being better than 4-1. Young Kola is no joke!
Bawx1235 says... #1
If you really want it to be Grixis you need thoughtseize my friend. It will be your best friend. I do approve of this cruel control. Nice work
May 19, 2015 9:11 a.m.