DankMagicianD: Ironically, I did end up adding Rielle to this list XD She's just so much value!

33 lands is rather low for an EDH deck, however your mana curve is also pretty low. Have you ever had problems with it? Also, Restore Balance is nearly useless in your hand. How consistently can you discard it to cast off of Vadrok? Draw/discard effects are also great with Rielle, as you said. Have you considered adding Tormenting Voice?

DankMagicianD: My curve is low enough that it's survivable -- though I'd probably be happier at 34 (that's my go-to number in most EDH decks). Restore Balance is a new addition, so I'm not sure yet... but in nearly every game, I have a way to get it out of my hand and into GY. I'm considering adding more looting effects, but my next two go-tos would be Looter il-Kor and Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  ^Flip before Tormenting Voice. Possibly over Thrill of Possibility, too -- Looter gives me a very evasive creature to mutate onto, and JVP is just crazy good in general.

I really like how you built him. well done as always. I would consider adding in Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  ^Flip - so much value. another addition I may consider if you are going for a tron subtheme would be Blackblade Reforged or Umezawa's Jitte, possibly over Forebear's Blade.

Well done. I glanced by him as the weakest of the 5, but I may have to reconsider, especially in commander. Cheers

Whirlwind_2100: I originally built this for the cool art and typing, but the more I play this the more I realize that it's actually a menace XD

The reason I went for Forebear's Blade is because the trample and vigilance synergize well with my commander's high power (usually, depending on what it's mutated onto) and evasion. Plus, because of the way Mutate works, I WILL get the death trigger despite the meerged creature being my commander and going to command zone! So Vadrok can come back down and her next host will already be fully equipped and ready to go :)

Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  ^Flip really should go in, yeah. But Looter il-Kor will go in first, since that can also give unblockability to my commander in a pinch.

Thank you for your thoughts, as always! I'm always happy to see a comment from you.

Update -- this hurts me to say, but I'm adding Izzet Boilerworks in (at least to test). It helps me raise cards in hand for looting, and I find myself doing janky combos with Snap/Frantic Search a LOT -- the double mana without life loss is a surprisingly big deal when every mana matters. Even if it slows down my early tempo a little, unfortunately.

Daedalus19876

At first glance this seems to be a pretty bad thing for the deck. You have a lot of things that should be set up in the early game including getting Vadrok out as early as turn 2, which can be huge in the tron aspect of the deck. I understand about the looting bit and some synergy, but i'm leaning more toward that that addition will slow down the deck a lot, something it doesn't really want to do especially in the early game. However, that's my 2 cents so take my opinion w/ a grain of salt.

Also, maybe consider Guttersnipe for the crazy amount of noncreature spells you'll be casting? On the higher end of the curve which is rough but worked decent for me when I playtested this deck with my playgroup

Whirlwind_2100: As the deck evolves, the Voltron is becoming more of a finisher for a control/combo deck rather than the central focus. The Boilerworks change is only a tentative thing, so we'll see if it's any good or not. But unlike most Voltron decks, I don't really care about getting my commander out on turn two -- I want to have 1) a good host on battlefield without summoning sickness, and 2) at least something decent castable from GY. This means that my commander usually comes out on curve -- the best hands tend to be T2 looting spell, T3 host, T4 Vadrok. We'll see if Boilerworks does anything good :)

I see your comments on restricting the colors. That's fair. I do like Pollywog Symbiote as a mutate enabler. It's let me mutate Vadrok on turn 3, discarding a card via looting that I then immediately cast with Vadrok.

I feel like the biggest things missed by giving up white are 3 more 3 mana mutates in Vulpikeet, Huntmaster Liger, and Regal Leosaur, and the sillyness that is using Vadrok to cast Sevinne's Reclamation from the graveyard for it's copy trigger but without exiling it.

Good luck and have fun!

Brefin: Pollywog Symbiote was definitely something I was considering as well :) it's just hard to find cuts, ya know?

