Edge and Scale, Bring Forth the Victory
Standard
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DaigarStrasis says... #2
I made this a couple days ago, but no +1s and no comments. why? Is there like a feature where I have to pay money to get people to see my decks more? I only get one deckcycle per day.
September 14, 2014 10:42 a.m.
Viral_Assassin says... #3
Hello! Huge fan of R/W/B decks and the such. Have not seen the suggestion of Iroas, God of Victory yet so I'd like to make it. I'd replace Purphoros, God of the Forge with him personally but he does have great synergy with the amount of creatures entering. With Iroas you'd be able to swing and have some blockers (minus Bloodsoaked Champion ) while also having a wide spread Madcap Skills effect. Admittedly he would probably never become a creature. Great looking deck though. Maybe you could hit me up with some suggestions on what's going to be my new Standard R/B/W Dawnbreaker's Assault!? Not sure it's direction at the moment, anything is up for discussion.
September 14, 2014 11:21 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #4
There are numerous different reasons why someone would get more upvotes than someone else if their decks were both the same DaigarStrasis.
- Number one: Deck Title. If you notice, all of my decks have a unique title. A unique title attracts people to a deck the same way a hook attracts people to a book.
- Number two: Best Description. A shitty deck can go really far if you have an excellent description for it. Take Solomon's decks for example. Many of his decks have VERY questionable choices (legacy rdw, looking at you), however he gets really good upvotes because of his superior description.
- Number three: Know Your Direction. There are three different directions the T/O community likes, in this order. 1) Joke decks. They currently hold all the top deck ratings here on T/O. 2) Unique decks. My Kor Legions deck is so high because it hasn't been seen before. 3) Competitive decks. Something like this, which I knew immediately to go competitive with, garners lots of attention as a well made deck. Competitiveness also incorporates that some users like to playtest decks to see if they actually work. If they do, then they upvote.
- Number four: Advertise. Simply asking for help in the forums will frequently get attention to your deck.
- Number five: Upgraded User. Upgraded users have fancy usernames, and they are noticed more in the community than the nonupgraded ones. There is a sort of sense that all nonupgraded users get clumped together in to one identity, and it isn't until you upgrade that people will recognize your opinion and talents. Upgraded users also get three deckcycles per day.
- Number six: Feature Tokens. This is where you have to spend money. Buying feature tokens will allow you to do a feature queue of a deck, which is advertising the deck at the top of the website. This is where you'll get most of your attention.
- Number seven: Catchy Slogan. If you notice, the first line of each of my decks hold a catchy slogan. This is sort of like the hook for bringing people in. The title attracts people's attention, the slogan is for hooking people in and making them stay. This slogan is also adjusted to fit the amount of text that is visible when you deck-cycle. People like perfection.
- Number eight: Know the Times. You must know exactly when to deckcycle or feature queue. This comes with experience, but know that most people finish school at 3PM, and work usually ends at 5PM.
That is how I do it, and it is all fairly common sense. Hope it helps~
September 14, 2014 11:53 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #5
Iroas, God of Victory doesn't win me games fast enough Viral_Assassin. I removed Athreos, God of Passage for that reason. I can't really attack and then block with it as it still leaves me wide open for assault, and can't guarantee me a victory. If I needed to be able to swing and block, I've got Brave the Sands in the side for that.
September 14, 2014 12:01 p.m.
Viral_Assassin says... #6
I am not sure why now I had said you'd be able to block after his attacks. You are right, he is a bit slow and by himself doesn't win games. Even just discussing it here has helped with my deck thanks!
September 14, 2014 12:10 p.m.
+1 I love mardu and can only hope a deck like this ends up tier 1. Would you ever consider Sorin, Solemn Visitor ? I'm not certain how relevant he will be in standard, but the pump and life link could be good.
September 14, 2014 1:17 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #8
@ EKGwins: Butcher of the Horde > Sorin, Solemn Visitor . Reasons? Butcher has evasion, can attack the moment he comes out, gains me life and can block and swing every turn. He puts the opponent on a 3 turn clock and generally means I win the game the moment he comes out. Sorin doesn't win games, as his token producer is a -2.
September 14, 2014 1:50 p.m.
Haha sorry didn't mean to stop by and leave so quickly before. I do really like the deck! I feel like some people are so caught up in the hype of other color combos that they fail to see just how powerful EVERY clan will be. I think this is a good example of a dangerous Mardu deck to face. Even better is the use of the Warrior tribal, which I love. (I have a thing for unique brews, in case you haven't noticed).
