Staff of Domination

Karn Liberated

This isn't Cruel Control.

OpenFire Guess it really doesn't fit that tag. Fix'd. Cheers.

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Have you tried the cmc 1 mana rocks GR Tron runs? Your mana seems more or less shaky to me, seeing as you run only 10 Black Sources and your deck includes Profane Command, Damnation and Grave Titan, which can be very awkward to cast with your current manabase. They would also help you dig for the Tron lands. Signets or another Urborg could also help with casting them - Urborg being Legendardy shouldn't come up often enough to overshadow the great effect it has on your mana in general.

What exactly is Suffer the Past for? If you just want grave hate I would just go for the full four Leylines. They do the job far more reliably and in general are best when run as a 4-of.

Tron decks in general have a great matchup against midrange decks anyway and struggle against the more aggressive or synergistic (ie aggro and combo) decks so your removal should really be aimed at dealing with aggro.

At the moment you're running removal spells (Profane Command and Go for the Throat) that are rather bad against perhaps the most prominent aggro deck of the format (Affinity). I would personally switch out the Go for the Throats for Doom Blades and include more sweepers. Drown in Sorrow would be another spell with BB in its casting cost which will be very difficult to cast with your current manabase, but if you can make it work it'll definitely improve your matchup against Affinity and Delver.

Some aspects of the deck seem very clunky to me but I definitely like the idea and can see it being viable. A +1 from me.

+1 on the deck. Like it. I've been personally messing around with a R/G variant in order toramp and do board wipes via damage. That, and Damnation is a 40 dollar plus card.

All that said, I'm curious to see how your matchups have been against mono blue controland other control-variant decks sporting black for Thoughtseize/Inquisition/etc.A natural concern as a fellow tron player is getting stuff countered, but, such is life.

I like how you incorporated Worst Fears into the deck at the 8 slot. 8 is reasonable for adeck type like this, and with that in mind, I'm curious to know your thoughts on Ugin nabbing a sideboard slot, post FRF release.

Concurrently, there's another thing that also ties into the "taking turns" nature of Worst Fearsthat I didn't see, that might deserve some consideration:

Phyrexia's Core + Prototype Portal + Ugin's Nexus

Phyrexia's Core can be subbed out for any artifact sac outlet, but the idea is that for 10 colorless anda tap of the land, you can start an infinite turn loop in colorless. (It's also 6 colorless and a tap of the land to keep the loop going.)

Thx for the input guys! After doing some testing I'm not far off from the how you both seem to feel.

Going to alter the mana base, look at 1cmc mana rocks, & tweakin my control suite.

Suffer the past is there for grave hate, yes. Being able to TRON into suffer the past before someone delves is fun. Puts a fun spread in, but idk if it's worth the space.

Yay Tron decks.

Leyline of the Void is better grave hate in general, though. If a Delver deck is on the play, they can quite easily cast Treasure Cruise before you have the chance to have Tron + a Black source at the ready. I know using thematically fitting cards (such as mana-heavy graveyard hate card in a Tron deck) is appealing, but it is a common pitfall in deckbuilding. Leylines also function the better the more you have them. Then again, if it works better for you than Leyline then sure, keep doing what works.

simondiamond2012 + 326 Thanks for the input. Posted up is my new build im crafting. still looking into some other mana rocks. This build feel solid. Testing this weekend will let me know whats up.

Please leave any & all commentary!

may I suggest you put Cabal Coffers since you already play Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth for the extra ramp because why use a urza land for black when you can use it for 5 black? :) I also liked Beseech the Queen as it helps for early game land or removal tutor or late game bomb tutor which is exactly what the deck needs. for these cards I would ditch Solemn Simulacrum because the basic land search is not the best value he can give you (yes he is handy but you can't play him sooner than turn 3 and if you can play him in turn 3 you can as easily play a Wurmcoil Engine or Karn Liberated which is much better.

@hirfathra: Cabal Coffers is not modern legal. If it were, you'd see mono black life drain decks running around crazy.

Now if they ever do reprint it, I would be damn surprised.

@ hirfathra If only I could use it.

@simondiamond2012 Ive been considering going B/g for some acceleration. I'm running into a wall in mono black. Even going so far as to try out Heartless Summoning Thoughts on B/g? Abrupt Decay? Sylvan Scrying? Primeval Titan?

@currentuser: A B/G mold for tron hasn't been done before to the best of my knowledge. My Concern, depending on how you set up your mana base, would be trying to get the double green for Purple Twizzlers. (Primeval Titan)

Theoretically, it could work, but you'd still have to resort to black for sweepers since there's nothing in green except for flyers. In black, you could go Damnation and Crux of Fate to kill creatures, which would be the biggest source of concern for a Tron deck. The upswing, kind of how you'd mentioned earlier, is that you'd have access to Abrupt Decay, Ancient Stirrings, Sylvan Scrying, and Beast Within.