Sevinne's Reclamation is definitely a tempting card... sigh I just really, really want to stay in 2 colors, and adding cards from a third will open a door.

I'm curious what your feelings would be on cuts here!

In the quick summary, I don't like Surrakar Spellblade. No innate evasion or protection, and casting the spells only lets it draw more spells, doesn't make bigger. Keeping with legends to mutate upon to there's Thada Adel, Acquisitor. Or the Pollywog Symbiote to give access to more looting and

Is True-Name Nemesis bad to add.

Brefin: I've been finding that there's two kinds of mutations -- the ones that help Vadrok, and the ones that Vadrok helps.

Surrakar Spellblade, Cephalid Constable, and Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion are all in the second category, because they benefit from Vadrok's inherent evasion to become threatening, despite their low power.

I'm happy to work with a smaller commander who draws me 3+ cards per turn -- in that case, I lean towards a combo victory, using the constant stream of card draw to throw out answers for opponents' threats. Plus, it keeps the deck from getting into the monotonous rut of "big commander, swing" -- the deck plays completely differently depending on whether the first host for Vadrok is Surrakar Spellblade or Markov Blademaster, for example.

Pollywog Symbiote is definitely a thing I want to add, though. Thada Adel, Acquisitor isn't a bad idea either. Hrm. Too many lines, too little time.

sam171z: It's not BAD, but it's not amazing either. Basically, it gives you extremely strong protection against one player, but leaves Vadrok vulnerable to the other players and without a power boost.

Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin seems a good mutate target; it grows larger while giving you an army.

DankMagicianD: Hm, not a bad idea :) but I can't really profit off the tokens except as chump blockers...

Love this deck, like some other comments I have seen I also saw Vadrock as a lower power commander, but I LOVE THIS! BTW how does my username look to you? Having some trouble with re-naming

DankMagicianD: I added Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin and you were absolutely right. Thank you for the suggestion, it's made things so much better.

oawesme: I'm so glad that I could pleasantly surprise you with Vadrok's power! :D She's surprisingly powerful -- I honestly expected her to be more of a joke deck, but she's actually quite menacing. If this deck interests or has inspired you, you're welcome to leave a +1 ;)

And your name looks blue and normal to me: "oawesme".

You already got Rhystic, might as well add Smothering Tithe too. Generous Gift is so flexible and could be very useful if cast multiple times.

shwanerz88: Thank you for the comment; however, as I said in the Advertise Your Deck thread, I am not interested in adding any more white cards at this time. This deck is specifically built to be Izzet colors only.

I'd love to hear any other thoughts you have, and you're welcome to leave a +1 if you like it :)

I'm slowly working on building the primer here -- anyone want to give thoughts on the organization and balance of clarity with detail so far?

I really like it so far because of how detailed it is, it really explains the card choices and is fun to read.

Daedalus19876 I appreciate the addition of the budget section! As suggested, I'm going to look into Consecrated Sphinx. Thoughts on the following critters for mutations? Pristine Skywise, Tectonic Giant, Treasonous Ogre, Taurean Mauler, Aquamoeba, Zetalpa, Primal Dawn?

Paeldroth: Thanks! Glad I could help with the budget section.

Of those creatures, the only one I'd potentially run is Tectonic Giant. The issue is that you want low-CMC, or a bit more... punch than something like Aquamoeba grants. Also, Taurean Mauler is a human, so it can't be mutated onto :(

Some other creatures I've tinkered with: Wake Thrasher, Cephalid Inkshrouder, Dragonlord Ojutai, Adanto Vanguard...

Oh snap. You're right about Taurean Mauler. That sucks. I like Aquamoeba in general because it's a free, low-cmc discard outlet. But I suppose Cephalid Inkshrouder achieves that as well!

Paeldroth: Yeah, Cephalid Inkshrouder is free discard while also giving decent protection/evasion abilities.