Edge and Scale, Bring Forth the Victory
Standard
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murphinsky says... #2
Looks potentially quite powerful and definitely has strong synergy. Only big concern is that there may not be enough creatures. Purphoros is cute, but I don't think it quite fits the bill in this deck. I do think you are on to something, but I think there need to be some tweaks. Goblin Rabblemaster is a must have in this deck, btw. Don't know how you forgot about him. He's a warrior for starters, and he produces value on every attack.
September 12, 2014 9:36 p.m.
murphinsky says... #3
Ulcerate is also probably better than murderous cut if you're going for the aggro build of this deck. I don't know how much you are going to be able to delve in something like this. Bile blight to clear tokens must be in the 75.
September 12, 2014 9:38 p.m.
Just wanted to stop by and say I read this as "bring Hitler the victory", which made me laugh, and then made me worried for your sake lol. Glad you're not a neo-nazi :P
September 12, 2014 10:59 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #5
He, that made me giggle too Spootyone. What do you think of the deck?
You bring up a good point murphinsky that showed up in playtesting. It is true that I don't have enough to delve into Murderous Cut properly, so it will have to be removed for something else. However, because this is in enemy wedge colours, the mana base is incredibly risking, and much lesser to the ally colour base. I do not have the room to be paying the three life on Ulcerate when I already have all the painlands, fetches, Mana Confluence , Thoughtseize and Raider's Spoils . Pinging myself for about 1-3 every single turn is not a healthy situation to be in for adding even more cards that ping me as well. I'll put in Hero's Downfall instead. I can't use Bile Blight because I too have a lot of tokens and they'd all get destroyed as well. Also, both Bile Blight and Ulcerate do not target the plethora of 4+ toughness creatures that are going to be in standard, so they are not ideal.
As for Goblin Rabblemaster , I did have it in here, but I removed it because it was lackluster. A 2/2 for 3 mana wasn't my cup of tea, and it didn't have any immediate effects the moment it entered the battlefield. It required to be with Mardu Ascendancy to be really effective, and it really hindered my defensive board state. The tokens HAVE to attack, which means I can no longer chump block with them against the heavier creatures in say midrange.
I can say however that the only other 3 cmc creature that I have is being really lack-luster at the moment. Archetype of Aggression can be easily removed thanks to it also being an enchantment, however my main issue with this is that it costs in coloured mana, which is really hard to get. So I'll be replacing Archetype of Aggression for Goblin Rabblemaster , as Goblin Rabblemaster will be easier to cast, and having only 2 of them means that I'm not overly hindered by its negative defensive state.
As for Purphoros, God of the Forge , he is really powerful. You are forgetting that I also have the reanimation targets of Bloodsoaked Champion and Return to the Ranks . So those help with the damage. Goblin Rabblemaster , once he goes in, will be generating damage every turn. Mardu Charm 's token producing ability deals 2 points of damage. Launch the Fleet regularly deals 2-8 points of damage. And finally, Mardu Ascendancy deals 2-8 points of damage EVERY TURN. If that isn't really powerful, you must also remember that Purphoros, God of the Forge BUFFS my creatures!
September 12, 2014 11:55 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #6
War-Name Aspirant is probably one of the best aggressive 2-drops in Standard, and hey, is a Warrior. Butcher of the Horde is pretty dang powerful too. It may not be a Warrior, but it's still a 5/4 flier for 4 with the potential to stabilize your life, and it can eat up expendablevGoblin tokens.
September 13, 2014 12:38 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #7
Butcher is waaah better than zurgo with how much tokening you're doing. I can see where indestructible is nice and occasionally gaining trample is cool but life stabilizing, hasting, fat ass flier that can be vigilant for 4 cmc is going to beb your best bet as a curve top body.
September 13, 2014 1:08 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #8
I was using War-Name Aspirant and another 2 drop 3/2 warrior whose name escapes me at the moment GoldGhost012. War-Name Aspirant fell to a few things. A) It doesn't give anything to any of my other creatures like my tribal warriors do. B) It relies on a specific condition to be met to become as powerful as my current tribal warriors do. And C), there is actually a severe lack of strong 1 toughness drops in KTK. Sure there is tokens, but there are much better cards that can deal with tokens.
Yeah I understand that VampireArmy. I just wanted to use Zurgo Helmsmasher because he's a warrior, and a 7 power indestructible attacker the moment he comes out is really beastly. I'll do a swap though, because the flying and lifegain I think are much more beneficial.
September 13, 2014 2:15 a.m.
Ohthenoises says... #9
Something to keep in mind about Butcher of the Horde and Bloodsoaked Champion is that you can have out the champion, sac him, give an ability to the butcher, then reanimate the champion during combat. Provided that you are past the declare attackers step you can reanimate the champion as many times as you have mana to do so. This means that the two of them essentially read: 1: choose one - Butcher of the Horde gains lifelink, haste, or vigilance until end of turn.
September 13, 2014 11:42 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #10
Yeah there is that, I'll just have to rewrite the description a bit. Unfortunately, Bloodsoaked Champion does not have haste. Wah.
There is another thing to consider Ohthenoises that I noticed with Bloodsoaked Champion , is that I can swing with him every turn even if he gets killed. Because even if he is the only one that swung, I can bring him back the same turn once he gets killed. This is really useful in providing pressure on my opponent, and it also helps with Mardu Ascendancy and Purphoros, God of the Forge .
