SHADOWBLADE99 says... #2
A personal favorite of mine is Elemental Mastery for the elemental theme
March 24, 2013 9:10 p.m.
if your going to run that many elementals Coat of Arms , and Door of Destinies
March 27, 2013 3:12 p.m.
PenitentKnight says... #4
Maybe Ashling the Pilgrim and Ashling, the Extinguisher ? Malignus might be fun. Otherwise, Obsidian Fireheart , Roil Elemental , and Hound of Griselbrand might be ones to consider.
March 30, 2013 12:44 p.m.
Patriarch's Bidding and Descendants' Path would help push the elemental tribal theme to new levels. I've been looking for a deck that could play both, and I think this could be the one! +1
March 30, 2013 7:52 p.m.
Cobthecobbler says... #6
I feel that in this deck, for it to work, you need Elementals that cost 6 or more for your generals ability to be abused.
You can use Buried Alive to get cards like Floodchaser , Spitebellows , Supreme Exemplar , and Walker of the Grove into your graveyard for your general to reanimate. More cards for some graveyard love are Anger , Wonder , and Brawn as those can be massive support cards for you.
All of these cards I suggest you putting in the deck. Your general's ability was made to cheat out elementals and you should abuse that, in my opinion.
March 31, 2013 12:52 p.m.
Cobthecobbler says... #7
You can also use Mystical Tutor to search for a Triumph of the Hordes , give your creatures infect and swing for the game. It's a dirty tactic, but winning is winning, eh?
March 31, 2013 12:55 p.m.
Especially after just pulling out potentially some of the biggest guys in my deck... I like it Cobthecobbler, I like it
March 31, 2013 12:58 p.m.
Please check my deck eleMENTAL amounts of Synnergy to help with some overpowered creature spells to whack in this deck, I'm thinking Molimo, Maro-Sorcerer or Rubblehulk or Silverglade Elemental . Sorcery wise Wargate is exceptional, search for any land for 3 mana or serach for bigger for more.
Mana leak is pointless in EDH yes you can stop someone "going off" but counters in casual are simply annoying, EDH is for fun, seeing what crazy things can be done...not what awesome things can you stop.
Land wise I feel you want primal beyond, and instead of murder I ensure that Crib Swap is better :D as it has changeling it counts as an elemental spell when in graveyard. It is also easier to cast and better (exile not destroy)
I'm going to have to put Burgeoning in my deck though! that card looks insane!
March 31, 2013 4:32 p.m.
Burgeoning in combination with Azusa, Lost but Seeking will empty you're hand of land in all of 2 turns. I think the next thing I could use more of is draw power. I have some but its hit or miss.
March 31, 2013 10:12 p.m.
Okay so try Garruk, Primal Hunter and Staff of Nin . Have you seen Jarad's Orders ? That is quite strong in such decks as this. And then of course Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora those two are MENTAL oh and remember to look into the changeling creatures, they are elemental in graveyard and often overpowered hehe. Try the changling titan and Taurean Mauler
April 1, 2013 11:31 a.m.
I don't know how I missed Cavern of Souls, that seems painfully obvious now lol.
April 14, 2013 12:56 p.m.
Okay, so first off, cards that I don't think work well or are just not powerful enough: Air Elemental , Hellfire Mongrel (too much draw power in EDH for this ability to be efficient), Plasma Elemental , Skullmulcher (not enough creatures that you would want to sacrifice), Smog Elemental (this would be a sideboard card, seeing how it's very conditional), and Valakut Fireboar . I would also consider taking out your Shrine Enchantments, because they're only effective if you can get out 4 or 5, and by that time in the game, you could have more powerful effects.
Suggestions for cards to put in: Flamekin Harbinger (Elemental tutoring? Heck yeah), Multani, Maro-Sorcerer (Great in EDH because people love having huge hand sizes), Mulldrifter (More draw power), Privileged Position , Liege of the Tangle , and Dawn Elemental .
Also be on the lookout for Voice of Resurgence when it comes out in Dragon's Maze next month, because that will be a fun card to run in this EDH.
April 14, 2013 3:16 p.m.
Oops, forgot to suggest Chameleon Colossus . Easy way to pump dead mana, and protection from black.
April 14, 2013 3:20 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #18
Cards I would cut:
- Air Elemental - Limited and underwhelming.
- Brighthearth Banneret - Unnecessary and underwhelming.