I'd say draft up a list, and try it online on untap.in, or wherever you go for online MTG. The mono black build that I have is around 65/35 to 60/40, on average, which for a Tron deck, ain't bad at all.

Here's the mono black build on TappedOut:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ugins-rejection/

simondiamond2012 I'll post my changes for B/g tron once I have it together. Just got some of the trades I needed for the build.

simondiamond2012, 326, New B/G variant. Thoughts?

Sad to drop the mono black, but green added too much speed to the equation. Not to mention Abrupt Decay

What exactly are the sideboard cards for? Profane Command, Go for the Throat, Abrupt Decay and Dismember are generally cards that fit broad enough roles to be run in the mainboard.

Profane Command seems like a cut - it can be impressive when you have absolutely humongous amounts of mana but other than that, I really don't think it's what the deck wants, especially with the double black in the mana cost.

I would like to see some Chromatic Stars or Chromatic Spheres. Your mana seems very sketchy, and they would definitely help with that. They also help to dig deeper into your deck and find whatever it is that you might be needing.

Are you sure Woodland Cemetery is better than Overgrown Tomb? If you played Overgrown Tombs, you could easily also switch out some swamps for copies of Verdant Catacombs, which would in turn improve your mana by quite a bit.

Abrupt Decay definitely seems good enough to be mainboarded.

326 I actually don't disagree with any of your points. With Green being so fresh my MB is focused on speed for G1. With my SB being the control/Protection suite. I have no doubt the SB will become more & more integrated as I test/play.

After play testing here on tappedout.. I am not really too convinced with Woodland cemetery. Thats going to be an EASY swap once home. I think I was counting too heavily on already having a swamp or Urborg.

Thanks for positive feed back as always mate. Cheers!

-4Woodland Cemetery
+4 Overgrown Tomb

currentuser

I would also suggest Fellwar Stone and/or Mind Stone, as they areboth Modern format legal. This helps out with early game mana issues, andMind Stone can also draw you a card in case it's not necessary late game.

I've used it in my mono black version of tron, with high levels of success.

also currentuser:

I would suggest dropping Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and add in Kozilek, Butcher of Truth instead. Not only does Kozie draw cards off the cast trigger alone (he doesn't have to resolve, he just has to be hard-casted), he's also cheaper to put out there, by roughly 33%. Even better, if he gets countered, as long as he hits your graveyard, you get a graveyard reshuffle.

I would take out the Overgrown Tombs for Llanowar Wastes to preserve life, and the Kozilek, Butcher of Truth for a Spellskite to improve your matchup against Burn and Twin. Also this deck needs Chromatic Sphere badly, and probably 1-2 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon as well.

simondiamond2012+326+vishnarg Critique?

Hey, I suggest perhaps trying this land base. My logic is that the presence of Urborg means that you can more easily set up your land presence. Because you're gonna be pushing with Stirrings and Scrying, having Forests is more important that Swamp:

1x Eye of Ugin

2x Forest

1x Swamp

1x Ghost Quarter

1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

4x Llanowar Wastes

4x Urza's Mine

4x Urza's Power Plant

4x Urza's Tower

I am not a fan of not having full access to Scryings. While play testing this against my R/G tron I found that hitting Scrying earlier helped basically your whole game-plan, and so. This is what I suggest for your Sorceries.

Personally I think the extra board wipe will benefit you more than the ability to control a turn. Mindslaver is the superior turn-stealing package in tron.

But if you like it you can always just do 2/2. I just HIGHLY recommend playing a playset of stirrings.

4x Ancient Stirrings

4x Sylvan Scrying

3x Damnation

1x Worst Fears

Creatures are perfect btw.

4x Wurmcoil Engine
1x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

Instants are useful, and Abrupt Decay is a good two-of.

3x Dismember in the Sideboard is cool.

2x Abrupt Decay

1x Maelstrom Pulse

And of course, your perfect planes walker lineup.

3x Karn Liberated

2x Ugin, the Spirit Dragon

Playsets of the eggs, map and a single batter skull is excellent btw.

I upvoted btw ;)

@ OikeaHetki Thanks for the +1 & the critique. I had planned on altering the land my own self. Man if I had another Damnation I'd be running it. Good grief I cannot get enough of it! the Mindslaver is going to have to be a tech investment(i own 0 copies) for the moment Worst Fears will have to keep me solid.
Thanks for the critique! when I make updates I may tag you in commentary for further critique!