I really should get on to re-writing this description.
September 13, 2014 3:44 p.m.
Working on a Rabble Mardu deck in standard aswell i play 4 soldier of the panthion because i think protection from multicolored is really where you wanna be at after rotation plus i am a big fan of chief of the edge but not so much scale and athreos, maybe its because athreos really have dissapointed me since "Journey" but idk.but how well have chief of the scale been working out for you in testing ? otherwise sweet deck
September 13, 2014 6:01 p.m.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/warrior-tribal-bw/ This is my take on the deck. Sure you can splash for Red but I would rather be consistent and Athreos is just an absolute powerhouse.
September 13, 2014 11:02 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #13
I'm unsure as to how Soldier of the Pantheon will do in standard now. I currently have Bloodsoaked Champion and Thoughtseize as my one drops which are far more powerful. In my side I have Mardu Hateblade , which deals with creatures far more better than something with protection that doesn't get buffed nor prevent the utility of my opponents.
As for Athreos, God of Passage , I'm tempted to cut him, as Purphoros, God of the Forge has one me various games just by being there. 2-8 damage per turn with him is beastly.
September 14, 2014 12:05 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #14
I'm not "Splashing" for red Zeptideo, red is a legitimate requirement for the competitive value for this deck. 14 cards containing red, 8 of them are VITAL for this deck to function properly. Mardu Ascendancy , Mardu Charm and Butcher of the Horde are all extremely powerful. Butcher of the Horde can win board states in which I'm down 5 creatures, Mardu Ascendancy populates my field to be able to go through every single defensive stance and Mardu Charm allows for such versatility against any deck that there is no reason not to run it.
September 14, 2014 12:27 a.m.
Blizzicane says... #15
If I was not restricted by my standard spending I would have either attempted to make Mardu Warrior Tribal or Mardu Tokens or maybe even a mix of both. XP Anyways for suggestions may I recommend Tormented Hero as he is a one drop 2/1 body oh and the best part a WARRIOR! :3
I hope this will be the next big thing +1 from me! :3
September 14, 2014 12:42 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #16
Tormented Hero is really lack-luster Blizzicane. Unlike Bloodsoaked Champion , he doesn't reanimate. Which is a really important part of choosing Bloodsoaked Champion . And what exactly does mardu have in targeting that makes the heroic actually useful?
September 14, 2014 12:56 a.m.
Blizzicane says... #17
While his abilities are irrelevant for this deck he is a aggressive 2/1 body for one and also warrior in your case. But I just read you were going for aggro-midrange deck (I totally over looked the midrange part) so you only really need eight one drops as I was thinking more towards aggro. XP
Oh and by the way I was not sure if it is just my browser but in your description your cards appear to be leaning out of there image box. :S
September 14, 2014 1:45 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #18
That is a problem with the indenting code. Yeago still hasn't fixed that issue yet.
September 14, 2014 1:47 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #19
And another thing, aggro is practically nonexistent in standard at the moment. I literally say NOTHING that would make aggro or RDW or any fast paced deck actually any good. This is as fast as Standard is going to get. WotC were right in saying that Mardu was speed. Because Mardu is the fastest we will ever see.
September 14, 2014 1:49 a.m.
slovakattack says... #20
This looks really nice, Femme_Fatale! The only thing that really stands out to me as kinda jankey is the 2x Goblin Rabblemaster , and the Atheros. Imo, you should have at least 3 rabblemasters, or none at all, as you seem to be split between token gen/burn, and the Atheros/Butcher of the Horde combo.
I'd cut either the Atheros (my preference to cut, honestly. Never liked the guy) and add in a 3rd rabblemaster, and add another purphoros somehow, or rabblemaster entirely and focus on the Butcher combo.
Just imo.
September 14, 2014 1:52 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #21
Yeah I agree with you slovakattack, Athreos, God of Passage has shown itself to be weaker and weaker and weaker in every game I've played with and against. He was on the chopping block on the first few games, and now I'm just gonna replace him entirely for Purphoros, God of the Forge .
As for your Goblin Rabblemaster thing, I don't think that will hold any relevancy in the new standard. There is like, no aggro and hardly any goblins to warrant making Goblin Rabblemaster a 3 of. I already have 2 other 3 ofs that are much more important than him anyways. He is however a necessary inclusion as my 3 drop creature, and is really powerful. He also is really weak in the defensive game, so having him at two means he isn't messing with my game plan as much as he would if he was at 3, but yet still helps out enough that I'm happy to draw him and isn't a necessity so I'm not wondering where he is.
Finally ... +1? puppy eyes
September 14, 2014 2:27 a.m.
YouGotFranked says... #24
+1 for warriors
Have you considered Mardu Hordechief? (Not yet in the database sadly.) He's a 2/3 warrior for (2)(w) and have a Raid ability of putting a 1/1 warrior token into play when he etb. That's 2 warriors for 3 mana and will give lots of value to your chiefs.
I made a warrior deck too although i'm ditching Chief of the Scale in favor of a faster aggro. Aye-aye Chief!! if you're interested.
September 14, 2014 3:19 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #25
Mardu Hordechief . Discussion for it is on my profile and it is in my "cards I will not use" list.
Femme_Fatale says... #1
DAMMIT
Oh well. It is still powerful~
September 12, 2014 8:42 p.m.