- Celestial Force - Expensive and underwhelming.
- Dread - Works well in theory, but tends to be clunky in use.
- Ageless Entity - Limited.
- Forgotten Ancient - Limited.
- Foundry Champion - Limited and expensive.
- Fusion Elemental - Underwhelming.
- Gaea's Revenge - Limited, only good as a beater.
- Hellfire Mongrel - Limited and underwhelming.
- Manaforge Cinder - Only filters, unnecessary.
- Obsidian Fireheart - Heavily saturated, limited, underwhelming.
- Plasma Elemental - Expensive, underwhelming.
- Rockslide Elemental - Limited, underwhelming.
- Smog Elemental - Unnecessary, expensive.
- Sparkspitter - Unnecessary.
- Supreme Exemplar - Only good as a beater.
- Tar Fiend - Limited.
- Tyrant of Discord - Underwhelming.
- Valakut Fireboar - Underwhelming.
- Walker of the Grove - Underwhelming.
- Caravan Vigil - It's better to have a ramp spell that will always be a ramp spell.
- Coat of Arms - Dangerous to use with a slow, nontoken tribe.
- Door of Destinies - Clunky, unnecessary.
- Descendants' Path - Clunky, can potentially screw you.
- Blind Obedience - Seems unnecessary.
- Ashling, the Extinguisher - Seems unnecessary and conditional.
I'm not really sure the Shrines are worth including.
Cards I would consider adding:
- Command Tower
- Reflecting Pool .
- Explosive Vegetation - Ramp.
- Harrow - Ramp.
- Nature's Lore - Ramp, finds shocks.
- Skyshroud Claim - Ramp, finds shocks.
- Sol Ring - Ramp.
- Gilded Lotus - Ramp, color fixing.
- Flamekin Harbinger - Tutor power on an Elemental.
- Survival of the Fittest - A bit expensive, but works very well with your general.
- Fauna Shaman - Works well with your general.
- Mulldrifter - Draw power on an Elemental.
- Demonic Tutor - Tutor power.
- Diabolic Tutor - Tutor power.
- Consecrated Sphinx - Draw power.
- Rhystic Study - Draw power.
- Phyrexian Arena - Draw power.
- Terminate - Removal.
- Swords to Plowshares - Removal.
- Path to Exile - Removal.
May 31, 2013 9:48 p.m.
With these elementals, why not add the blue Elemental Master, Master of Waves ? I have an idea for a Standard Elemental deck, if I can ever get my hands on 4 of those buggers...
February 26, 2014 4:25 p.m.
Epochalyptik you have suggested removing cards that are fun with staples...I think that many of your suggestions are good but Supreme Exemplar is MUCH more than just a beater (and a 10/10 beater can get there!) The Obsidian Fireheart is an incredible card that will just get there. Tyrant of discord I feel also gets there. The artifact mana you suggest is WHOLLY irrelevant as this is a 5 colour deck, however the Skyshroud Claim and Explosive Vegetation are AWESOME!
Though the deck seems to have changed a little!
With elementals like mulldrifter and Slithermuse there is no need for Rhystic Study as the card is boring a stupid staple.
February 26, 2014 6:28 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #21
No offense, but your perspective seems skewed. Rhystic Study is a very powerful card in EDH. Suggesting that it not be included because it's "boring" or "a stupid staple" is not really helpful from a deck improvement standpoint.
Also, cards like Obsidian Fireheart are just clunky and ineffective. If a 4/4 with a supremely underwhelming recurring burn effect gets there in your games, you probably don't even need to improve the deck.
February 26, 2014 7:12 p.m.
Master of Waves I'm torn about. I'd like to think he'd be fantastic, but if Voice of Resurgence taught me anything good in standard does not mean good in EDH
February 27, 2014 9:21 a.m.
Is this a crazy idea? Master of Waves ? +1, didn't know of that commander! Now I want to make a deck like this!
crabopolis says... #1
i am a big fan of Celestial Force, Purity for white. a cheap way to get 5 colors is the ability to convert into the missing colors with things like Prophetic Prism; or non-land mana producers like Alloy Myr, Birds of Paradise, Joiner Adept these also give you mana ramp to speed up your game. Instead of Smolder Initiate i like the extort ability, plus Blind Obedience gives your opponents the into play tapped effect. keeping with the elemental theme from your commander Deepfire Elemental is nice.
March 13, 2013 9:54 p.m.