I haven't had the chance to test at all with the deck but based on CMCs and card type I'd say going down to 2 Raider's Spoils in place of either a third Goblin Rabblemaster or Butcher of the Horde feels right to me. Thoughts?
Also, if you wouldn't mind doing so..wanna see my new brew? I've been working on a Temur deck and took a cool turn with it near the end that has really upped its strength. I'd love an opinion. Temur Control
+1 given, of course!
September 14, 2014 1:56 p.m.
Femme_Fatale I understand that Butcher of the Horde is very valuable, I think Sorin would compete more against Raider's Spoils , but the card draw might be too good.
September 14, 2014 2:06 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #11
Hmm, you are quite right about that swap there Spootyone. I'll do a swap now.
Also, I'm buying this deck for $220 ... good price?
September 14, 2014 2:16 p.m.
Considering the average price according to TO is over 300? I'd say absolutely. That's what's great about building off the wall brews! You can to use the random cheap cards no one is looking at haha.
September 14, 2014 2:20 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #13
Uh, ignore that price Spootyone. That's the legacy version of Bloodstained Mire . The REAL price of it is actually $13. So chop about $50. Huh. Still in the ranks of $30!
September 14, 2014 2:30 p.m.
Ah. Not that it's a huge deal, but it would be awesome if that could be adjusted lol. That's still good though! And since you plan on going IRL competitive with the build I encourage it :) I wish I could go to tournaments lol. We need to have a TO team. We can wear our ornithopter shirts and become famous. I'll put my millions of dollars of MTG money into a yacht that can double as a game store.
September 14, 2014 2:34 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #15
I'll be sure to wear our signature t-shirt. I really like how it looks and how soft it is, then again, what doesn't look good on boobs?
September 14, 2014 2:36 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #17
Not that big of a deal tedyo. Anger of the Gods doesn't kill Purphoros, God of the Forge nor Butcher of the Horde . I have Chief of the Scale to help get my non-token creatures above 4 toughness to help evade it, and it doesn't get rid of Mardu Ascendancy , which is my main token producer. Beyond that I do have 6 instances of discard, so I can use them heavily if I suspect wraths of any kind.
September 14, 2014 4:57 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #18
One thing. You mention that you don't want to add more rabblemasters and I'm kind of questioning your logic on that.
Before I start any comments have you seen the Rabble Red deck that's gained a ton of popularity lately?
September 14, 2014 5:14 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #19
On the Anger of the Gods topic: Mardu Ascendancy is nearly a direct counter to it. Also, if you sacrifice Bloodsoaked Champion before the Anger resolves he won't exile.
September 14, 2014 5:17 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #20
I just looked at it now and I want to make a point, that deck will be rotating out. Most of that deck is built on return to ravnica cards, and I don't think it will be supported enough in theros KTK. In examining Goblin Rabblemaster through playtests, rabble just doesn't provide as much impact as others believe it should. No haste or first strike means that it is really easily blocked and killed even with Chief of the Scale . While the meta isn't defined for ktk and the eventual creature base may mean it is more of an include, I just don't see why I should have it as a 3 of when so many of my cards are much more better.
September 14, 2014 5:29 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #21
I CAN say however, that the pure aggro version of this deck I'm building will include rabble at three. I'm unsure of which I like more.
September 14, 2014 5:50 p.m.
i think i would cut one Mardu Ascendancy and at a thoughtseize i am not gonna force you to play Soldier of the Pantheon but the lifegain can be relevant and will be more relevant after rotation because you will take a lot of damage from your lands when trying to be on curve with an aggresive deck but its up to you if you think the lifegain from Butcher of the Horde is enough for the deck
In General i would take out the Raider's Spoils entirely maybe consider some more removal instead like Stoke the Flames which will work really well with all the tokens
September 14, 2014 5:54 p.m.
Oh and i totally forgot Utter End for the more midrange kind of strategy
September 14, 2014 5:59 p.m.
DaigarStrasis says... #24
Obelisk of Urd ? name warrior obviously, you are getting enough creatures out to convoke it
September 14, 2014 6:15 p.m.
DaigarStrasis says... #25
Also in regards to your comment about aggro being or will be non-existent in standard, you are dead wrong. Mono Red isn't losing enough creatures and there are others that will fill the void of what is rotating out, and mono black aggro didn't really lose anything, but gained several potential staples in the archetype.
Femme_Fatale says... #1
Though I forgot to say thank you for the+1 ~
September 14, 2014 3:22 a.m.