That's kind of what I figured, to be honest. I feel like cards like Ethersworn Canonist and Rest in Peace could be okay.
My meta is mostly Hidetsugu and Daretti and Riku. =(
March 23, 2015 10:12 a.m.
Well, regardless of Skyfolk feeling the need to wave his cock around and defend the exclusion of Flagstones, Containment Priest is a great inclusion. It really depends on your play group, but it will shut down many combos and recursion attempts. It's main attractiveness comes from its instant speed and nice low mana cost. I would highly recommend giving it a slot and some playtesting time when you get the chance. Let me know how it goes!
March 23, 2015 10:32 a.m.
Didn't see you already added it to the maybe board. Sorry.
March 23, 2015 10:33 a.m.
The new tuck rule actually makes any deck that uses its commander as the main wincon stronger against white, blue and red. Personally I hate it.
March 24, 2015 10:43 a.m.
NensouHiebara says... #8
The new tuck rule is beneficial for Voltron. Now there's no efficient solution to stopping Voltron commanders beyond making them too expensive from Commander Tax.
@SFCD
Oblation is still a removal spell for any nonland permanent type. The new tuck rule does significantly weaken it, but it's still solid.
March 25, 2015 9:59 a.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #9
Why don't you want Flagstones of Trokair?? Just replace a plains with it, it's strictly better...
March 26, 2015 2:53 p.m.
NensouHiebara says... #10
Flagstones of Trokair is not strictly better than a Plains.
- Can Eternal Dragon or Knight of the White Orchid tutor for it? No.
- Does it count towards Emeria, The Sky Ruin? No.
- Can I run multiples of it? No.
I'm not wasting valuable deck space for a single instance of a superfluous effect.
March 26, 2015 4:51 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #11
NensouHiebara You have plenty of plains to search for, that's not a problem. You don't need to (and can't) run multiples of it because this is EDH. And it offers a HUGE advantage vs Armageddon type stuff. I mean, if that happens, you start with one extra land than your opponent(s) AND it's your turn meaning you're basically a few turns ahead of your opponent(s). It has a huge value that I don't think you credit it for.
March 26, 2015 4:59 p.m.
NensouHiebara says... #12
There are better cards I'd rather use if mass land destruction becomes a problem in my meta.
March 26, 2015 5:07 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #13
If it's your meta, fine, no problem. But in "competitive" EDH, Flagstones is just a more solid card.
March 26, 2015 5:09 p.m.
You're literally repeating the exact same things multiple people have said over and over again, what makes you think you're adding anything new to the discussion?
March 26, 2015 5:23 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #15
Skyfolk No need to criticize or get unnerved, sometimes telling someone the same thing multiple times convinces them. Also the fact that multiple people say it just proves the point that it should indeed be part of this deck. Let's stop this conversation though, there is nothing else to be said.
March 26, 2015 5:29 p.m.
That's a pretty stupid mindset to have, pressure someone into changing their opinion by repeating the same things over and over? Why result to such rude tactics just because someone disagrees with you?
March 26, 2015 5:32 p.m.
NensouHiebara says... #17
The reason multiple people suggested Flagstones of Trokair is because it's a land that taps for 
and this is a Mono- deck.
I don't want Flagstones of Trokair to be a part of my deck because it's ability isn't useful to me.
March 26, 2015 5:35 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #18
Skyfolk I'm sorry, but how is that rude? I would consider YOUR response to be much ruder than what I was trying to formulate. I'm not trying to put pressure on anyone, I'm simply explaining my point of view and adding my voice to the people who think that this is a necessary change to make this deck better. Once again, I do not want to have an argument, so let's stop this discussion here.
March 26, 2015 5:38 p.m.
Poptartz95 says... #20
Flagstones of Trokair he is saying it isnt useful cause it isnt useful. Coming from a player who runs mass land destruction in 2 decks, I can assure you that card wouldnt do much good, he would be better off adding Crucible of Worlds, cause against a mass land destruction deck well there going to have more then one mass land wipe, hence why Flagstones of Trokair wouldnt be very good, and why Crucible of Worlds would be better. Also there isnt a lot of mass land destruction usually in EDH decks, ya Armageddon is quite popular after the recent FTV, thats one card of 100, even from a competitive point, Crucible of Worlds would ultimately be better then Flagstones of Trokair however I just drool over this deck so lord god please dont make any changes D:
March 28, 2015 8:32 p.m.
NensouHiebara- I think you should move the part about not suggesting Flagstones of Trokair to the top of the description and bold it so people see. I'm just trying read discussion and its nothing but aggressive comments when I'd like to be reading constructive criticism. Could you please do an update with a comment sweep?
Everyone else- he's said no to the inclusion of the flagstone, end of story. If you can't stand to have someone put down your suggestion, don't suggest stuff and stop trying to force it.
March 29, 2015 9:37 a.m.
This new update is really compelling. It seems pretty budget friendly too.
10/10 would view again.
April 1, 2015 8:44 a.m.
There's no joke here at all. I can confirm this is how he chose to change the deck from here on.
April 1, 2015 9:16 a.m.
omg u made it more funny man top lolz 10/10 would deck again
NensouHiebara says... #1
@Ilnez
Horrible.
My deck wasn't build for a meta with fast combo decks. It would require several pieces of combo hate just to potentially survive.
Your best options are to either build a control deck specifically designed to combat the fast combo decks or find new players so you can play the decks you enjoy.
March 23, 2015 10:09 a.m.